From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 4:52 pm Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri [non TD] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' Kent 'Timescape' said: >Hi all you lucky people >who seemed to have a nice time at the Alpha Cenrauri festival. > >I was wondering; >How many people attended the Alpha Centauri this year? Dunno, seemed to be (almost) sold out. >How was it compared to KLEM? Better. But that´s IMO as I didn´t stay the whole weekend in Holland during the KLEMdag. Speaking of the KLEMdag: It´s history. Kent, you were at the very last KLEMdag ever. The new event is called 'E-Live' and seems to be a profit orientated event, as Groove Unlimited is respondable for it. Compared to the line-up of the Alfa Centauri festival the current line-up of 'E-Live' is quite disappointing. Let´s hope that Kees will present a good main act and a newcomer as it was the case at the KLEMdag. Kind Regards Jens PS: Kent, Is your *excellent* CD-R finally available ? Arse into gear, that man ! ;-) I just don´t like to play tapes ;-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12252 Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' Sean Montgomery Tue 3/24/1998 4 KB 12258 Re: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 5 KB 12253 TD Homepage Updated! Sean Montgomery Tue 3/24/1998 3 KB 12254 Re: TD Homepage Updated! feldon@p... Tue 3/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 5:49 pm Subject: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery This comes from the TD Webpage: ------------------------------- Other story: It has cost us a lot of time and energy to finally get THE KEEP Soundtrack on to our Studio consoles for final release preparation. The official release is planned by Virgin in March 98. Some 150 special edition copies have been made available during our recent UK tour. Some Fans who got one of these copies believe they've seen an earlier official release back in the Eighties and start complaining about the unsimilarity of the two records. Hold on you hardcore fans- we know that you species always have known where we have to go to, what we have to do, and finally who really has the ultimate right to justify what's good or bad for the band to do. But be sure diehard fans, the original Soundtrack of THE KEEP has never seen the light of a day before. What you guys are talking about is a bootleg, containing some material from a German radio feature and some music copied directly from The Keep-Video, which has been commercially released years ago. We found it rather annoying to defend ourself against such silly reproaches by some fans who- with some research- should know better. By the way: will you really believe what's been printed on a bootleg or what producers of such boots will sell you as a true story? Lots of boots we saw contained senseless infos- but that's the nature of boots, isn't it? What you finally like or dislike musically is absolutely your choice, but please don't explain us the difference between fiction and reality, O.K., never mind. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12258 Re: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 5:40 pm Subject: TD Homepage Updated! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery Those of you with web access might want to check out the TD Homepage today. It includes info about the release of Luminous Visions, plus a new article written by Jerome and Edgar called 'Focus the Facts', where they respond to a some of the more frequently-voiced criticisms the band receives. The TDI International page, however, is still under construction. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12254 Re: TD Homepage Updated! feldon@p... Tue 3/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 7:17 pm Subject: Re: TD Homepage Updated! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... Reprinted without permission from the tadream website (Edgar, Jerome, Stefan, please be gentle): So within the next year, we hope to collect our own catalogoue with over 25 releases which will include older TD material, cuts from live concerts on various places, a selection from so far unreleased Soundtrack music, and of course some surprises a few of you will definitely be happy to put their hands on. We will let you know through this Website how and when you can make your first orders directly here, or through which Distribution companies these products will reach the dealers' slots near you. Among the first official releases you will definitely find TimeSquare/Dream Mixes II, Ambient Monkeys, Transsiberia Soundtrack, Quinoa- the original Fan Club CD now in full length, Dream Encores -containing most TD concert encores of various decades- just to name a few. Also on a TDI special section, we will feature artists TD has produced and will also support their first releases. So watch this site for more details, coming soon. -Edgar and Jerome Froese feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 9:50 pm Subject: Here's an idea... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dave Lane' Go into your mailer and tell it to STOP sending HTML. For example, Netscape users: go to Edit Preferences Mail & Groups Messages UNCHECK the By Default, send HTML messages That way, people with ordinary text mailers can read your messages. Thank you. We now return you to the 'Presets' discussion, already in progress. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12267 Re: Here's an idea... Vic Rek Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 11:05 pm Subject: RE: Alpha Centauri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Jens said: > Hi Lawry :-) > It's a pity that we were talking only briefly. Were you at the last > KLEMdag too ? and... Yes, it was a shame we only talked briefly. I felt that the whole thing was a big rush for me, I was only in the Netherlands for a total of about 32 hours, and 12 of those were spent at the festival. Also, the festival itself had only small breaks between acts and I wanted to see everything, so I wasn't chatting for long. I did manage to have a slightly longer chat with Marcel though. And no, I wasn't at KLEMdag. > Lawry, where did you stay ? We were at the Tulipp Inn in Naarden. > Was lot of fun to have such an international EM artist/fangroup at > one place. It was really amazing to meet them all ! Maybe next year, with a bit more planning, we could all meet up for night on the town too. I only actually stayed for 1 night in a hotel in Amsterdam... the next night I spent loitering around the airport waiting for my flight home. I think I'll drive next year. Save some money and spend more time in Holland. I did manage to say hi to Paul Nagle and Mark Shreeve. Both of their gigs kicked ass too. I got Mark to sign my Ether album, even though he complained that it was sacriledge to write on the picture of the moog modular. :-) To repeat what I said on my last AC post, the whole day was fantastic if a bit rushed. There's a thought... ATTN:Eric Snelders... how about making it a two day affair next year?? Double the acts... (there are plenty out there worthy of a spot...) and maybe let Paul Nagle stay on for longer! (Your set seemed to fly Paul... I'd rather have watched another half hour of you than watch Alquimia). Anyway... again, further comments to follow, (unless people object), Just as soon as I catch up with my e-mail. Lawry Ps - Another thought.... I think it would have been great if there had been a place that people could have a jam together. I would have loved to have a jam with Marcel and Jens. Maybe we could have borrowed Mark's Moog Modular! :-))) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 11:57 pm Subject: Re: Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > Morgan writes: > > Son, you are in a VERY small minority of Tangerine Dream fans. 90% of us > LOVE the soundtracks they have done and we recognize the compositional > qualities of their 1973-1986 music that are lacking in their 1987-1995 > stuff. Say what you want, but you are pretty much alone in your thinking. > > Personally I hate all their music, just wish I could stop listening to > it....David Uh, so why do you even stay on this list? Gabe Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12272 Re: Presets feldon@p... Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 12:10 am Subject: Re: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > > This comes from the TD Webpage: > ------------------------------- > > > Other story: It has cost us a lot of time and energy to finally get THE > KEEP Soundtrack on to our Studio consoles for final release preparation. > The official release is planned by Virgin in March 98. Some 150 special > edition copies have been made available during our recent UK tour. Some > Fans who got one of these copies believe they've seen an earlier official > release back in the Eighties and start complaining about the unsimilarity > of the two records. Hold on you hardcore fans- we know that you species Whoa, now it sounds like Eddie is confused. What *I* know, so far from this list, is that THE BOOT and THE OFFICIAL VERSION are dissimilar. (Most of us still know nothing about the alleged '80s LP release). The fact is, most of what is on the boot IS IN THE MOVIE (or some cuts of it, anyway), while this is NOT true of the official version (even if it may have been at one time). This implies that the music that made it to the boot is a) the Keep soundtrack, Mk. II, NOT the music the band originally worked on for the movie. (Which makes Jim Moore's theory plausible...) b) in fact, mostly NOT by TD. Not the original soundtrack, and nothing they did, either (with some exceptions). This further implies that the official release a) is a near-total fake b) the original version of the soundtrack, that was for some reason rejected at the 11th hour c) the best of a shitload of music done for The Keep (at least in TD's view). None of this changes the fact that a version of the movie actually featuring a whole lot of the 'official' music is known. Which furthers my own suspicion that 'The Keep' is allegory for the activities of the Trilateral Commission. ;) > always have known where we have to go to, what we have to do, and finally > who really has the ultimate right to justify what's good or bad for the > band to do. But be sure diehard fans, the original Soundtrack of THE KEEP > has never seen the light of a day before. > > What you guys are talking about is a bootleg, containing some material > from a German radio feature and some music copied directly from The > Keep-Video, which has been commercially released years ago. We found it > rather annoying to defend ourself against such silly reproaches by some > fans who- with some research- should know better. By the way: will you I hate to point it out, but there are at least 3 versions of a Keep album (official or not) 1) the usual boot 2) the 'Complete Works of the Keep' 3) the official version and 4) the putative '84 LP. Which one does Ed mean? We, here, are quite clear on the differences, it seems to me. > really believe what's been printed on a bootleg or what producers of such > boots will sell you as a true story? Lots of boots we saw contained If you are legally prevented from telling us the real story, yes. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 1:07 am Subject: Re: Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-24 19:01:01 EST, you write: << Uh, so why do you even stay on this list? Gabe >> I was being facetious, Gabe. You know, kidding? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12263 Re: Presets AOutland Wed 3/25/1998 2 KB 12266 Re: Presets Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12268 Re: Presets Vic Rek Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12375 Re: Presets AOutland Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 1:57 am Subject: Edgar's Anger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Judging from the latest post on the Website, it sounds like Edgar is just a bit angry. Although someone already posted an excerpt about 'The Keep', I found the rest of the post quite interesting. I wonder if they actually visited Lenny in 'Boisytown'. Just a cup of coffee, huh? I wish I could be an under appreciated millionaire...Somebody call a WAmbulance....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 2:03 am Subject: More Edgar Posts ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Edgar writes: Very few times we're somehow frustrated and angry by being hit with stupid messages which may have left a drugfilled scatterbrain at 5am, just to block up our faxmachine with paperwaste. Hmm....Steve? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 2:24 am Subject: Old Or New Quinoa? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >Really-From: feldon@p... > > >Reprinted without permission from the tadream website (Edgar, Jerome, >Stefan, please be gentle): >Among the first official releases you will definitely find TimeSquare/Dream >Mixes II, Ambient Monkeys, Transsiberia Soundtrack, Quinoa- the original >Fan Club CD now in full length Will this 'Quinoa in full length' be a new CD or old ones in their inventory? Who knows more? Jeffrey Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12273 Re: Old Or New Quinoa? feldon@p... Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 3:09 am Subject: Re: Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-24 19:01:01 EST, you write: << > Personally I hate all their music, just wish I could stop listening to > it....David Uh, so why do you even stay on this list? Gabe >> Gabe: he was just joking, get it? he can't stop listening to their music. LOL Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12266 Re: Presets Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Message-Id: <199803241622.KAA21590@c...> >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: The Keep - (oh yes... yet again!) >Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:07:50 -0000 >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > >Why does everyone on this list feel inclined to persecute >Steve Feldman because of his quest? Envy. Pure envy. Folks resent the fact that I am not hinging my 'faith' in the existence of the album on *belief*, but *certitude*. >[. . .] Why take the piss instead of helping out? Now *that's* something I can agree with. *I'm* willing to go the extra mile and put my money where my mouth is: I'll pay $200 for a good tape recording, DAT or CD-R of the album along with color reproductions of the front and back covers and spine of the LP. >Message-Id: <199803241759.LAA24057@c...> >Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:49:56 -0800 (PST) >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >This comes from the TD Webpage: >------------------------------- > >Other story: It has cost us a lot of time and energy to finally get THE >KEEP Soundtrack on to our Studio consoles for final release preparation. >The official release is planned by Virgin in March 98. Some 150 special >edition copies have been made available during our recent UK tour. [...] Interesting. I thought there were 300. >[. . .] Some Fans who got one of these copies believe they've seen an >earlier official release back in the Eighties and start complaining >about the unsimilarity of the two records. [. . .] Nice try. I (and others) saw an *unofficial* release by a big- name record company who jumped the gun before the rights agreements were ironed out. >[. . .] be sure diehard fans, the original Soundtrack of THE KEEP >has never seen the light of a day before. Clarification: the *official* release of the original Soundtrack of THE KEEP *had* never seen the light of a day before until the limited edition TDI version. >What you guys are talking about is a bootleg, containing some material >from a German radio feature and some music copied directly from The >Keep-Video, which has been commercially released years ago. We found it >rather annoying to defend ourself against such silly reproaches by some >fans who- with some research- should know better. [. . .] This refers to the CD-R boot, THE COMPLETE WORKS OF THE KEEP, of which only about 15-40 copies were made. Even this featured music that was not from the German radio feature nor the video. The more common KEEP boot, of which about 300+ were pressed, has even more non-video music from the film (or a TD recording session, as the case may be). >[. . .] please don't explain us the difference between fiction and >reality, O.K. [. . .] Oops; you're absolutely right: Tangerine Dream outsells U2 five to one on any given day. Ho ho. >Message-Id: <199803250011.SAA03148@c...> >Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:10:57 -0500 (EST) >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Sender: tadream@c... >Subject: Re: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > >Whoa, now it sounds like Eddie is confused. [. . .] >This further implies that the official release >b) the original version of the soundtrack, that was for some reason > rejected at the 11th hour This seems to be the case. >None of this changes the fact that a version of the movie actually >featuring a whole lot of the 'official' music is known. Huh?!? > >I hate to point it out, but there are at least 3 versions of a Keep album >(official or not) > >1) the usual boot >2) the 'Complete Works of the Keep' >3) the official version > >and >4) the putative '84 LP. >> really believe what's been printed on a bootleg or what producers of >> such boots will sell you as a true story? Lots of boots we saw >> contained [. . .] > >If you are legally prevented from telling us the real story, yes. Glad you said it, rather than me. ;) >Message-Id: <199803250205.UAA06007@c...> >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:03:06 EST >Subject: More Edgar Posts >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >Edgar writes: > >Very few times we're somehow frustrated and angry by being hit with >stupid messages which may have left a drugfilled scatterbrain at 5am, >just to block up our faxmachine with paperwaste. > >Hmm....Steve? Oh brother. X-0 We'll see who has the last laugh with this 'There's no such thing as a 1984 KEEP soundtrack album' business, I can assure you of that. 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ID Date Size 12265 Video Dream Mixes Sean Montgomery Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12275 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible Vic Rek Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12278 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible Jeffrey Au-Yeung Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12279 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 4 KB 12286 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible DJS Wed 3/25/1998 4 KB 12294 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible Michael Fox Wed 3/25/1998 2 KB 12311 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12332 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible Marcel Engels Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12333 Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible DJS Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 3:32 am Subject: Video Dream Mixes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery A copy of the Video Dream Mixes just landed at HMV in Toronto this week, retailing for the low, low price of $47 Canadian (which equals $33 U.S.). I gave it a pass... SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 3:52 am Subject: Re: Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: AOutland > > > Gabe: he was just joking, get it? he can't stop listening to their music. > LOL Dell I guess I wasn't in a very joking mood at the time. Haven't you ever gotten something in your head that you detested, yet you couldn't stop listening to it, because that was the only way you felt you could get it out? Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 4:47 am Subject: Re: Here's an idea... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: 'Dave Lane' > >Go into your mailer and tell it to STOP sending HTML. WHY should I ever have to worry about this??? How would HTML better help me read my message (without tempting me to click on a link)? I just want to read my mail. Stay away from Microsoft and Netscape. Eudora really undersands what the user wants! In a practical sense, the best package you can 'live' with. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 4:47 am Subject: Re: Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Gabe Yedid >> Really-From: DAVENTURA >> Son, you are in a VERY small minority of Tangerine Dream fans. 90% of us >> LOVE the soundtracks they have done and we recognize the compositional >> qualities of their 1973-1986 music that are lacking in their 1987-1995 >> stuff. Say what you want, but you are pretty much alone in your thinking. >> >> Personally I hate all their music, just wish I could stop listening to >> it....David > >Uh, so why do you even stay on this list? So Gabe, did you miss the point? Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 6:20 am Subject: TD CD's still available! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS I have the following still available if anyone wants them. LogosType Man Inside Collected Endings & a few others. Email me if you care. Dano (not Vincent Spano) (& yes I have the OST for Over The Edge...but you can't have it.....even though I KNOW you want it heh heh). Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12270 Re: TD CD's still available! Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/25/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 5:29 am Subject: Re: TD CD's still available! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > Dano (not Vincent Spano) (& yes I have the OST for Over The Edge...but ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the end is nigh E-Man np: Delerium, *Syrophenikan* From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 6:23 am Subject: TD Humor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA While I hope I haven't offended anyone on the list with my dark sense of humor, I must publicly apologize to Mr. Feldman for....aww forget it....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 6:50 am Subject: Re: Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > >> Really-From: DAVENTURA >> >> >> Morgan writes: >> >>> Son, you are in a VERY small minority of Tangerine Dream fans. 90% of us >>> LOVE the soundtracks they have done and we recognize the compositional >>> qualities of their 1973-1986 music that are lacking in their 1987-1995 >>> stuff. Say what you want, but you are pretty much alone in your thinking. >> >> Personally I hate all their music, just wish I could stop listening to >> it....David > >Uh, so why do you even stay on this list? I think he's making a poor attempt at sarcasm... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 6:53 am Subject: Re: Old Or New Quinoa? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:24 AM 3/25/98 +0800, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' > >>Really-From: feldon@p... >> >> >>Reprinted without permission from the tadream website (Edgar, Jerome, >>Stefan, please be gentle): >>Among the first official releases you will definitely find TimeSquare/Dream >>Mixes II, Ambient Monkeys, Transsiberia Soundtrack, Quinoa- the original >>Fan Club CD now in full length > >Will this 'Quinoa in full length' be a new CD or old ones in their >inventory? Who knows more? My interpretation: At the very least, a repress, as they have sold all their old ones. At the most, a new extended version... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 2:02 pm Subject: Dolby Surround ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rainer Rutka Just a question to the list-members: Does anybody of you know witch TD-CD is dolby-surround-mastered (the prologic - system) ? If there is any one ?! Rainer rainer@k... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12277 Re: Dolby Surround feldon@p... Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 1:40 pm Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: Steven Feldman > Now *that's* something I can agree with. *I'm* willing to go the > extra mile and put my money where my mouth is: I'll pay $200 for a good > tape recording, DAT or CD-R of the album along with color reproductions > of the front and back covers and spine of the LP. So are you trying to suggest that this LP exists? ;-) I just love to read those optimistic posts once in a while about the guy at the bar that had a copy, the music store owner who recalls selling one, the soundtrack collector who had one but gave it to a friend, etc.. BTW, Do you have the Asian release of The Keep laserdisc? It has a different cover, maybe even a different ending.. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 2:33 pm Subject: RE: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> really believe what's been printed on a bootleg or what producers of such >> boots will sell you as a true story? Lots of boots we saw contained >If you are legally prevented from telling us the real story, yes. While I don't want to comment on the existance of a Keep LP, I must say that in the course of my research for my book, I've noticed several occasions where the official line differs from what really happened. Sometimes this seems to have been unintentional (like Jerome giving the wrong date for the Dresden show on ElectroBeats) or deliberate (LiveMiles). Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12287 Re: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' Francisco Salgado C. Wed 3/25/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 3:02 pm Subject: Re: Dolby Surround ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 02:02 PM 3/25/98 -0100, you wrote: >Really-From: Rainer Rutka > >Just a question to the list-members: > >Does anybody of you know witch TD-CD is dolby-surround-mastered >(the prologic - system) ? > >If there is any one ?! I truly doubt there are, as this would require mastering to 5 different channels of sound and then encoding this into 2 channels. The closest they came to this was Destination Berlin. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 3:58 pm Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >Really-From: Vic Rek > >BTW, Do you have the Asian release of The Keep laserdisc? It has a >different cover, maybe even a different ending.. > >Vic > Vic, From what I recall from the Japanese laserdisc, the ending is the same as the US disc, since I have both in my collection. Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 4:18 pm Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > >On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > > > >Whoa, now it sounds like Eddie is confused. [. . .] > >This further implies that the official release > >b) the original version of the soundtrack, that was for some reason > > rejected at the 11th hour > > This seems to be the case. My, you agree? ;) So you think that the official release might actually have some 'authenticity' to it then? I have my doubts. Personally, I think that the cuts that appeared as 'Romanian Road' and 'Fisherman's Morning', (which on the official release under different titles, right?) are *HIGHLY* atypical for TD of that period. They may have been interesting experiments for that time, yes, but I think they are more likely doctored. > >None of this changes the fact that a version of the movie actually > >featuring a whole lot of the 'official' music is known. > > Huh?!? Come on, Steve, you were one of the first people to point out the lack of resemblance between the TDI release and music from any version of the movie you had seen! Then again, there are 9 rumoured cuts of this movie, so maybe *one* of them has some of the original music. > >> really believe what's been printed on a bootleg or what producers of > >> such boots will sell you as a true story? Lots of boots we saw > >> contained [. . .] > > > >If you are legally prevented from telling us the real story, yes. > > Glad you said it, rather than me. ;) Would you have at all? ;) Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 4:30 pm Subject: Copy from update on TD Website ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1 For anyone who has trouble viewing websites, here's the latest section from TD's home page. After about a year and a half of the existence of this homepage and a six-figure entry scale, Jerome and myself thought about a little new department within the page to adress a few issues which seemed to need some clarification. It's not our desire to vote for or against our fan's opinion. The freedom of choice and opinion must and always will be a trademark of this homepage. We have never deleted your welcoming greetings in our guestbook - except very few ones which clearly where identified as statements of racism, blackmail, or had clear signatures of misunderstanding a guestbook as an open door chatroom. It's our attempt and effort to set a few records straight- cleaning some carpets and supporting the positive attitude and atmosphere of this homepage. Also, we'll take the chance to give our thankful respect to all of you making TD's music to a more or less atmospheric companion in your daily life. To make the following statements a bit more organized, we'll set up blocks which deal with various issues out of some controversial aspects we've thought need to be clarified. Our statements here should not be misinterpreted as being a part of a TD chatroom or reflecting the pros and cons of certain aspects of public interests, nor should this section replace the FAQ section of the TD web site. What you read here are personal thoughts of the writers adressed to whom it may be concerned on the endless human patterns of opinions, lifestyles, social attitudes, religious or non-religious backgrounds, and finally the differences of consciousness out there. Thank you for taking the time to read this - it's personally written and impersonally sent. 1. The »boring« and the »genious« TD decades We are very often surprised how agressive some people argue against the newer TD releases and for the older ones. To make it absolutely clear, there is nothing wrong if someone dislikes the newer stuff. But there is a very simple and very effective solution to solve such »problems«: Just buy what you like! No one can or will force you to spend your sour earned money on something you feel uncomfortable with. So nobody except you is taking your creditcard out of your briefcase and handles it over to the cashier's desk. It's as simple as that, isn't it? But beyond such aspects there might be another psychological background which some of our fans aren't aware of. Isn't it common practice that people who turned older- relativetly saying- are always looking back in time instead of facing today's reality or even better, trying to build their own fiction about tomorow? Do those fans, grown up with TD's 70ies' and 80ies' material, look back to the maybe 'better times in life' they personally went through in such days? That might be one reason, but the newer experiences will not get more comfortable by pressing them into the framework of yesterday- that's just a sentimental illusion. So it is also an illusion for an artist to stick with an artistic expression created 20 years ago- no matter how successful it was in public. We always have been very suspicious about those artists who 'always gave the people what they wanted.' A true artist has to follow other patterns and roads than those who just fulfill their fan's expectations. Artists who are just following 'the crowd's clapping syndrom' often find themselves waked up beyond the freaking loud curtain of glory in an icy and silent little chamber of desillusion. Why? Live is a risk! True art is born out of risk with a special view and attitude! Finally people love others who take such risk - a kind of risk, they themselves may be not able to deal with. That is the logical physio-chemical interference between all of us. Some call it 'success'- unfortunately some artists only can participate on a long run. 2. About a man who somedays hated arts and artists- reason enough to start writing about this issue Well, you're right, we'll talk a bit about our real loved ones. Let's start with a little line by the American novelist Susan Sontag - maybe after reading one of her book reviews, she wrote: Interpretation is the revenge of the intellect upon art... and to interpret is to impoverish! We would go even a bit further and ask: What interpretation can emphasize revenge if the intellect of the writer is on vacation in the Caribbean? So, who cares? Well, our loved ones should not be treated so hardly, haven't they've gotten through one of the most uncomfortable experiences in life, the lack of acknowledgement in their own efforts becoming a successful artist? When good old Sophocles had to realize that 'non love the messenger who brings bad news,' he might have seen a futuristic projection on the hills of Athens. May he have focussed on Uncle Ernie from a Chicago or London Journal, trying to save his philosophical integrity by killing the Rock Act XYZ or a theatre premiere on broadway with his lousy 400 bucks PC terminal? What a waste of time. We all can seriously imagine what state of mind a lonesome column writer is into, saving the few bucks for his 12 liner and trying to get away with a bit of a profile, which- after years- could give him some little glimpse of immortality within the Uncle Ernie community. Hey people out there, it's not only the artist who fails, right! And who are you, occupying the right of shooting down the artists with your pen nib like hunting animals out of the dark while sitting in a far away balcony? Are there any exceptions? Of course there are! We've met some hard writing species- and became friends, why? What rules did they follow? Did they play the greasy game: Oh, my Harley died last night, but I do love your new release so much, that I could imagine having a new Harley baby under my ass very soon, got the message? Oh, yes we got it Ernie, but you better borrow a rosty bike from your aunt. No, the true writers can buy themselves ten Harleys in a row if they like, because they are professionals and can affort it any time. And the serious newcomers? They will also, one day- if not prostituting themselves between the lines in a snobby sober wanna-bes' community. It is a significant signature of a good writer, to be able to separate the mediocrity in arts from those performances and activities who have the originality and impact of being part of the »timeless story«. To find out the edge which appears as a borderline between the two fields, that's what critics, reviews and statements are there for. We would modestly recommend what one of the older professionals in business said: If there is any real doubt whether or not an artist delivered a true work, it is better to vote for than against him; why? You as a writer always have a second chance to correct yourself, the artist, once killed by the medias, often hasn't. Let's close that little chapter with a statement from the American writer Karl Shapiro: The true artist sticks to his real loves, those within the realms of possibility. He never holds hands with the God born out of fearfull fantasies or the human race itself. He tries to follow some of the more universal patterns! 3. Wouldn't it be nice to put all halfway professional 'knobfreaks' in a little box and let 'em play the kiddy opera 'who gets the the most enjoyable hookline out of a typewriter while riding a rubber dinghy'? It's kind of a funny experience how often TD got artistically married to other colleagues in the business. Well folks, your advise made us really proud, specifically to be brought into the »neighbourhood« of some of the huge human samples of the synth-orient and occident. Sorry, but we can't help it; we don't have any heroes or ideals we would like to follow or to »jam in a session together with«, seriously, it's not meant to be arrogant. Musicians out of the synth league, if they see each other in hotel lobbies or within airport lounges, definitely don't talk about random oscillators or sequencer programs or possible recording sessions. For sure they talk about the possibility of being ripped off by their record companies, that's something we all have in common. You see, we don't have to test each other about knowing the difference between a screwdriver and a joystick. Other story, same issue: what we've read in our guestbook a few month ago, made us just a bit thoughtful. It was the harsh kind of statements by some fans for or against other artists in comparison to TD. It doesn't matter if we personally like, love or dislike other colleague's work, what counts is the fact that neither Jerome nor myself would ever name and critisize a colleague in public or say something respectless about a person who hasn't any chance to defend himself. That is pure blackmail and is not part of our behaviour. Apart from that, we would like to point to earlier statements we've made as far as musical integrity in general is concerned- on this level every musician has the same rights to offer his work to the public. As we all know, the public has the freedom of choice and will judge and vote by following the artist or not. All other comments are a pure waste of time- so please respect a few rules, which are hopefully left between intelligent humans. Thanks. 4. Every question from your side will be recognized We care about what you think is important to know as far as TD activities, present and past, are concerned - BUT ... take a few minutes to consider the following: Lenny wrote: Why on your way to Tokyo you didn't stop in my hometown Boisy here in Idaho, and come in for a drink- we all love your music. (Really? Hey, cool Lenny in Boisytown, make us a strong cup of coffee, we come right into your homekitchen on our way back from Sydney!) Allison wrote: My daughter Nelly is a bit upset, you've forgotten her birthday. (Sorry, Nellybaby). As you may know Nelly is my two-year-old toddler and has collected all 57 records released by TD. (What galaxy Hypernelly comes from?) We just realized that for her needs, we don't need diapers twice a day anymore since she heard Rubycon as a Tapeloop all night long. (For irregular intestine phenomena please see your ...) Karen wrote: Having overcome our midlife crisis, our sexlife became very interesting after my husband brought your records into the house. Now we're kind of honeymooning all the time, from noon to midnight ... (Wait, what are you doing in the morning hours? Why taking such a useless break, listen to Electronic Meditation, the ultimate aphroadisiac for all couples beyond their seventies!) ... etc. Hey folks, we do have a very good developed sense of humor, as we hope you have as well. So lots of mail, e-mail, faxes, phone calls and various other messages have made us laugh, made us sometimes very thoughtful, a few times we've been irritated by not knowing who the writer wants to talk to in context to an issue we aren't familiar with. Very few times we're somehow frustrated and angry by being hit with stupid messages which may have left a drugfilled scatterbrain at 5am, just to block up our faxmachine with paperwaste. So if you send us any message, do not wait for an answer back within 24 hours. Do not think that here in our main Berlin Office there are sitting just some arrogant ignorants who don't care about the fans- that's not the case. But these people have to make decisions wether or not somebody is approaching us seriously or was just fooling around with his wordprocessor. 5. Why some records have been released at certain times - others have not been released at all - where did some release confusions came from? First of all: nearly every musician on this planet has neccesarely to deal with companies in order to make his work known to the public, so far- so bad. If you're young in the business you often sign up longtime contracts which are far beyond any point of fairness against the artist. Every musician, around for some time, went through such an experience in his career- no matter if they are now superstars or all-time loosers. Also TD is no exception from this rule, which by the way puts a few record companies in a very strange position. But that's nothing to be carried out to the public right now. Fact is, that some records from the earlier years have not or just poorly been released, i.e. in the US and elsewhere. Record company's decision. A few Soundtracks have been released by third parties who claim the right to do so- the music on this releases is, to our production standard, absolutely unacceptable. So, with other words: from time to time there will be decisions made by former business partners, which are or seem to be complete nonsense or kind of an disadvantage for the music itself - now you may know why such things can happen. Other story: It has cost us a lot of time and energy to finally get THE KEEP Soundtrack on to our Studio consoles for final release preparation. The official release is planned by Virgin in March 98. Some 150 special edition copies have been made available during our recent UK tour. Some Fans who got one of these copies believe they've seen an earlier official release back in the Eighties and start complaining about the unsimilarity of the two records. Hold on you hardcore fans- we know that you species always have known where we have to go to, what we have to do, and finally who really has the ultimate right to justify what's good or bad for the band to do. But be sure diehard fans, the original Soundtrack of THE KEEP has never seen the light of a day before. What you guys are talking about is a bootleg, containing some material from a German radio feature and some music copied directly from The Keep-Video, which has been commercially released years ago. We found it rather enoying to defend ourself against such silly reproaches by some fans who- with some research- should know better. By the way: will you really believe what's been printed on a bootleg or what producers of such boots will sell you as a true story? Lots of boots we saw contained senseless infos- but that's the nature of boots, isn't it? What you finally like or dislike musically is absolutely your choice, but please don't explain us the difference between fiction and reality, O.K., never mind. 6. What is the result of being frustrated with record companies? You got it, of course we're working hard on our own label. Right now we don't have a huge operation with hundreds of employees behind us, but things are getting better every day. So within the next year, we hope to collect our own catalogoue with over 25 releases which will include older TD material, cuts from live concerts on various places, a selection from so far unreleased Soundtrack music, and of course some surprises a few of you will definitely be happy to put their hands on. We will let you know through this Website how and when you can make your first orders directly here, or through which Distribution companies these products will reach the dealers' slots near you. Among the first official releases you will definitely find TimeSquare/Dream Mixes II, Ambient Monkeys, Transsiberia Soundtrack, Quinoa- the original Fan Club CD now in full length, Dream Encores -containing most TD concert encores of various decades- just to name a few. Also on a TDI special section, we will feature artists TD has produced and will also support their first releases. So watch this site for more details, coming soon. Discography | Interviews | Picture Gallery | Questions & Answers | Focus the Facts | Global Critics | Guestbook What's On? | Biography | Sheet Music | Movie Corner | Winner's Page | Colleagues & Guests | TDI International Copyright © Tadream Production® and TDI music®Brought to you by Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12284 Re: Copy from update on TD Website Plumer, Scott Wed 3/25/1998 2 KB 12290 Re: Copy from update on TD Website Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12306 Re: Copy from update on TD Website David Datta Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12329 Re: Copy from update on TD Website Vic Rek Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: (Date Unavailable) Subject: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'TORONTO.TOR1':KEarley_at_GW-TOR1@r... Date: 03/25/1998 12:36 pm (Wednesday) From: Kevin EARLEY To: ccMail:'tadream@c... at INTERNET' Subject: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translation, or lack of decent editing, because th I really hope that it is a poor German to English translation, or lack of decent editing, because the writing in the Focus the Facts section of the TD Page reads like the confused ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic. Those of you who are interested in conspiracy theories and Kooks in general, will know what I mean. Kevin Earley kearley@r... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12282 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Jens Peschke Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12285 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12289 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Jens Peschke Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12299 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12297 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Marcel Engels Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12300 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Jens Peschke Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12313 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12330 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Gabe Yedid Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12328 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Andrew J. Rozsa Thu 3/26/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 6:32 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'TORONTO.TOR1':KEarley_at_GW-TOR1@r... > >I really hope that it is a poor German to English translation, or lack of >decent editing, because the writing in the Focus the Facts section of the >TD Page reads like the confused ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic. I know a few of his statements he gave in the German language. Based on that I´m sure it´s translated correctly. I wouldn´t call it 'paranoid schizophrenic', though. ;-) What I actually thought about the mentioned text is that Edgar is an **** . Reminds me a bit on Wagner who was a great musician/composer but as a person... (you know what I mean). Regards Jens PS: As noone seems to be interested in non-td reviews (AC or bloody superb new acts in the TD vein) it´s better not to annoy you all with such stuff. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 6:43 pm Subject: edgar's rampage, can someone please interpret it for me?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> I'm finally getting a chance for a breath (and that only ;-) and I read edgar and jerome's rampage on the official website... now, can someone please interpret it for me ?? what the heck are 'rosty bikes' and 'harley baby under my ass very soon' supposed to mean? I'm more than a little confused... maybe it goes back to that thing they implied about not interpreting.... (which of course is a misunderstanding of the nature of communication...) then there's the 'snobby sober wanna-bes community' -- are they speaking here of LA/CF?? are 'knobfreaks' gearheads or are they journalists? and what is 'kiddy opera'?? and WHO is 'uncle ernie'? is this a reference to the pedophile from the the Who's rock opera 'Tommy'?? ('I'm your wicked uncle ernie / and you won't hear or see me / while I fiddle about, fiddle about') is He a nerd regent? and what's this about a 'drugfilled scatterbrain at 5am,' does anyone else see any irony here? (in case you're not clear, I'm comparing the 'coherency' [ironic use of quotations] of their statement with the non-sensical fan comments to which they seem to be responding) and whose 'loves' are they talking about? their family or their music? are they speaking to anyone in particular? does anyone really understand this? oh lord the explicatory amusement one could have with this... can someone please tell me where all this criticism is coming from? the press (I've seen nothing but good); the website guest book (I don't have the time to read it); this ML?? and just why do they feel the need to reply so vehemently against fan-critics? especially when opinion is always on there side in fan circles... this just makes it look like they are turning on those of a lower stature... it also sounds like there is a translation problem here... still this just comes off like a not-well thought out shotgun rant against some unnamed critics and some fans who've left entries in the guestbook. if you're going to have a rant on your own home page, at least make it a coherent, well-thought out and accurate rant... otherwise be ready for the criticism (and this ain't it... yet) please help! lars (my own rant) ps I've been forced into digest mode since i don't have time to delete all those excess mails... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12291 Re: edgar's rampage, can someone please interpret TWeibre361 Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12292 Re: edgar's rampage, can someone please interpret DAVENTURA Wed 3/25/1998 2 KB 12296 Re: edgar's rampage, can someone please interpret Sean Montgomery Wed 3/25/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 7:13 pm Subject: RE: Copy from update on TD Website ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >After about a year and a half of the existence of this homepage and a . . . >first releases. So watch this site for more details, coming soon. I hate myself for saying this, but two words went through my head as I read this: bitter a**holes. Maybe they shouldn't have stopped doing drugs in '73. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12290 Re: Copy from update on TD Website Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 7:04 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'TORONTO.TOR1':KEarley_at_GW-TOR1@r... > > > From: Kevin EARLEY > > I really hope that it is a poor German to English translation, or lack of > decent editing, because the writing in the Focus the Facts section of the > TD Page reads like the confused ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic. > Those of you who are interested in conspiracy theories and Kooks in > general, will know what I mean. > > Kevin Earley > kearley@r... > well, keep in mind that English is not Edgar's first language, so he probably thinks stuff out with German structure and then writes it down, pretty much directly translated. Then again, I have heard from some folks who have heard him on German radio that he pretty much rambles in German, too. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:15 pm Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Vic Rek > > > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > Now *that's* something I can agree with. *I'm* willing to go the > > extra mile and put my money where my mouth is: I'll pay $200 for a good > > tape recording, DAT or CD-R of the album along with color reproductions > > of the front and back covers and spine of the LP. > > So are you trying to suggest that this LP exists? ;-) I just love to > read those optimistic posts once in a while about the guy at the bar > that had a copy, the music store owner who recalls selling one, the > soundtrack collector who had one but gave it to a friend, etc.. > > BTW, Do you have the Asian release of The Keep laserdisc? It has a > different cover, maybe even a different ending.. > > Vic it does have a different ending...remember the one with Edgar fighting off the Nazi's with his Gibson les paul? Well, that's the one. Dano np: Green Ice (B. Wyman)...and Eli...admit it...you think Ryan O Neal is a sex god...yeehahahahahaha!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:14 pm Subject: Re: Edgar speaks about 'The Keep' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > This comes from the TD Webpage: > ------------------------------- > > Other story: It has cost us a lot of time and energy to finally get THE > KEEP Soundtrack on to our Studio consoles for final release preparation. > The official release is planned by Virgin in March 98. just one thing about this 'preparation': What kind of consoles gives digi-noise ( hear track 3, at 00'41' and 00'50')? This diginoise it typical of a DAT error cancellation algorithm. Given the high noise level and several artifacts appearing in this CD it seems this recording is a raw DAT copy from an analog tape ( probably not the master tape but a 1st or 2nd generation copy). Maybe they did DQC mastering but the spectrum analysis of the digital signal does not give the characteristic 16 kHz peak of a dithered signal... ooh! it seems is a standard 16 bit A/D conversion. Anyway, with that big noise it's useless to do a 20 bit A/D and then do the dither since the noise itself is big enough to do this effect by itself. Judging by the date ( February,1983 according to the credits in this special edition) this recording is in a much worse bad shape than tangram, White Eagle, Poland, Thief etc.; all from the same period. Anyway, I must say I love this CD!! The music is worth every penny. ---Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 7:34 pm Subject: Re: Mucilage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' I use adhesive stick to do it. It uses a water-soluble glue. Maybe it's the same you reefer. I don't undestand the term mucilage. My Longman dictionary says: mu-ci·lage/n [U] any of various kinds of sticky liquid obtained from plants and used esp. as GLUE. So it's basically the same info as in your message. ---francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 7:34 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid >Then again, I have heard from some folks who have heard him on German radio > that he pretty much rambles in German, too. Quite. On a German video interview I saw recently, he was rambling and confused. To my surprise he even didn´t answer the questions properly. Odd Ed. Jens Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12299 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Gabe Yedid Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 7:45 pm Subject: RE: Copy from update on TD Website ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > I hate myself for saying this, but two words went through my > head > as I read this: bitter a**holes. Maybe they shouldn't have > stopped > doing drugs in '73. > I wonder how much of this bitterness is Jerome's, though. With any luck, he's not letting his father's attitudes go to his head too much. Hopefully, he will realize that things like this only serve to ultimately alienate the band's fan base, and be a kinder, gentler TD frontman for it. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:05 pm Subject: Re: edgar's rampage, can someone please interpret it for me?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-25 13:46:44 EST, you write: << still this just comes off like a not-well thought out shotgun rant against some unnamed critics and some fans who've left entries in the guestbook. if you're going to have a rant on your own home page, at least make it a coherent, well-thought out and accurate rant... otherwise be ready for the criticism (and this ain't it... yet) please help! >> u want help? ignore the rambling...who gives a shit what they have to say....let the music speak for itself... tom w np: rootsman - 52 days to timbuktu From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:25 pm Subject: Re: edgar's rampage, can someone please interpret it for me?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << Ignore the rambling...who gives a shit what they have to say....let the music speak for itself... tom w >> That must explain why most of their albums have no lyrics...huh?....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:21 pm Subject: Daventura's Interpretation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Lars writes: << what the heck are 'rosty bikes' and 'Harley baby under my ass very soon' supposed to mean? I'm more than a little confused... >> I can only assume he meant 'rusty,' and the Harley baby would be a new bike. Harley Davidson, very well know motorcycle in America, if you're a Hell's Angel... Hope that helps....David n.p...Manuel Gottsching..E2-E4...Thanks Vic..Did you give this thing a listen? It's amazing, well maybe not amazing, but very enjoyable. I'm on a TD Boycott right now, until Edgar apologizes for calling me a drugfilled scatterbrain...hehe I guess we have a topic for next week, huh? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12303 Re: Daventura's Interpretation Vic Rek Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12304 Re: Daventura's Interpretation Jens Peschke Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12315 Re: Daventura's Interpretation Vic Rek Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12334 Re: Daventura's Interpretation DJS Thu 3/26/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 2:56 pm Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 10:03 PM 3/24/98 EST, you wrote: >> >>Why does everyone on this list feel inclined to persecute >>Steve Feldman because of his quest? > > Envy. Pure envy. In yer dreams, pal, in yer dreams! [snipped about 7.5KB of this] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:34 pm Subject: Luminous Vision Extra ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Did anyone notice that the track listing on the TD webpage contains an extra track? Might this only be on the DVD? (Spanish Love) MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:23 pm Subject: Re: edgar's rampage, can someone please interpret it for me?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery I refrained from commenting about the new TD Manifesto yesterday, feeling it would be prudent to consider my words for a while. Which is probably a good thing. My initial reaction was one of amusement. I found the overall tone of the piece to be condescending and hostile, and a few ripe comments came immediately to mind. But I held them in. Regretably, even with the perspective of another 24 hours, I find that I still take issue with the way the Froese boys are arguing their case. First of all, their choice of title (Tangerine Dream Focus the Facts) suggests that they alone have access to The Truth. Which of course is the case when it's your own webpage and can present whatever Truth you prefer. They then go on to pepper their manifesto with references to Great Works and Big Thinkers (Sophocles, Sontag), which to me looks like a way of positioning themselves as beings which exist on a higher plane, above the unwashed masses. Classic elitist ArtThink, if you ask me. You're right, Lars...it does come off as a rant against unnamed critics. On the one hand, they claim to welcome all opinions, but on the other hand belittle anyone with the audacity to disagree with *their* point of view, and actually mock the kinds of questions that some fans ask in the guestbook. They issue this diatriabe, and them shut off debate by making it clear that this is not 'part of a TD chatroom'. Again, this gets back to the 'Focus the Facts' title. *They* have the facts, and the rest of us are just confused and backward, living in the past. Yet, how do they account for their ongoing reverance for 60s rock music while poo-pooing other contemporary electronic musicians? I think they misinterpret the motivation of fans who criticize their recent work. They seem to see it as the mewling of heathens, the bourgeois who just don't understand True Art when they hear it. I prefer to see such criticism as the suggestions of fans who respect the band but are challenging them to do better. They say that art and life are about risk, but where was the risk in an album like Turn of the Tides? This kind of posturing rings hollow if you can't deliver the goods to back it up. It's no surprise that Dream Mixes has proven to be their most praised album of recent years, because it actually *is* different. While I appreciate that Edgar and Jerome are listening to their fans, I wish they'd choosen a bit more conciliatory approach than this to acknowledge it. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:42 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >well, keep in mind that English is not Edgar's first language, so he >probably thinks stuff out with German structure and then writes it down, >pretty much directly translated. Then again, I have heard from some >folks who have heard him on German radio that he pretty much rambles in >German, too. Ha, reminds me of some dutch actors (rutger hauer, verhoeven) who went to Hollywood and couldn't speak 'right' dutch again (nor can they speak 'right' american). But I'm also guilty on this: I'm also not that good at english. (I try, I try!) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:50 pm Subject: The Keep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mathew Hargreaves I find it interesting that a lot of people are getting mad at Edgar Froese for having posted some remarks about what constitutes an 'official' soundtrack score album for The Keep. Not counting the LP version - since no one lays claim to having it, the only official album to date is the one Virgin will finally be releasing. It will not have all of the music used in every version of The Keep, nor will it have all of the music that Tangerine Dream composed for the film. It will have the music that the band feels bests represents what they intended for the movie and the album. There may also be limitations on which music he has access to. This cannot be remedied easily so they have clearly taken the path of least resistance here. They are presenting to the buying public, for the first time, score music for the film from the materials they can present to us. At least Edgar and company are trying to release some of the music from the film. I am glad both as a collector and a long time fan of their music. The bootlegs may have compiled music that was thought to have been composed for the film, or heard in various versions of the movie. Just because the music was stated as being composed for the film by non-band people, does not make it so. Not all music used in movies was ever composed for that film specifically. A lot of films use recycled music from other films, and music by other composers who go uncredited but still supplied music to the film. And sometimes, the music played by the band (Tangerine Dream included) was not composed by them, but was played by them. And at other times some composers have supplied sound-alike music as filler for scenes, that may not have been supplied by TD, but the director felt worked better in the scene or was able to get quickly. In the end, The Keep soundtrack will be music that was composed and played by Tangerine Dream. Since they are finally releasing their version of the score album, I am looking forward to it. It is better than the music never seeing an official release at all. So how about stopping the crying about what you are not getting, and appreciate what you are finally being allowed to buy and enjoy. CHEERS...Matt Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12302 Re: The Keep Marcel Engels Wed 3/25/1998 3 KB 12317 Re: The Keep Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12319 Re: The Keep TWeibre361 Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12984 The Keep Glenn Reinicke Wed 4/15/1998 2 KB 14617 The Keep Jeff Stevenson Sun 6/14/1998 3 KB 16411 The Keep Shadow Fri 5/14/1999 1 KB 16435 Re: The Keep Steven Le Vine Sat 5/15/1999 2 KB 16444 Re: The Keep Stephen Kyle Sat 5/15/1999 3 KB 16450 Re: The Keep Shadow Sat 5/15/1999 1 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:57 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > > >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > >Then again, I have heard from some folks who have heard him on German radio > > that he pretty much rambles in German, too. > > Quite. On a German video interview I saw recently, > he was rambling and confused. > > To my surprise he even didn´t answer the questions properly. > > Odd Ed. > > Jens > Actually I think that's pretty serious. Are we seeing signs of early-onset artery-hardening/senility here? Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 9:05 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > >Quite. On a German video interview I saw recently, >he was rambling and confused. > >To my surprise he even didn´t answer the questions properly. Maybe he's getting real old now. Or he gets too much (of the same) questions from fans like us. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 9:35 pm Subject: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' I just stumbled on a site that uses a MIDI of Oldfield's Tubular Bells, and others. How legal is that? Couldn't they get in trouble? Does Oldfield have a site or email that I could report this to? Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12305 Re: Legality of MIDI files? DAVENTURA Wed 3/25/1998 2 KB 12314 Re: Legality of MIDI files? Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12320 Re: Legality of MIDI files? TWeibre361 Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12323 Re: Legality of MIDI files? TWeibre361 Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12325 Re: Legality of MIDI files? Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12331 Re: Legality of MIDI files? Greg Heil Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12338 Re: Legality of MIDI files? feldon@p... Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12353 Re: Legality of MIDI files? Plumer, Scott Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 9:40 pm Subject: Re: The Keep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Mathew Hargreaves > So how about stopping the crying about what you are not getting, and >appreciate what you are finally being allowed to buy and enjoy. Ahhh, finally some pos. messages! You took the words right out of my mouth, Math. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels (little upd today) Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 8:59 pm Subject: Re: Daventura's Interpretation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: DAVENTURA > n.p...Manuel Gottsching..E2-E4...Thanks Vic..Did you give this thing a listen? > It's amazing, well maybe not amazing, but very enjoyable. > I'm on a TD Boycott right now, until Edgar apologizes for calling me a > drugfilled scatterbrain...hehe > I guess we have a topic for next week, huh? Hey David, you're a funny guy :-) BTW, is the Pope Catholic? Of course I have my own copy of E2-E4, just have to share this great music with a fellow fan! And speaking of fans, I had a chance to meet up with Craig Shipley and Elana Who? at the Atlanta Airport last night. I found Craig by carrying around a sign and I (we) found Elana by her rainbow cap and the infamous over-sized trout :-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 10:11 pm Subject: Re: Daventura's Interpretation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Vic Rek >And speaking of fans, I had a chance to meet up with Craig Shipley and >Elana Who? at the Atlanta Airport last night. I found Craig by carrying >around a sign and I (we) found Elana by her rainbow cap and the infamous >over-sized trout :-) Tell us all ! :) Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 10:16 pm Subject: Re: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << Does Oldfield have a site or email that I could report this to? Scott >> I remember someone saying something about one. Did you try a Net Search? That reminds me, I have a wav of 'Please welcome Tangerine Dream' from Logos....Am I in trouble too?....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 11:26 pm Subject: Re: Copy from update on TD Website ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta Many is the time when I thought of writing a rant such as theirs when I was running the music & lyrics archives. You would not BELIEVE the number of demanding, infantile, rude, and just plain crazy messages I got in e-mail and as uploads from people who were of the opinion that I 'owed' them something because I ran the site. I know where he is coming from and while I don't think they should have put up the message, but I certainly agree with some of his points. Unfortunately, many of the people who really need to understand the messages he is trying to give won't 'get it', mostly because of the way it was written. -Dave From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 11:46 pm Subject: tape trees update + 3 & 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> dreamers We know those of you on the euro & digital branches are waiting for your tapes. there was a slight delay on this end and on that end; the tapes will be distributed shortly (partly it was a matter of waiting for the mail...). I will update you as soon as I know more. I apologize for any delays on my end; I'm sure the material will be worth it. in the meantime, we will postpone starting the d:live discussion until you've had a chance to receive the tapes now, we are getting ready to start trees 3 & 4 so as not to delay everything else; here's what's planned: ------------------------------------------------------------ tree 3 (2c90s + c100) --> c90 #1 8.16.75 Orange (Festival Pop d'Orange, Theatre Antique et Gymnase) 59 min. (Au) MC (4th generation; Oranges From France; Seekers of Dreams) 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) full encore 20 min. (Au) MC PLUS: --> c90#2: 9.23.75 Reims (Opera House) 85 min. (Au) MC PLUS: --> c100#1 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) 100 min (Au) MC ------------------------------------------------------------- tree 4: (3c90s) --> c90#1 2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University) 105 min (Au) MC (2nd gen? & 3rd gen) PLUS --> c90 #2 11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) MC (1st gen? & 2nd gen.) PLUS --> c90 #3: 6.27.76 Berlin (Philharmonic) 33 min. (FM) CDR (The Dream Is Not Always The Same [best]; Danger Live, part 2; Tape Trax 2) 2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University) 105 min (Au) MC (--part 2) 11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) MC (--part 2) -------------------------------------------------- if you have any masters or lo-gen tapes, please let tom w know... the formal call for participation will be going out in the near future so please don't try sign up yet and confuse us or we'll send the 'rosty bikers' and 'harley babies under your ass' out to 'boisy' after you ;-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12321 Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 TWeibre361 Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12322 Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 John Majka Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12327 Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 DAVENTURA Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12349 Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 TWeibre361 Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: EO and presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: pal szatmari Hello everyone, I'm another freshman. Just like Marek I joined the list a few days ago. I am also interested in EO CD set. Can anyone help me out? I have been following your critical exchanges with a kind of detachment: I am not going to influence anyone by revewing TD tracks. I think music is individually experienced making its way to people in different ways. Of course I have my favourites, too and they might not coincide with others' but it does not mean that the music is to blame. Having read a great number of your messages, I know this one will cause a stir. One more thing: I do not understand you guys arguing over presets and original sounds. Let TD decide what sounds to use: they are the musicians, we are the audience. Music is not just patches and sounds. TD is known for creating unique COMPOSITIONS as well as being trailbrazers in inventing the necessary sounds need be. Paul Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12345 Re: EO and presets DAVENTURA Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12357 Re: EO and presets feldon@p... Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12371 Re: EO and presets Lawry Simm Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB 12378 Re: EO and presets Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: So, QUINOA & 'Silver Scale' are both excerpts, eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:53:49 -0600 >Subject: Re: Old Or New Quinoa? >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: feldon@p... > >At 10:24 AM 3/25/98 +0800, you wrote: >>Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >> >>Will this 'Quinoa in full length' be a new CD or old ones in their >>inventory? Who knows more? > >My interpretation: At the very least, a repress, as they have sold all >their old ones. At the most, a new extended version... *My* guess is that--much like the case with 'Silver Scale' (TANGENTS) --the track known as QUINOA is--like 'Oriental Haze' (ROCKOON CD-single, 220 VOLT LIVE)--but a portion of a larger piece in the first place, so that all Edgar really has to do is add the part that was missing onto the release known as QUINOA. And while we're on the subject, I wish *somebody* would make it so that the first two parts of LOGOS (Side One and the bulk of Side Two on the LOGOS LP) were one unit rather than being linked by a fade-out and fade-in. -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12310 Logos in one Sean Montgomery Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12358 Re: So, QUINOA & 'Silver Scale' are both excerpts feldon@p... Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 1:17 am Subject: Logos in one ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > And while we're on the subject, I wish *somebody* would make it so > that the first two parts of LOGOS (Side One and the bulk of Side Two on > the LOGOS LP) were one unit rather than being linked by a fade-out and > fade-in. But this *has* been done, on the Virgin Definitive Edition of Logos. On the version of it that I have, anyway. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 1:56 am Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > BTW, Do you have the Asian release of The Keep laserdisc? It has a > > different cover, maybe even a different ending.. > > > > Vic > > it does have a different ending...remember the one with Edgar fighting > off the Nazi's with his Gibson les paul? Well, that's the one. There's a 50-copy ltd. edition of that laserdisc wih the restored 45-second sequence where Ed points his guitarneck to the ground, twists a knob, and makes likes The Rocketeer. Ed's rocket-guitar blasts him straight up to the orbiting satellite manned by Chris Franke and Wolfgang Palm. ...btw, Florian from Kraftwerk was originally considered for scott Glenn's role. > Dano > > np: Green Ice (B. Wyman)...and Eli...admit it...you think Ryan O Neal is > a sex god...yeehahahahahaha!!! Dude, that OST's by Bill Wyman? (not the Stones' ex-bassist Wyman)... Wyman & Terry Taylor did that way cool 'Opera Theme' for Opera, plus 'Valley' for Creepers/Phenomena. It *must* be good for an OST. Ryan's cool because he reminds me of Dirk Diggler, hahahahaha! So bring that vid...I wanna see Kate's ta-ta's. E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: On Edgar's Lack of Omniscience and THE KEEP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Message-Id: <199803251618.KAA21657@c...> >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:18:47 -0500 (EST) >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > >> Really-From: Steven Feldman >> >> >Really-From: Gabe Yedid >> > >> >On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: >> > >> >Whoa, now it sounds like Eddie is confused. [. . .] >> >This further implies that the official release >> >b) the original version of the soundtrack, that was for some reason >> > rejected at the 11th hour >> >> This seems to be the case. > >My, you agree? ;) So you think that the official release might actually >have some 'authenticity' to it then? [. . .] Yes, *some*, insofar as Michael Mann seems to have wound up using a lot of music from LOGOS and some from RUBYCON for the film. But then, what about the boatload of stuff on the Blue Moon boot and the CD-R boot that *was* used in the film yet is not on LOGOS nor the TDI ltd. ed. of THE KEEP? >[. . .] I have my doubts. Personally, I think that the cuts that >appeared as 'Romanian Road' and 'Fisherman's Morning', (which on the >official release under different titles, right?) are *HIGHLY* atypical >for TD of that period. [. . .] Atypical, yes; *highly* atypical, though? Not really. How about the stuff on the 'Das Machen auf der Treppe' 12'? 'Moorland' is on this 12'--and a remix of this is in the film, THE KEEP [specifically, track 14 of the Blue Moon boot, 'The Keep 'Mid Theme' (remix)' (1:50), and track 7 of the CD-R boot, 'Crossing Saver' (4:02), the latter of which is the 1st part of the two Moorland variants that appear in the movie]. And how about the versions of 'The Dream is Always the Same' and 'Love on a Real Train' that appeared on the first two LP pressings of RISKY BUSINESS (and now on ELECTRONIC ORGY)? They sound more like tracks from LEGEND than anything else, and yet LEGEND wasn't released until 1986, where as RISKY BUSINESS was in 1983. >[. . .] They may have been interesting experiments for that time, yes, >but I think they are more likely doctored. For that matter, I think that a good 50% of the TDI ltd. ed. of THE KEEP is atypical of TD of the time. Track 3, 'The Silver Seal' (3:07), is reminiscent of material on HYPERBOREA and of 'Love Phantasy' off the FLASHPOINT soundtrack--which is one of the most unusual TD tracks ever. Track 5, 'Arx Allemand' (4:24), is a jaunty, neo-classical tune that sounds somewhat like a combination of the styles of Tomita and Walter/ Wendy Carlos, and brings to mind a funkified version of 'Hobo March' (a/k/a 'Ode to Granny A' off Edgar's AGES album). Track 10, 'Love and Destiny' (3:31), is reminiscent of material on the DESTINATION BERLIN soundtrack, even though DB is from 1989 and THE KEEP is from 1983! And last but not least, track 13, 'Parallel Worlds' (4:29), is unique and unlike any thing else TD has done. I have all four of Johannes' albums, and it my guess that this track is 100% Johannes' doing since I don't hear any Froese influence on it whatsoever. >> >None of this changes the fact that a version of the movie actually >> >featuring a whole lot of the 'official' music is known. Despite the fact that you commented on my comment of 'Huh?' I still don't understand the sentence above. It's not that I agree or disagree; I just plain don't understand what you're saying. It's something to do with the syntactic structure of the sentence, I think. >> >> really believe what's been printed on a bootleg or what producers >> >> of such boots will sell you as a true story? Lots of boots we saw >> >> contained [. . .] >> > >> >If you are legally prevented from telling us the real story, yes. >> >> Glad you said it, rather than me. ;) > >Would you have at all? ;) If *you* hadn't? Perhaps. I'm not sure. Maybe. >Message-Id: <199803252051.OAA00849@c...> >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: The Keep >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:50:44 +0000 >Really-From: Mathew Hargreaves > > I find it interesting that a lot of people are getting mad at Edgar >Froese for having posted some remarks about what constitutes an 'official' >soundtrack score album for The Keep. Not counting the LP version - since no >one lays claim to having it, the only official album to date is the one >Virgin will finally be releasing. Does that make the TDI ltd. ed. CD *'unofficial'*, then?!? If so, that would mean that there are *five* unofficial THE KEEP albums: o the 1984 LP o the THE KEEP by the Fantasy Merchants CD o the Blue Moon CD boot o the CD-R boot o the TDI ltd. ed. CD > In the end, The Keep soundtrack will be music that was composed and >played by Tangerine Dream. Since they are finally releasing their >version of the score album, [. . .] Their *current* *TANGENTS-ized* version, more like. I suspect that what is on the 1984 is a different selection of tracks, and that those tracks that are shared between the two releases have different mixes. >[. . .] I am looking forward to it. It is better than the music >never seeing an official release at all. Well, *that's* fairly inarguable. ;) > So how about stopping the crying about what you are not getting, >and appreciate what you are finally being allowed to buy and enjoy. What I am 'finally being *allowed* to buy and enjoy'?!? Praised be to Edgar for allowing us poor sinners the opportunity to share in more of His blessed bounty--of which we are not worthy . . . not! 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(tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:04 am Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >> To my surprise he even didn´t answer the questions properly. >> >> Odd Ed. >> >> Jens >Actually I think that's pretty serious. Are we seeing signs of >early-onset artery-hardening/senility here? >Gabe Norse gods aren't subject to the ailments and diseases we mere mortals must contend with. E-Man np: yo' mama Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12330 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Gabe Yedid Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:06 am Subject: Re: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > I just stumbled on a site that uses a MIDI of Oldfield's Tubular Bells, > and others. How legal is that? Couldn't they get in trouble? Does > Oldfield have a site or email that I could report this to? I'd leave it alone. One day *you* might wanna use a MIDI of TD's 'Wahn,' for, I dunno, something :-) hehe E-Man np np: wif myse'f From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:11 am Subject: Re: Daventura's Interpretation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >>Really-From: Vic Rek > >>And speaking of fans, I had a chance to meet up with Craig Shipley and >>Elana Who? at the Atlanta Airport last night. I found Craig by carrying >>around a sign and I (we) found Elana by her rainbow cap and the infamous >>over-sized trout :-) > >Tell us all ! :) I'm sure you'd like to know, but didn't you just see her smack that trout around in The Nederlands ;) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:17:26 -0800 (PST) >Subject: Re: Logos in one >FRom: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >> And while we're on the subject, I wish *somebody* would make it so >> that the first two parts of LOGOS (Side One and the bulk of Side Two on >> the LOGOS LP) were one unit rather than being linked by a fade-out and >> fade-in. > >But this *has* been done, on the Virgin Definitive Edition of Logos. On >the version of it that I have, anyway. Take a closer listen: where one section ends and the other begins, there is a such a noticeable dip in the decibel levels that it might as well be a fade out/fade in. Am I the only one who thinks this? -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12326 Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? DAVENTURA Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12359 Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? feldon@p... Thu 3/26/1998 4 KB 12365 Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? Vic Rek Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12372 Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? feldon@p... Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:07 am Subject: Re: The Keep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > >Really-From: Mathew Hargreaves > > > So how about stopping the crying about what you are not getting, and > >appreciate what you are finally being allowed to buy and enjoy. > > Ahhh, finally some pos. messages! > You took the words right out of my mouth, Math. Yeah! Go, Marcel! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! btw, your musick'z vewy kewl...review soon... E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:19 am Subject: Re: Logos in one ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Sean writes: > And while we're on the subject, I wish *somebody* would make it so > that the first two parts of LOGOS (Side One and the bulk of Side Two on > the LOGOS LP) were one unit rather than being linked by a fade-out and > fade-in. Yeah, kinda reminds me off my old Pioneer 8-Track. On the Styx album, Renegade faded out, click to track 3, and it faded back in. Annoying as hell....David I'm pretty sure that today's CD players have a forward scan function, in fact my remote even has a button that I can push, and it likes moves forward in the tune. Amazing thing...technology...David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:25 am Subject: Re: The Keep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-25 15:58:06 EST, you write: << So how about stopping the crying about what you are not getting, and appreciate what you are finally being allowed to buy and enjoy. >> bootlegs and taping! tom w np: gwu 77.... ps: this rambling thing kinda redeems behind the horizon in a small way, huh? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:28 am Subject: Re: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-25 16:32:29 EST, you write: << I just stumbled on a site that uses a MIDI of Oldfield's Tubular Bells, and others. How legal is that? Couldn't they get in trouble? Does Oldfield have a site or email that I could report this to? >> why do you care? tom w np: tubular bells in nyc 82 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:37 am Subject: Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-25 18:48:45 EST, you write: << if you have any masters or lo-gen tapes, please let tom w know... >> seriously people, anything you may have stashed away from 75 or 76 that you believe would interest us fans would be appreciated...let me know...thanks... tom w np: bullitnuts - another day at the orifice From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:42 am Subject: Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka what's a tape tree? John Majka flossbac@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:43 am Subject: Re: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-25 21:09:40 EST, you write: << hehe E-Man np np: wif myse'f >> ur a sick puppy....santana as background? tom w np: soul sacrifice From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:55 am Subject: Re: On Edgar's Lack of Omniscience and THE KEEP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Mr. Feldman writes: << Atypical, yes; *highly* atypical, though? Not really. How about the stuff on the 'Das Machen auf der Treppe' One of their best tunes from that period...IMHO And how about the versions of 'The Dream is Always the Same' and 'Love on a Real Train' that appeared on the first two LP pressings of RISKY BUSINESS (and now on ELECTRONIC ORGY)? They sound more like tracks from LEGEND than anything else, and yet LEGEND wasn't released until 1986, where as RISKY BUSINESS was in 1983. >> I'm not sure what Soundtrack you're listening to, but almost everything except LOART (which I never grow tired of) was previously released. The intro from Tangram and Stratosfear, cuts from Force Majeure. On the other hand, Legend is almost original in its composition. N.P. Ventura '92...Disc 1...Man I love these CDR's....David On my little Sony bookshelf system w/ simulated surround sound listening with my top of the line Sony MDR-V6 Headphones...Man oh man...what a treat for the senses. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:58 am Subject: Re: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: TWeibre361 > > > np: wif myse'f > >> > > ur a sick puppy....santana as background? haha....'evil ways' as a matter of fact, hahahaha! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:04 am Subject: Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << Take a closer listen: where one section ends and the other begins, there is a such a noticeable dip in the decibel levels that it might as well be a fade out/fade in. Am I the only one who thinks this? -- Steven Feldman >> I must (bowing) admit that I agree with you completely. I have listened to Logos at least 300 times. ( and that was just last week) I understand splitting it for the LP, but couldn't we just remix a minute or two so it's seamless? Kinda reminds me of Wish You Were Here, Shine on You Crazy Diamond (Steve's theme song, in my mind)....Damn angry underappreciated Germans and Brits. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:11 am Subject: Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << what's a tape tree? >> It's where we all get together and trade and distribute stuff that The Mad Edgar makes no money from. It is a good way of building up our collection and possibly getting some rare or unheard stuff at the same time. We have another tree forming soon, so keep your eyes peeled on this channel. Is that a good explanation guys?...David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:38 am Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 12:40 PM 3/25/1998, Kevin Earley wrote: >I really hope that it is a poor German to English translation, or lack of >decent editing, because the writing in the Focus the Facts section of the >TD Page reads like the confused ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic. >Those of you who are interested in conspiracy theories and Kooks in >general, will know what I mean. Pretty strong statement from someone who obviously has never interviewed a paranoid-schizophrenic. I don't personally know Edgar Froese, although I know a bit of his history and a little about his development as an artist. While I don't necessarily agree with everything he says and don't like some of his music, I am convinced he is a true genius. If one reads the biographies of geniuses, their diaries, or, when available, interviews with or about them, it becomes quite clear that they are 'listening to a different drummer' than the rest of us mere mortals. I, for one, can't even fathom what it must be like to hear the hundreds of tunes a Beethoven must have heard in his mind (even when deaf), or the what a Dali or a Michelangelo must have seen when they looked at a blank canvas or ceiling. And yes, despite their obvious foibles and short-comings, the Edgar Froeses, Klaus Schulzes and David Gilmours of our world exist in a realm that most of us can't even imagine. So, personally, I expect them to be incoherent sometimes, at least by our standards, defensive like any other human being, sensitive when their life's work is criticized and even peevish or temperamental at times. Has anyone read a Dali interview? Or one with Anatoly Karpov? I imagine that some, reading the Froeses little diatribe will feel uncomfortable. Some will think this man doesn't make sense.' Not only is he not a native English speaker, but he speaks/writes as he is...as he feels. Well, that's where that wonderful music comes from. I rejoice at his strangeness and his 'ramblings.' What you hear is genius at work! As opposed to some of you, I ended up grinning from ear to ear when I read the notes on the TD Web site. I would have been truly disappointed if he sounded just like me. I don't want Edgar Froese (don't have enough history on Jerome yet) reduced to my size. No, sir. BTW, the majority of the great geniuses in the history of the arts and sciences were considered quite mad/insane by their peers. Andrew Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12368 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Michael Fox Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 4:08 am Subject: Re: Copy from update on TD Website ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek You know, I'd probably be one of the first to find a reason to be critical, but after reading (slowly) the TD website 'facts' page, I don't have a problem with what was written or how it was written. Yes, a few paragraphs (as shown to this list) were disjointed in meaning, but nothing out of the ordinary. Did I just miss the boat or something? I'm happy Edgar wrote this actually. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 4:11 am Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > >> To my surprise he even didn´t answer the questions properly. > >> > >> Odd Ed. > >> > >> Jens > > >Actually I think that's pretty serious. Are we seeing signs of > >early-onset artery-hardening/senility here? > > >Gabe > > Norse gods aren't subject to the ailments and diseases we mere mortals must > contend with. > > E-Man > np: yo' mama Oh would you stop it with the Norse god bit! I have a lot of respect for what Edgar has accomplished in life, but I think he is as mortal and fallible as anybody else. And that still doesn't give him the right to regard his fans as smut. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 5:27 am Subject: Re: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > > > I just stumbled on a site that uses a MIDI of Oldfield's Tubular Bells, > > and others. How legal is that? Couldn't they get in trouble? Does > > Oldfield have a site or email that I could report this to? > > I'd leave it alone. One day *you* might wanna use a MIDI of TD's 'Wahn,' > for, I dunno, something :-) > > hehe midi 'Wahn' heheeee heehehhahhahhaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! > E-Man Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 25, 1998 9:03 pm Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: DJS > >it does have a different ending...remember the one with Edgar fighting >off the Nazi's with his Gibson les paul? Well, that's the one. You're sure it wasn't a Fender? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... (guys, don't take this whole TD thing too seriously. just listen to what you like and if you don't like it, don't listen to it etc. it's 'just' music. I really don't know why some people get upset with edgar &co. everybody is an asshole some time in his life :-) maybe for some of you, it's now edgar's time. I would be pissed off if people asked me constantly about the same things over and over again. Now I'm pissed :-))) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 7:09 am Subject: Re: Edgar is Not Omniscient nor Infallible ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > >Really-From: DJS > > > >it does have a different ending...remember the one with Edgar fighting > >off the Nazi's with his Gibson les paul? Well, that's the one. > > You're sure it wasn't a Fender? > > Marcel Hmm, come to think of it...it may have even been a Jackson! D- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 7:03 am Subject: Re: Daventura's Interpretation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Vic Rek > > >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > >>Really-From: Vic Rek > > > >>And speaking of fans, I had a chance to meet up with Craig Shipley and > >>Elana Who? at the Atlanta Airport last night. I found Craig by carrying > >>around a sign and I (we) found Elana by her rainbow cap and the infamous > >>over-sized trout :-) > > > >Tell us all ! :) > > I'm sure you'd like to know, but didn't you just see her smack that trout > around in The Nederlands ;) > > Vic Personally, I'd rather sit and watch Dirk Diggler in action back to back with any film by Chris Makepeace than see Elana wield a giant fish while wearing a rainbow cap...but that's just me heh heh. Dano np: The Keep LP...yes...I've had it all along but have decided to just keep it to myself....nyah! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 5:59 am Subject: TDI Distribution of other Artists ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' Quoted from the 'Focus and Facts' Page on the TD Webpage. http://www.tadream.de/tadream/facts.html 'Also on a TDI special section, we will feature artists TD has produced and will also support their first releases. So watch this site for more details, coming soon.' That sounds pretty cool, I wonder what artists Edgar Frose is reffering to. TDI could become a really good synth label for music, with a large distribution--I think going around all the record compaines that Edgar says: 'For sure they talk about the possibility of being ripped off by their record companies, that's something we all have in common.' This is a good idea as the artists deserve the money more so than the componies. I think that if you are not at one time on the top whatever 100, it tough to make a living doing what you love. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 7:13 am Subject: TD Roadie Defiance (no, not the Jan Michael Vincent movie!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS Just thought I'd mention...I saw a TD roadie wearing an Ozzy tshirt at the 1988 show. Maybe that's why Edgar's face is permanently cringing...er...just a thought. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 6:24 am Subject: Visage and Tangerine Dream??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: agray@m... Hello dreamers, I just noticed, that in sleeve of TD's album Tournado is also section 'very special thanks', and one of persons noticed here is Steve Strange. This guy was leader of so-called 'punk supergroup' Visage (well, although they didn't played punk music, but beautiful melodic 'new romance'). They are now mostly forgotten, but they were great in early 80's. I would like to know, if there was some collaboration between S.S. and TD on this tour, or if this guy was named here as source of inspiration, and there was no real collaborations between them. Anyone know the reply??? Richard Bilek, Praha From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 6:27 am Subject: Re: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 04:35 PM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > >I just stumbled on a site that uses a MIDI of Oldfield's Tubular Bells, >and others. How legal is that? Couldn't they get in trouble? Does >Oldfield have a site or email that I could report this to? You must be against fantapes too.. Those MIDI files are written from scratch. Even if they are in a likeness of a copyrighted work, I think they is protected... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 6:31 am Subject: (no subject) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA One thing that comes out in myths is that at the bottom of the abyss comes the voice of salvation. The black moment is the moment when the real message of transformation is going to come. At the darkest moment comes the light. - Joseph Campbell I found this quote and thought it was appropriate....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13129 (no subject) Steve Jenkins Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 15502 (no subject) paul todd Tue 4/6/1999 1 KB 15506 Re: (no subject) Plumer, Scott Tue 4/6/1999 1 KB 15526 (no subject) J. Lee Jolley Wed 4/7/1999 1 KB 15527 Re: (no subject) TJames0001@xxx.xxx Wed 4/7/1999 1 KB 15528 Re: (no subject) Joel Mullen Thu 4/8/1999 1 KB 15529 Re: (no subject) Joel Mullen Thu 4/8/1999 1 KB 15566 (no subject) J. Lee Jolley Sat 4/10/1999 1 KB 15567 Re: (no subject) James Horecka, AIA Sat 4/10/1999 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 7:21 am Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' [Andrew is convinced, Edgar IS a genius] >BTW, the majority of the great geniuses in the history of the arts and >sciences were considered quite mad/insane by their peers. Quite. Hence my comparison with Wagner. E. Kant is also one of those mentioned geniuses. I don´t know if Edgar is a genius, but he´s talking (in German) like one of those *confused* (it seems to be confused for most people) professors who are on a different level in almost everything. Although I´m more than happy that those people are on a higher level in their main topics. I´m just not that happy with their social competence which is on a lower level. You just can´t have all in one person. On the other side of the coin the mankind needs those *different* people, innovators, visionaires, geniuses. Actually we need those people *now* more urgent, than most of us (the mankind) believe. Sadly, but true. Were are the Marxes (he was a most *excellent* economist, btw), Kants, etc. of our days ? Jens Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12373 Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to Eng Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 7:52 am Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >> Norse gods aren't subject to the ailments and diseases we mere mortals must >> contend with. >> >> E-Man >> np: yo' mama >Oh would you stop it with the Norse god bit! >I have a lot of respect for what Edgar has accomplished in life, but I >think he is as mortal and fallible as anybody else. And that still >doesn't give him the right to regard his fans as smut. ^^^^^^ Smut? Oh, man, now I feel so *cheap,* haha. My buddy Edgar can regard me as smut all he wants, so long as he releases all this music (which he knows we're all gonna buy) and as long as he regards me as a Playboy and not some two-bit Cheri. Haha.... E-Man np: Los Testes, *Vas Deferens Between You 'N' Me* From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 5:12 pm Subject: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen > >Quite. On a German video interview I saw recently, >he was rambling and confused. > >To my surprise he even didn't answer the questions properly. > >Odd Ed. > >Jens > [...] Hi, I've been quiet here for the last...mh, year or so, but I'm much too tempted to say something about this TD facts page and your amusing comments on Edgar. When I read the facts page, I was mostly amused. In Edgar's case, I would have complained much earlier about things like garbage fax messages ('please, do another Rubycon' or 'Jerome, get a haircut' blablabla). As an artist, I'd prefer to 'serve' a more mature community. Emails you can ignore (I ignore most of the tadream postings), but they annoy anyway. The misunderstanding between TD and the fans is that they don't do it for the fans but for themselves! Once in a while, they did something for 'the market' to earn their money, to make a living, to keep the business going and buying all that equipment. As they said somewhere at times of the Logos tour: `Wir brauchen Mittel, um in aller Seelenruhe experimentieren zu koennen. So kommerziell werden wir sein. Nicht mehr.' - Now my crap translation: `We need resources (?) to be able to experiment. We will be that commercial, but not more'. Leaving the commercial bit, all they do is for *themselves* and not for the fans. The fans, however, want to be pleased with what they are fans of. Bad luck for you. About 'rambling', 'confused', 'didn't even answer the questions': Reminds me a bit the public appearance of genius german actor Klaus Kinski. Yep. He was cool. He'd never answered the questions. He always said 'sorry, I don't understand your question, your question is bullshit', and then he would talk about something else which is more important to *him*. And critics: I love Kinski's quote: `Ich schere mich einen Dreck darueber, was die Journalisten schreiben. Wenn ein Koeter an einen Baum pinkelt, faellt der auch nicht gleich um!' - `I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!'. Too bad about the one big difference between Edgar Froese and Klaus Kinski: Edgar gave us Jerome, Klaus gave us Nastassja..... (just kidding) cheers armin Armin Theissen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Armagh Observatory email: ath@s... College Hill http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath Armagh BT61 9DG Phone: (+44) 1861 522928 N. Ireland Fax: (+44) 1861 527174 o/ \o_ \ / __ __o |o \__/o | o____ |__ __/ \__/o | / | / o\ / | > / \ /o\ o| << | \o__/ Ouch!!! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12343 TD's Trick Dennis Nigbur Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12344 Re: edgar and td facts page DAVENTURA Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12367 Re: edgar and td facts page Michael Fox Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12383 Re: edgar and td facts page Sean Montgomery Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB 12384 Re: edgar and td facts page Poulton, Larry Fri 3/27/1998 5 KB 12397 Re: edgar and td facts page Stefan Stapelberg Sat 3/28/1998 5 KB 12404 Re: edgar and td facts page Sean Montgomery Sat 3/28/1998 5 KB 12399 Re: edgar and td facts page Francisco Salgado C. Sat 3/28/1998 3 KB 12410 Re: edgar and td facts page TWeibre361 Sat 3/28/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 11:52 am Subject: TD's Trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur (Copied from Armin's Page) Edgar Froese: It is astonishing, and I listen to it from time to time. And I have to say: None of these young bands have found...The early TD had a trick. Well, of course I am not going to give it away here, but no one has yet found out about this trick. I always listen to records to find out if somebody finally manages to discover this trick. We had this to help us out of a need, so it wasn't an intellectual planned achievement, but borne of this need we had a certain pattern in our sequences and in the way we treated the sequences, that had to do with the intervals and so on, I don't wish to say more about this now. I would really like to see that someone finds out how this functioned. It wouldn't have to sound exactly like TD, but it would give one the possibility, that much I can say, to cover a wide spectrum, which sofar, like it has been done until now, cannot be covered. There is one thing missing, one element. It is a very small thing, but suddenly you realize that a whole new musical cosmos opens up... Have any of you musicians on this list got any idea about what this 'trick' is? Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 1:23 pm Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << The misunderstanding between TD and the fans is that they don't do it for the fans but for themselves! >> Yeah, so do the Spice Girls....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 1:34 pm Subject: Re: EO and presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Paul, I'll let you have my copy for $125, including shipping....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 1:40 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << Not only is he not a native English speaker, but he speaks/writes as he is...as he feels. Well, that's where that wonderful music comes from. >> Immediately starting work on my new Russian Folk dance album....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 1:45 pm Subject: Re: TD's Trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << Have any of you musicians on this list got any idea about what this 'trick' is? >> Really good drugs and gullible fans...David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12351 Re: TD's Trick Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12355 Re: TD's Trick Greg Heil Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12360 Re: TD's Trick feldon@p... Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12361 Re: TD's Trick Marcel Engels Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12362 Re: TD's Trick Greg Heil Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:31 pm Subject: genius.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> >Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio >Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' [...major edit...] >BTW, the majority of the great geniuses in the history of the arts and >sciences were considered quite mad/insane by their peers. >Andrew -- OK Andrew, I'm calling your bluff. you make a reasonable argument (although I disagree) then you try to support it with some totally off-the-wall inanity like this.... with all due respect, this statement is just plain untrue, inaccurate, unsupportable, garbage ;-) this is the kind of misinformed stereotypical artist-as-divinely-inspired bullshit that edgar bought into and now spews forth in his own defense on the td website -- it's NOT a universal truth... PLEASE don't go there with me.... i'll agree to stay away from psychological diagnoses if you agree to tread lightly on the art history... lars (I've had ro[e]sti 'taters but I've never had a rosty bike...) np: 'uncle ernie' from 'tommy, the rock opera' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12350 Re: genius.... DAVENTURA Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 12352 Re: genius.... Vincent Goudreault Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB 12354 Re: genius.... Plumer, Scott Thu 3/26/1998 4 KB 12374 Re: genius.... Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 3/27/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 2:34 pm Subject: Re: tape trees update + 3 & 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-25 22:16:24 EST, you write: << It's where we all get together and trade and distribute stuff that The Mad Edgar makes no money from. It is a good way of building up our collection and possibly getting some rare or unheard stuff at the same time. We have another tree forming soon, so keep your eyes peeled on this channel. Is that a good explanation guys?...David >> couldnt have said it better... tom w np: brand x=sta. monica 1993 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:22 pm Subject: Re: genius.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA << The majority of the great geniuses in the history of the arts and >sciences were considered quite mad/insane by their peers. >Andrew >> Yeah, some people believe Hitler was a genius....just my two cents...David PS. I'm not even Jewish From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:39 pm Subject: Re: TD's Trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Have any of you musicians on this list got any idea about > what this 'trick' is? > > Dennis The *trick* is...everyone comes up with their *own.* Maybe this is Edgar's indirect way of expressing his sourness toward all the TDesque artists in EM, the new (90s) Berlin Schoolers, etc. That's my guess. E-Man np: Casino From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:52 pm Subject: Re: genius.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > << The majority of the great geniuses in the history of the arts and > >sciences were considered quite mad/insane by their peers. > >Andrew >> > > Yeah, some people believe Hitler was a genius....just my two cents...David > > PS. I'm not even Jewish But Hitler was 1/4 Jewish... Talk about irony. C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 4:00 pm Subject: RE: Legality of MIDI files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> I just stumbled on a site that uses a MIDI of Oldfield's Tubular Bells, >> and others. How legal is that? Couldn't they get in trouble? Does >> Oldfield have a site or email that I could report this to? >I'd leave it alone. One day *you* might wanna use a MIDI of TD's 'Wahn,' >for, I dunno, something :-) Normally I would, but this was one of those hate-filled religious-right sites, loaded with vitriol & lies about my religious beliefs and generally anyone who didn't believe the way they do. Nice site, though. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 4:39 pm Subject: RE: genius.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >-- OK Andrew, I'm calling your bluff. you make a reasonable argument >(although I disagree) then you try to support it with some totally I think Ed takes himself too damn seriously, and is just too sensitive to accept criticism. Most Prog-rock bands of the '70s were panned by the critics, but they didn't let it bother them, they played for themselves and their fans, and laughed all the way to the bank. I have to agree to a point with Ed, though. I think they've gotten a bum rap from the press at times, often from a press that may not always understand TD's music and e-music in general. Back in '88, after the Cleveland show, a local critic wrote a really nasty review of the show that basically said that e-music was garbage because it wasn't 'real' and was just yuppie muzak. I fired off a letter to him saying that you can't judge e-music by the same standard that you judge rock by. His position was that all rock had to be about rebelellion, and that it didn't matter if you were good, as long a syou had the right feelings. In his philosophy, the Sex Pistols were gods. E-music & prog rock both, I told him, were more rebellious than corporate rock will ever be. Almost none of them have major label deals, and, most importantly, they all do their own thing in their own time. If any music keeps the rebellious nature of early rock alive, it's prog & e-music. Of course, whether you think ToB keeps rebellion alive is another story, but from what Ed says, he's doing his own thing in his own time. He should be proud. Scott NP: Ominous Seapods From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 4:38 pm Subject: Re: TD's Trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: Dennis Nigbur > Have any of you musicians on this list got any idea about > what this 'trick' is? > > Dennis The use of pre-telling notes from which a musical 'carpet' is layed upon. Within the sequences, lies a few notes that glide into another transition. It's kind of like having the outline before you fill in the details. But the special thing about it is that anything such as sound effects and traditional instrumental sections can be overlayed above the shifting sequence structures. So a sequence starts off--normally, it moves and changes pitch.. note.. but most importantly, the sequence contains the vital information for the next sequence/transition. Usually one has to listen many, mnay times to figure out how parts of the songs flow. I'm trying to describe my best.. I'm a visual artist, not a musician! ;o) Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12360 Re: TD's Trick feldon@p... Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 5:08 pm Subject: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jriggenbach@w... (Jeff Riggenbach) I'm looking for a copy of this 2-CD set -- a bootleg recorded at a Southern California concert in 1986. Can anyone help? Best wishes, JR From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 5:46 pm Subject: Re: EO and presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 12:44 AM 3/26/98 PST, you wrote: >Really-From: pal szatmari >Hello everyone, > >One more thing: I do not understand you guys >arguing over presets and original sounds. >Let TD decide what sounds to use: they are >the musicians, we are the audience. Music >is not just patches and sounds. TD is known >for creating unique COMPOSITIONS as well as >being trailbrazers in inventing the necessary >sounds need be. Several of the people on this list are musicians, so not only are we the audience, we are also creators. Anyone can make judgement statements. We do admire Tangerine Dream to be great e-music composers, but we do need new stuff to listen to periodically, and TD just isn't living up to its previous output, at least a majority of the list believes this to be so... We are being critical because we question the amount of thought that goes into TD's releases these days. feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 5:51 pm Subject: Re: So, QUINOA & 'Silver Scale' are both excerpts, eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 08:04 PM 3/25/98 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: Steven Feldman > > And while we're on the subject, I wish *somebody* would make it so >that the first two parts of LOGOS (Side One and the bulk of Side Two on >the LOGOS LP) were one unit rather than being linked by a fade-out and >fade-in. The CD has no such fade. Only on the Poland 2CD is there such an unnecessary fade. Um, if you revert the Logos CD to the way it was originally played, it will contain an unreleased track, a track from The Soldier, a track from The Keep, Choronzon (Exit), Tangent (the first 3 minutes), and an 11 minute long remix of Mojave Plan. I don't think that will fit on a CD. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 6:07 pm Subject: Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:06 PM 3/25/98 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: Steven Feldman > > >>Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:17:26 -0800 (PST) >>Subject: Re: Logos in one >>FRom: tadream mailing list >>Really-From: Sean Montgomery >> >>> And while we're on the subject, I wish *somebody* would make it so >>> that the first two parts of LOGOS (Side One and the bulk of Side Two on >>> the LOGOS LP) were one unit rather than being linked by a fade-out and >>> fade-in. >> >>But this *has* been done, on the Virgin Definitive Edition of Logos. On >>the version of it that I have, anyway. > > Take a closer listen: where one section ends and the other begins, >there is a such a noticeable dip in the decibel levels that it might as >well be a fade out/fade in. > Am I the only one who thinks this? Steve has SO FOCUSED on The Keep that he has missed out on folklore for other releases, including Logos. Steve, at the 5:30 mark, there is a fadeout. The rest of the music from SET ONE and the first 13 minutes of SET TWO have all be cut out. When it fades back in, its at the 13:00 minute mark of the second set of the concert. They also cut out two encores. Here's the actual Logos concert, compared to the CD: START OF SET ONE LOGOS OFFICIALLY RELEASED CD 0:00-5:30 Rush of Joy* bridge* The Keep track?* The Soldier track?* bridge* Choronzon* (Exit) Tangent* (first 3 minutes - Poland) END OF SET ONE START OF SET TWO Mojave Plan remix** (White Eagle) bridge LOGOS OFFICIALLY RELEASED CD 5:31-42:00 END OF SET TWO ENCORES Midnight in Tula 3:21 White Eagle 3:44? LOGOS OFFICIALLY RELEASED CD - Dominion *These tracks appear on the Logotypes boot. **The last 5 minutes of this track appear on the Logotypes boot. Morgan feldon@p... ================================================================= + My obsession with Logos and 1981-83 is almost as much as + + Steve's obsession with The Keep... almost! -Morgan + ================================================================= From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 6:16 pm Subject: Re: TD's Trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:38 AM 3/26/98 -0700, you wrote: >> Really-From: Dennis Nigbur > >> Have any of you musicians on this list got any idea about >> what this 'trick' is? >> >> Dennis I think the 'trick' that made 70's and 80's TD great was their willingness to have a sequence with a few BAD notes in it... BAD meaning discordant, and against the flow of what's been playing so far... feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 7:22 pm Subject: Re: TD's Trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' I don't think there's any trick at all! I think thats the whole point. If Edgar says something, people are busy analyzing his words which they shouldn't. Edgar is just an average guy just as you and me! :-))) (did I asnwer correct? whats the prize?!?) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 8:14 pm Subject: Re: TD's Trick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: Dennis Nigbur > Have any of you musicians on this list got any idea about > what this 'trick' is? > > Dennis ahhh 8... 8... 16... 8... 8... 32.. 32.. dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah daah daah daah daah daah daah daah daah Just counting sequences :) Greg H. np: White Eagle From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:28 pm Subject: sites for TD midi files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ben Ohmart Any web or ftp sites have TD midi files? Thanks. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12418 Re: sites for TD midi files? Andre.Knuth@f... Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB 12444 Re: sites for TD midi files? feldon@p... Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 8:44 pm Subject: Underwater Moonlight? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy Surfing the online CD sources I saw something called Underwater Moonlight, is this a typo? I don't know of a bootleg by that name. Anybody know of anything by that name? It *would* be a good name for a boot! --tom Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12369 Re: Underwater Moonlight? Steven Feldman Thu 3/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 8:55 pm Subject: Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: feldon@p... > Here's the actual Logos concert, compared to the CD: > > START OF SET ONE > LOGOS OFFICIALLY RELEASED CD 0:00-5:30 > Rush of Joy* > bridge* > The Keep track?* [...] Since I'm quite sure that this concert was recorded before The Keep, would it be more appropriate to say that The Keep had some Logos music in it instead of saying Logos has The Keep music? Just thinking out loud. Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12372 Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? feldon@p... Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 9:10 pm Subject: Tr: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' It is not SOMNANBULISTIC but SONAMBULISTIC. >>Really-From: jriggenbach@w... (Jeff Riggenbach) > > >>I'm looking for a copy of this 2-CD set -- a bootleg recorded at a >>Southern California concert in 1986. Can anyone help? > >>Best wishes, > >>JR > > > > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12377 Re: Tr: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' AOutland Fri 3/27/1998 2 KB 12379 Re: Tr: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' =?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWW Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB 12388 Re: Tr: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' Dave Lane Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:52 pm Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 10:12 AM 3/26/98 GMT, you wrote: > >Too bad about the one big difference between Edgar Froese and Klaus >Kinski: Edgar gave us Jerome, Klaus gave us Nastassja..... So Klaus is one-up on Edgar..............(I'm a naughty boy) Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 3:27 pm Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 09:38 PM 3/25/98 -0600, Andrew-the-sane wrote: I don't want Edgar Froese (don't have enough history >on Jerome yet) reduced to my size. No, sir. Me neither--bless you for expressing the same feelings I had when reading! > >BTW, the majority of the great geniuses in the history of the arts and >sciences were considered quite mad/insane by their peers. And I think it is very important for these geniouses to live way outside the loop the rest of us live in. How can they envision their art if they are bombarded with the input most of us recieve on a daily basis? Thanks, Andrew! Well said! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: Underwater Moonlight? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:44:15 -0700 >Subject: Re: Underwater Moonlight? >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Tom Gerardy > >Surfing the online CD sources I saw something called Underwater >Moonlight, is this a typo? I don't know of a bootleg by that name. >Anybody know of anything by that name? It is the name of an early 80's album by the Soft Boys. The title track is really pretty good. It features a portion of the 60's tune, '96 Tears' in it, too. I don't recall clearly. Were the Soft Boys an early incarnation of Robin Hitchock and the Egyptians? -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 11:01 pm Subject: Re: On Edgar's Lack of Omniscience and THE KEEP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > >My, you agree? ;) So you think that the official release might actually > >have some 'authenticity' to it then? [. . .] > > Yes, *some*, insofar as Michael Mann seems to have wound up using > a lot of music from LOGOS and some from RUBYCON for the film. But then, > what about the boatload of stuff on the Blue Moon boot and the CD-R boot > that *was* used in the film yet is not on LOGOS nor the TDI ltd. ed. of > THE KEEP? I have my doubts as to whether all of this is actually TD we're hearing. > >[. . .] I have my doubts. Personally, I think that the cuts that > >appeared as 'Romanian Road' and 'Fisherman's Morning', (which on the > >official release under different titles, right?) are *HIGHLY* atypical > >for TD of that period. [. . .] > > Atypical, yes; *highly* atypical, though? Not really. How about > the stuff on the 'Das Machen auf der Treppe' 12'? 'Moorland' is on this > 12'--and a remix of this is in the film, THE KEEP [specifically, track > 14 of the Blue Moon boot, 'The Keep 'Mid Theme' (remix)' (1:50), and That's par for the course IMO, at least it sounds 'period'. The two tracks I mentioned sound more like they are from 1985 (though, as you mentioned, there are the two mixes from the Risky Business music). The timbres in these tracks are ones I've not heard in any other TD music from this time. > track 7 of the CD-R boot, 'Crossing Saver' (4:02), the latter of which > is the 1st part of the two Moorland variants that appear in the movie]. > And how about the versions of 'The Dream is Always the Same' and 'Love > on a Real Train' that appeared on the first two LP pressings of RISKY > BUSINESS (and now on ELECTRONIC ORGY)? They sound more like tracks > from LEGEND than anything else, and yet LEGEND wasn't released until > 1986, where as RISKY BUSINESS was in 1983. > > >[. . .] They may have been interesting experiments for that time, yes, > >but I think they are more likely doctored. > > For that matter, I think that a good 50% of the TDI ltd. ed. of THE > KEEP is atypical of TD of the time. Track 3, 'The Silver Seal' (3:07), > is reminiscent of material on HYPERBOREA and of 'Love Phantasy' off the > FLASHPOINT soundtrack--which is one of the most unusual TD tracks ever. 'Love Phantasy' is structured quite a bit like 'Snake Bath' from Edgar's _Kamikaze 1989_, IMO. > (a/k/a 'Ode to Granny A' off Edgar's AGES album). Track 10, 'Love and > Destiny' (3:31), is reminiscent of material on the DESTINATION BERLIN > soundtrack, even though DB is from 1989 and THE KEEP is from 1983! And Even down to a harpsichord-sounding lead ;)? > last but not least, track 13, 'Parallel Worlds' (4:29), is unique and > unlike any thing else TD has done. I have all four of Johannes' albums, > and it my guess that this track is 100% Johannes' doing since I don't > hear any Froese influence on it whatsoever. Agreed. To me, this sounds for all the world like an early draft of 'Wuivend Riet pt. 2'. > >> >None of this changes the fact that a version of the movie actually > >> >featuring a whole lot of the 'official' music is known. > > Despite the fact that you commented on my comment of 'Huh?' I still > don't understand the sentence above. It's not that I agree or disagree; > I just plain don't understand what you're saying. It's something to do > with the syntactic structure of the sentence, I think. No, there's a grammatical error on my part :-S. That last word should be 'UNknown'! > >> Glad you said it, rather than me. ;) > > > >Would you have at all? ;) > > If *you* hadn't? Perhaps. I'm not sure. Maybe. > > >Really-From: Mathew Hargreaves > > > >[. . .] I am looking forward to it. It is better than the music > >never seeing an official release at all. > > Well, *that's* fairly inarguable. ;) > > > So how about stopping the crying about what you are not getting, > >and appreciate what you are finally being allowed to buy and enjoy. > > What I am 'finally being *allowed* to buy and enjoy'?!? Praised > be to Edgar for allowing us poor sinners the opportunity to share in > more of His blessed bounty--of which we are not worthy . . . not! > Steve, it's not just Edgar in this case who prevented us from appreciating any of the music from The Keep in an official way! There was, unfortunately, the legal vicissitudes of the film record industries that had to be contended with, too! They, if anybody, are the ones who didn't allow you to buy and enjoy The Keep OST Mk. I! (if it really exists) Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 26, 1998 11:58 pm Subject: RE: EO and presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' pal szatmari wrote: > One more thing: I do not understand you guys > arguing over presets and original sounds. > Let TD decide what sounds to use: they are > the musicians, we are the audience. I think you'll find that a high percentage of the people on this list are musicians of some sort, and some are even fairly eminent EMusicians, hence the 'expert' opinion that rightly or wrongly comes across. I personally feel it's a perfectly valid discussion, and even the audience have the right to give opinions on composition. If you think this is bad, you should go to a good old British pub when there's a football match on the TV and see how everyone suddenly becomes premiership manager material. :-) Lawry. PS - Welcome to the list Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12378 Re: EO and presets Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 3/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 12:27 am Subject: Re: Fade-in/fade-out on LOGOS LP *and* CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 03:55 PM 3/26/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Vic Rek > >> Really-From: feldon@p... >> Here's the actual Logos concert, compared to the CD: >> >> START OF SET ONE >> LOGOS OFFICIALLY RELEASED CD 0:00-5:30 >> Rush of Joy* >> bridge* >> The Keep track?* >[...] > >Since I'm quite sure that this concert was recorded before The Keep, >would it be more appropriate to say that The Keep had some Logos music >in it instead of saying Logos has The Keep music? Just thinking out >loud. Ok, ok. a track which was later used in hte film... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 1:07 am Subject: Re: I really hope that it is a poor German to English translatio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 08:21 AM 3/26/1998 +0100, you wrote: > >Were are the Marxes (he was a most *excellent* economist, btw), >Kants, etc. of our days ? > There are still around.....we just think they are all crazy. :-) Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 1:28 am Subject: Re: genius.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 09:31 AM 3/26/1998 -0500, Lars wrote: >>BTW, the majority of the great geniuses in the history of the arts and >>sciences were considered quite mad/insane by their peers. >>Andrew > >-- OK Andrew, I'm calling your bluff. you make a reasonable argument >(although I disagree) then you try to support it with some totally >off-the-wall inanity like this.... with all due respect, this statement is >just plain untrue, inaccurate, unsupportable, garbage ;-) this is the kind >of misinformed stereotypical artist-as-divinely-inspired bullshit that >edgar bought into and now spews forth in his own defense on the td website >-- it's NOT a universal truth... PLEASE don't go there with me.... i'll >agree to stay away from psychological diagnoses if you agree to tread >lightly on the art history... It was not a bluff. It was a hypothesis. Would I have to support it, say, by making a complete list of all the geniuses and see if they were considered nuts by their contemporaries? Or, are you saying that Edgar Froese is not a genius? Or, maybe we differ in our definition of what a genius is. Which? Are you saying that geniuses were well-adjusted masters of communication well-respected by their peers -- hence supporting your thesis that what I said was 'untrue?' This would also go for my being 'inaccurate:' I guess Dali (for instance) was not considered crazy -- although some of my art teachers would have argued with you. I am comfortable with my hypothesis. That way I can go on thinking about the man who has brought me so much pleasure in my adulthood as a genius. Rather than, say, a vindictive, petty, irrational, pathological, commoner. Call it my attempt at reducing cognitive dissonance. Andrew >lars >(I've had ro[e]sti 'taters but I've never had a rosty bike...) > >np: 'uncle ernie' from 'tommy, the rock opera' > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 2:00 am Subject: Re: Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-24 22:53:19 EST, you write: << Haven't you ever gotten something in your head that you detested, yet you couldn't stop listening to it, because that was the only way you felt you could get it out? Gabe >> Oh my, yes like Bingo (Once I had a little dog and Bingo was his name-o). LOL, now I've put that in your head. To cure a bad song day, I forcefully replace the bad song with a TD sound even if it's just a humming base tone they use. Usually something in the day happens anyway, like the loud call of a bird, which will start Chia Maroon up in my head and then the bad song is gone. I love the morning when I wake up with a TD song already playing brain waves. Good day ahead! Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 3:36 am Subject: Trans-what? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' In their 'Focus The Facts' page, Edgar mentions the forthcoming *Transsiberian Soundtrack* release...anyone know what this is? What era? Vic? Jens? Hilmar? Scott? Apache?...anyone? E-Man np: Glass Hammer, *On To Evermore* Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12407 Re: Trans-what? pal szatmari Sat 3/28/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 4:03 am Subject: Re: Tr: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-26 16:12:09 EST, you write: << It is not SOMNANBULISTIC but SONAMBULISTIC. >> Sorry, you're wrong; the word is spelled correctly on the subject line, no matter how it's spelled on the boot. It means sleepy by the way. Good imagery. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 6:25 am Subject: RE: EO and presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 11:58 PM 3/26/1998 -0000, Lawry wrote: > >pal szatmari wrote: > >> One more thing: I do not understand you guys >> arguing over presets and original sounds. >> Let TD decide what sounds to use: they are >> the musicians, we are the audience. It's the nature of lists like these. Just like Monday night quarterbacking. I expect, however, that this audience is considerably more qualified at commenting on TD, than my friends are at analyzing play-by-plays of American football games. BTW, Pal, you may want a copy of GoldTri Vol. 1, to see just how qualified some of the commentators on this list are. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. >If you think this is bad, you should go to a good old British >pub when there's a football match on the TV and see how >everyone suddenly becomes premiership manager >material. :-) Am I translating well, Lawry? (Although, I don't think they play much American football in Hungary). > >PS - Welcome to the list Ja, Isten hozott. Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 11:16 am Subject: Re: Tr: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Really? I thought it was a kind of joke - Sonambulistic, Sonic, Sound, Sonata... well this music does not really make me sleep... Fred > > > It is not SOMNANBULISTIC but SONAMBULISTIC. > >> > Sorry, you're wrong; the word is spelled correctly on the subject line, >no matter how it's spelled on the boot. It means sleepy by the way. Good >imagery. 8-) Dell > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 1:05 pm Subject: Tangents 1973 - 1983 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ingo_P=FCschmann?=' Hi ! Is someone looking for the 5 CD set 'Tangents 1973 -1983' (mint)? Please email me off the list. Ingo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 2:45 pm Subject: uncle ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean There used to be a nasty music critic in Chicago named Ernie who later went to write for Rolling Stone Magazine... I don't think he ever gave an album more than two stars... Perhaps tha's who he was talking about... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 2:47 pm Subject: Transiberian Railway ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean This is a new Soundtrack from 1997. Perhaps we will see the Northpole contest coincide with its release! ( ha ha)! MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 3:07 pm Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery Just to add fuel to the current discussion about TD's 'Focus the Facts' page, an articulate rebuttal to it which was posted in the TD guestbook yesterday was deleted when I checked back this morning. 'Fred Smith' (which he admitted was a pseudonym, for fear of retaliation) was arguing that the opinions of critics are just as valid as those of the artist, and that when the work of the artist isn't moving the listener, then it might just be because the music is not up to par, and not just because of intellectual laziness on the part of the critic. Meanwhile, all of the positive responses to 'Focus the Facts' remain up for all to see. This suggests to me that whenever Edgar uses the word 'blackmail' on the Focus the Facts page, he really means 'people offering a different opinion from mine'. Why offer a guestbook if the only messages you want are 'I've been listening to you since 1976 and I think you're just the coolest'? SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 4:04 pm Subject: RE: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Poulton, Larry' I must admit, I read 'Focus on Facts' with increduality. I does seem one sided. Essentially, I think all artists only like to hear praise and constuctive critisism is unobtainable. TD should be open 'critisism'. The stance of 'if you dont like it, dont buy it' really doesn't have much credence. What is an artist without an audience? We are all on the TD journey and as such all have valuable input to offer. There is a heluva lot of TD work I cant stand, but I tend to take the rough with the smooth. As artist they are continually trying different approaches and methods. What we really need to know is what their motivation is: is it to please themselves or please their audience? Therein lies the rub!!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: tadream@c... [SMTP:tadream@c...] > Sent: 27 March 1998 15:07 > To: tadream@c... > Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > > > Just to add fuel to the current discussion about TD's 'Focus the > Facts' > page, an articulate rebuttal to it which was posted in the TD > guestbook > yesterday was deleted when I checked back this morning. 'Fred Smith' > (which he admitted was a pseudonym, for fear of retaliation) was > arguing that the opinions of critics are just as valid as those of the > artist, and that when the work of the artist isn't moving the > listener, > then it might just be because the music is not up to par, and not just > because of intellectual laziness on the part of the critic. > > Meanwhile, all of the positive responses to 'Focus the Facts' remain > up > for all to see. > > This suggests to me that whenever Edgar uses the word 'blackmail' on > the > Focus the Facts page, he really means 'people offering a different > opinion from mine'. Why offer a guestbook if the only messages you > want > are 'I've been listening to you since 1976 and I think you're just the > coolest'? > > > SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator > > T O P I X / Mad Dog > http://www.topix.com/~sean > > _____________________________________________________________ > This e-mail and any attachments have been virus scanned at the > Norton Rose gateway and found to be free of all known viruses. > _____________________________________________________________ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 9:16 pm Subject: Pink Years compilation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Burek <72241.2313@c...> Hello folks, Has anyone actually bought this 'Best of Tangerine Dream: The Pink Years' CD on Castle? I ask because there are 4 or 5 pre-1973 tracks/excerpts on this CD that are not on 'Dream Roots Collection' and was wondering if there was any remixed material on this CD that's not on Dream Roots. Edgar reworked a lot of the Pink Years stuff on Dream Roots, and I was wondering if he also did so for the tracks such as 'Atem' on here. Anyone know before I lay down money on another possibly useless compilation? John From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 9:00 pm Subject: Strange Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello, Tadreamers, This evening, I put 'Ambient Monkeys' (the CD) into my computer's CD player. It didn't work : the player said 'unrecognized disk'. Others discs work properly. It's the first time I have this message... Has it happenned to anyone else? Note also that line 13 of back cover is written with a fontsize a bit greater than others. So is second half of line 12 (credit EF/JF). This is a minor bug. Fred np : Silent Monkeys Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12421 Re: Strange Monkeys Dennis Nigbur Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 10:06 pm Subject: Dream Mix equipment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Glenn Reinicke I've been a long time TD fan and am starting to put together a home studio with computer, synths, etc. Was wondering what the consensus of opinion is on some of the drum machine hardware and software used on the Dream Mix album. Sure doesn't sound like the usual TR/TB equipment from Roland. Any suggestions would be appreciated. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 10:21 pm Subject: Re: Tr: 'Somnambulistic Imagery' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dave Lane' AOutland sez: /In a message dated 98-03-26 16:12:09 EST, you write: /<< / It is not SOMNANBULISTIC but SONAMBULISTIC. / >> / Sorry, you're wrong; the word is spelled correctly on the subject line, /no matter how it's spelled on the boot. It means sleepy by the way. Good /imagery. 8-) Dell Actually, somnambulism refers to walking in your sleep, which pretty much describes the TD stage presence. --Dave From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 10:54 pm Subject: Idea on how TD could 'improve' their live shows... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid Actually play some tunes... no no, just being facetious (or am I?) Given that they play a pretty much pre-programmed show, I don't think that's too likely to change soon. But, question is, how long does it take them to assemble such a program? Instead of simply putting together 1 program, why not 2 or 3 or 4, with different tracklists? God knows they've got enough output to make that feasible! Once they have that, they could put them on a rotation, or randomly choose which one it was going to be before a show, so at the very least, the fans who religiously follow them from concert to concert won't necessarily have to get the same pre-programmed show night after night. anybody else like this? Gabe Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12393 Re: Idea on how TD could 'improve' their live sho Greg Heil Sat 3/28/1998 3 KB 12396 Re: Idea on how TD could 'improve' their live sho Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 3/28/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 27, 1998 11:43 pm Subject: RE: EO and Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >> If you think this is bad, you should go to a good old British >> pub when there's a football match on the TV and see how >> everyone suddenly becomes premiership manager >> material. :-) > Am I translating well, Lawry? (Although, I don't think they play much > American football in Hungary). Yeah... perhaps I should have said 'soccer' on such a multi- national list.... But every walk of life has it's back seat drivers... we just have quite a few, albeit very qualified drivers on this list. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12394 Re: EO and Presets feldon@p... Sat 3/28/1998 3 KB 12400 Re: EO and Presets Tdune Sat 3/28/1998 2 KB 12442 Re: EO and Presets feldon@p... Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12401 Re: EO and Presets Jens Peschke Sat 3/28/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 12:01 am Subject: off topic: question for schulze fans ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> KS fans recently I picked up a KS double cd boot 'United States '83' put out by the same folks who did the ardem-o, me-rad and collected endings boots. since ks has never played in the us (to the best of my knowledge) this obviously can't be true. can anyone tell me which show this is? if so, please e-mail me off-list thanks lars Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12392 Re: off topic: question for schulze fans John Majka Sat 3/28/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 1:39 am Subject: Re: off topic: question for schulze fans ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka >KS fans >recently I picked up a KS double cd boot 'United States '83' put out by the >same folks who did the ardem-o, me-rad and collected endings boots. since >ks has never played in the us (to the best of my knowledge) this obviously >can't be true. can anyone tell me which show this is? if so, please >e-mail me off-list > >thanks >lars This show is actually an audience recording of the official CD releases 'Royal Festival Hall' volumes one and two, 9-10-1991. Why anyone would bother to put out an audience recording of a show which is already officially available with much better, professionally recorded sound is beyond my understanding. John Majka flossbac@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 3:45 am Subject: Re: Idea on how TD could 'improve' their live shows... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Of course they'll be miming...but we're TangZombies, and we'll be buying > their concert tix N-E-way, haha....we all complain that the concert > versions are too close to the studio ones...at least TD won't have any more > explaining to do! > > E-Man > np: Liquid Tension Experiment Admit it, we go because they blast our favorite music louder than anywhere else. That would be good enough for me to pay and make the trip. And TD has always been a show where the music comes before the performances. That's the way it should be, and the nature of the music fits that. In the USA, people like to see performances ie: Spice Girls, Back Street Boys, Yanni. People whom are more cultured to Classical might see a pianist in concet --whom still performs to an extent. But I think there's always that thrill where how much power is yeilded at the fingers.. and can bring a crowd down in agony with just a few loud excruciating notes. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 3:19 am Subject: RE: EO and Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:43 PM 3/27/98 -0000, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > >>> If you think this is bad, you should go to a good old British >>> pub when there's a football match on the TV and see how >>> everyone suddenly becomes premiership manager >>> material. :-) > >> Am I translating well, Lawry? (Although, I don't think they play much >> American football in Hungary). > >Yeah... perhaps I should have said 'soccer' on such a multi- >national list.... Well, I KNOW what American football is... =) football everywhere else on earth is Soccer. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: Presets and TD'90s ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: pal szatmari My thanks to Lawry, Andrew and Feldon for their remarks on my Preset message. Thanks also for your welcome, it felt really nice. So here I go again... I still support the freedom of any musician to use whatever means and forms they feel right to convey their thoughts. Has't it ever crossed your minds that perhaps it is all there in the music only it did not get to you? It may be that you identify TD with a certain direction in their career and you are not open enough to see the same spirit in their 90s compositions. (Why did they get so many Grammy nominations in the 90s, then?) There is something deep inside TD tracks that I cannot get from other musicians. Something that lives on from one track to another. And I think I would recognize that even on an UNPLUGGED TD album. Dream on! Paul From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 3:21 am Subject: Re: Idea on how TD could 'improve' their live shows... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > Given that they play a pretty much pre-programmed show, I don't think > that's too likely to change soon. But, question is, how long does it > take them to assemble such a program? Instead of simply putting together > 1 program, why not 2 or 3 or 4, with different tracklists? God knows > they've got enough output to make that feasible! Once they have that, > they could put them on a rotation, or randomly choose which one it was > going to be before a show, so at the very least, the fans who religiously > follow them from concert to concert won't necessarily have to get the > same pre-programmed show night after night. Yeah, the same party-van people shouldn't be subject to 'Melrose' for an opener and 'Ghazal' for the closer EVERY SINGLE TIME...! Let's make it even easier for Ed & J...backstage they'll have three CD players (one for initial use, two for backup). Frontstage, Jerome and Ed will have the remote controls resting on their Korgs. The CD player(s) will each have 20 disc magazines, so WHAM! A totally spontaneous TD concert! ED: 'Let's do 'Silver Scale' from TANGENTS.' JEROME: 'OK, and then 'Bride In Cold Tears' from TYRANNY.' ED: 'Bingo!' Of course they'll be miming...but we're TangZombies, and we'll be buying their concert tix N-E-way, haha....we all complain that the concert versions are too close to the studio ones...at least TD won't have any more explaining to do! E-Man np: Liquid Tension Experiment From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 12:11 pm Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: stefan@b... (Stefan Stapelberg) On Mar 27, 7:07, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ally-From: Sean Montgomery > > Just to add fuel to the current discussion about TD's 'Focus the Facts' > page, an articulate rebuttal to it which was posted in the TD guestbook > yesterday was deleted when I checked back this morning. 'Fred Smith' > (which he admitted was a pseudonym, for fear of retaliation) was [...] > This suggests to me that whenever Edgar uses the word 'blackmail' on the > Focus the Facts page, he really means 'people offering a different > opinion from mine'. Why offer a guestbook if the only messages you want > are 'I've been listening to you since 1976 and I think you're just the > coolest'? Sean, all entries in the TD guestbook, which are either anonymuous or which contain offending statements, will be removed by me in accordance with the TD office. This is so to be further able to offer such a guestbook under aspects of legality in the future. If you have to say something, specify your real name. In this case the message is not going to be removed (if it does not fall into the other category), no matter whether it contains positive or negative ciritcism. Remember, I own this computer and the Internet connection. Maintaining the TD site is my hobby. I do this in my spare time. Beside a lot of time I also spent a lot of money due to the large files on the server. Therefore, in the last instance, I - and only I - decide what's being stored on this machine, since I not only pay for it, but also have the legal responsibility here in Germany for what's being published on the whole site (even if it's not my data). This is one - but not the only - reason why we accept no anonymuous postings. If you don't like this, open your own site, create a guestbook and go on for yourself! Best regards, Stefan PS: Yes, I blacklist even some hosts from accessing the whole site from time to time. For example, if some looser tries to grab the whole files (1.2 GB) from Netstore (TD's hosting service), which would raise my monthly volume bill for US $500, it automatically gets blacklisted for that session. However, I don't do this (yet) on an automatically base with the TD guestbook. I would be sorry if I would have to add IP logging to the guestbook in order to automatically identify at least the sitename of anonymuous posters. But no doubt, if it is mis-used by some 'Fred Smith' or 'Emil Dat' and other bozos any further (in this case, it even was a comment on a statement about such mis-use), I will do so, whether you like it or not. PPS: Do not reply with 'Free Speech' arguments; you have free speech: on the street, on the beach, in your home, on the Internet - but not on my system _IF_ you remain anonymuous or post offending statements. It's just that easy. -- Stefan Stapelberg Fon: +49-9352-89948 RENT-A-GURU (TM) Fax: +49-9352-89949 P.O. Box 1358 http://www.netstore.de/ D-97803 Lohr/Main Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate!! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12404 Re: edgar and td facts page Sean Montgomery Sat 3/28/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 1:51 pm Subject: pink years, another worthless comp ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> yes John, the pink years is just another worthless comp. but this time it is an official one, done for castle by TDI; edgar produced it (but there's no reworking/tangentizing) and jerome dqc mastered it... it doesn't seem to use the castle essential remastered material so perhaps they see dqc as an alternative to SBM etc... the best thing about 'the pink years' is what edgar writes in the liner notes... I've seen this in stores for $20 but CDnow has for it for 9.99 + .99 postage now, the cleopatra 2cd set is not remastered either but it comes in a nice slipcase with a poster (ooh boy!) for $19.99 (at CDnow) and it has more material... lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 3:47 pm Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: stefan@b... (Stefan Stapelberg) > > all entries in the TD guestbook, which are either anonymuous or which > contain offending statements, will be removed by me in accordance > with the TD office. This is so to be further able to offer such a > guestbook under aspects of legality in the future. Thanks, Stefan to for clarifying this. I'm not in favor of anonymous messages, I think they are against free speech. ---Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 3:04 pm Subject: Re: EO and Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tdune In a message dated 98-03-27 22:19:26 EST, you write: << Well, I KNOW what American football is... =) football everywhere else on earth is Soccer. >> You are wrong, what in the United States is called soccer, is called football everywhere else on earth. Marcelo G. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12442 Re: EO and Presets feldon@p... Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 3:21 pm Subject: Re: EO and Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Tdune > ><< Well, I KNOW what American football is... =) > football everywhere else on earth is Soccer. >> > >You are wrong, what in the United States is called soccer, is called football >everywhere else on earth. He, he, he. Dudes, you´re both saying *exactly* the same !!! Makes me not wondering. C S you know what I mean, eh ? Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 7:09 pm Subject: D: TD: The Analogue Space Years 1969-1973 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD DISC 01 Ashes To Ashes Zeit Atem Green Desert Genesis DISC 02 Alpha Centauri Astral Voyager Wahn Circulation Of Events Nebulous Dawn I got this one @ CDnow This is packaged in one of those 2 in 1 jewel boxes with a cardboard slip cover. The artwork is retro 60's. Inside is a poster with a B&W pic of Froese/Franke/Baumann posed in front of their equipment (patch cords.....yow!) Dave Thompson's liner notes are nice. but all in all this one's a compilation. DreamHeads & Completists will like this one. Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: The 'Fred Smith' Note Removed from the TDI Site Guestbook cc: Stefan Stapelberg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:07:25 -0800 (PST) >Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >Just to add fuel to the current discussion about TD's 'Focus the Facts' >page, an articulate rebuttal to it which was posted in the TD guestbook >yesterday was deleted when I checked back this morning. 'Fred Smith' >(which he admitted was a pseudonym, for fear of retaliation) [. . .] 'Articulate,' eh? Then, it's really too bad that the guy who wrote it posted it anonymously and it got removed--because I would have loved to have seen it. Is there any way, do you think, that we could get ahold of a copy of it to re-post *here*? >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:11:14 +0100 >Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page >Really-From: stefan@b... (Stefan Stapelberg) > >all entries in the TD guestbook, which are either anonymuous or which >contain offending statements, will be removed by me in accordance >with the TD office. [. . .] Okay. >Maintaining the TD site is my hobby. I do this in my spare time. Beside >a lot of time I also spent a lot of money due to the large files on the >server. Therefore, in the last instance, I - and only I - decide what's >being stored on this machine [. . .] Gotcha. It's *your* site, not TD's, so you get the 'last say,' in a sense. How about *this*, then? Would you object to my putting a message in the guestbook that asks that this 'Fred Smith' re-post his previously-anonymous message to the guestbook *signed*, and/or at least send a copy of the anonymous (i.e. unsigned) version to the tadream mailing list? -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 8:07 pm Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > all entries in the TD guestbook, which are either anonymuous or which > contain offending statements, will be removed by me in accordance > with the TD office. This is so to be further able to offer such a > guestbook under aspects of legality in the future. Stefan, I totally understand the spirit of this argument. I have a guestbook on my webpage, and if someone anonymously posted racial slurs or flat-out lies on it, I would feel compelled to remove them. But in 'Fred Smiths' case, I saw no reason for this harsh reaction. There are many anonymous entries in the guestbook, made by the likes of 'Long time T.D. fan', 'A Wishful Thinker' and 'gemini'. It was only because of the indignant tone of the 'Focus on the Facts' page that my first reaction was to assume that 'Fred Smiths' posting was removed only because it offered an opposing view. The fact that he was *afraid* that it would be removed bothered me. Why should someone have to be afraid to share a valid point of view? There are, to be sure, legal arguments for banning anonymous postings with controversial content. But while I did not make a copy of the Smith message to refer to right now, I remember nothing in it that could be construed as a legal problem. Yes, I can see why the band would not want their guestbook turned into a soapbox of endless ranting and finger-pointing (much like, say, this mailing list). This happened in the past on the Cocteau Twins webpage, and the site administrator was indeed compelled to include IP addresses with posters' messages. Which is fine by me. The kinds of anonymous messages that I find problematic are usually made my cowards, and this ends their game. Yes, some fans will still say controversial things, but this never gets out of hand because obviously stupid remarks are quashed in the court of public opinion and social ostracism. Let me also say that none of this is a personal attack on you, Stefan. I merely like to debate issues that interest me. Sometimes, I argue for the fun of it, and I do it totally without malice. While I may, for instance, criticise the band's point of view in writing 'Focus the Facts', I continue to respect them as musicians. I can totally appreciate how much work that running even a small website involves, and I think that everyone who frequents the TD page appreciates the effort you're putting into it. I apologize if my remarks have angered you. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 8:49 pm Subject: Update TD page and New Trade list ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jupe Update TD page http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/home.htm New Trade list http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/trade.htm Dream on !!!!!!! -- ************************************************************* * La PAGINA de TANGERINE DREAM de JUPE * http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/home.htm mailto:jupe@c... * New SWAP List 3.0 , write me !!!!! * Nueva Lista de CAMBIO 3.0 , escribeme !!!!! * http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/trade.htm mailto:jupe@c... * PARA PARTICIPAR EN LA LISTA EN CASTELLANO TDFANS ESCRIBIR * A mailto:jupe@c... DREAM ON !!!!!!!!!!!! ************************************************************* From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: pal szatmari Reading Morgan's reply on Logos fade-in/fade-out, in which he provides the actual Logos playlist, I just thought you might be interested to know that at the Logos concert in Budapest (Oct 19,1982) one of the encores was KIEW MISSION. To my great regret I could not attend that concert :-( I was heart-broken! however the Hungarian State Radio broadcasted excerpts from it and I still have a shabby copy. Unfortunately it is in a quality almost unenjoyable, but I am listening to it right now :-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 18867 Re: Logos Christopher Robbin Thu 11/4/1999 1 KB 18869 Re: Logos Poulton, Larry Thu 11/4/1999 3 KB 18879 Re: Logos jon.schick@u... Thu 11/4/1999 2 KB 18883 Re: Logos Poulton, Larry Thu 11/4/1999 3 KB 18891 Re: Logos Patrik * Fri 11/5/1999 1 KB 18894 Re: Logos Jared White Fri 11/5/1999 2 KB 18940 Re: Logos Tony Walsh Sat 11/6/1999 4 KB 20600 Logos Derk Fri 1/28/2000 1 KB 33975 Logos Art Of Vision Fri 5/17/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: Re: Trans-what? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: pal szatmari To Elias I am on digest so I do not know if you have got a reply on this (chances are you have but in case you have not, here is what I can tell you:) Last year Edgar and Jerome were commissioned to make the soundtrack of a black and white movie about the Trans-Siberian railway. In order to get ideas they even took a ride on it (must have been quite an experience...) This info was put on the homepage last summer and you can find it in the news ticker. Let's prepare for another Hyperborea experience... Paul From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 10:37 pm Subject: (Almost)No TD content/ RMI Organ Harvest/ Sin(casi) contenido de TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Hi Today I gave a good listening on my main stereo to 'Organ Harvest' by Radio Massacre International...( I realize I haven't played in my main stereo until this time!, only with my portable player or CD-rom) Really i'ts growing on me. It's the best thing after TD's Ricochet I've heard ! ( and the best by RMI until now) Very nice sounds and atmosphere, some cool sequences ( specially track 4 'Rainy Day song'- 13 minutes of gliding ! Highly recommended if you line good old TD stuff. Regards Hola Hoy le he dado un buena escucha en mi estéreo principal a Organ Harvest por Radio Massacre International ( me doy cuenta de que no lo hasta no lo había puesto allí, solo en el CD portátil y en el CD-ROM) Cada vez me gusta mas. Es lo mejor que he escuchado desde Ricochet y lo mejor de RMI hasta ahora. Sonidos magníficos y atmósferas atractivas y algunas buenas secuencias. Me gusta especialmente la pista 4: Rainy Day song. ¡13 minutos planeando! Saludos/Regards ---Francisco Note to Tadream list: As you see there is a new Tangerine Dream e-mail list, this time in spanish. I wanted to comment this in both lists, that's the reason of this bi-lingual message. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: pal szatmari Which of you TaDreamers have dogs? I wonder how your dogs tolerate TD... One of mine retreats after the first few notes, while the other is not bothered even by the loudest parts EXCEPT Logos Red part. At that point she makes every effort to prevent evil forces from leaving the speakers :-) If your dog has failed at the watch-dog training, try this remarkable piece of music (I do not take responsibility for bites, though). All right, that is all from me for today. Paul Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12414 Re: Dogs and Logos Andrew J. Rozsa Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB 12415 Re: Dogs and Logos DJS Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB 12416 Re: Dogs and Logos AOutland Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB 12420 Re: Dogs and Logos Francisco Salgado C. Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB 12430 Re: Dogs and Logos ROGER HELLIWELL Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB 12437 Re: Dogs and Logos Rainer Rutka Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12433 Re: Dogs and Logos Marcel Engels Sun 3/29/1998 3 KB 12434 Re: Dogs and Logos Gabe Yedid Mon 3/30/1998 2 KB 12451 Re: Dogs and Logos Michael Fox Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 10:22 pm Subject: Re: edgar and td facts page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-28 15:19:49 EST, you write: << But in 'Fred Smiths' case, I saw no reason for this harsh reaction. There are many anonymous entries in the guestbook, made by the likes of 'Long time T.D. fan', 'A Wishful Thinker' and 'gemini'. It was only because of the indignant tone of the 'Focus on the Facts' page that my first reaction was to assume that 'Fred Smiths' posting was removed only because it offered an opposing view. >> let me ask a dumb question: if the person signed his name 'fred smith' , how can that be construed as anonymous? no comprendo... tom w np: robert fripp=exposure From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 10:30 pm Subject: Hoenig's THE BLOB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean www.neuharm.demon.co.uk/sh.htm Shows the S/T as being available for $46.20 (second hand)... I know somebody was looking for it (God knows why!) MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12436 Re: Hoenig's THE BLOB Vic Rek Mon 3/30/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 6:45 pm Subject: AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Ambient Monkeys: I can't stand those rythms and melodies even pulled out the classic zone which spoil the beauty of all this nature's expression : chirping birds and refreshing waves, wild wolves and freezing winds, ascending monkeys and sparkling streams. What a climax, when, at 36:59, those stupid women's choir stop, letting the entire musical space to a passing honking car which failed to run over a lost monkey from the great green and yellow jungle. Why all those insignificant (midi) pads, those trivial percussion in search of Hades, whereas the sound of Heaven is so close? Never, never do that again. np : A frog at the pond / track #3 : the water-lily From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 28, 1998 11:46 pm Subject: Tangerine Dream Midi Files ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' If you're interested in midi files, check out http://usctoux1.cto.us.edu.pl/~trzcionk/ It's bizzare! At first looks, there are potentially some great midi files... wait until you listen to them! There's dolphin dance (reggae version) big sleep in the search for hades (reggae version) white eagle (disco version) streethawk (seems like a polka version) It's all weird. The author must be on drugs. The funny thing is, they're put together pretty well. To cap it all off, the sute is in a foreign that I can't understand. (Polish I think). A surreal experience. Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13909 Tangerine Dream Midi Files Lawry Simm Sat 5/23/1998 3 KB 34612 Tangerine Dream Midi Files gilleshemery2002 Mon 7/1/2002 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 12:38 am Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 10:44 PM 3/28/1998 PST, Paul wrote: >Which of you TaDreamers have dogs? >I wonder how your dogs tolerate TD... >If your dog has failed at the watch-dog training, >try this remarkable piece of music (I do not take >responsibility for bites, though). Don't know about dogs, but when I listen to 'Zeit' I bite myself. :-) Andrew P.S. I am not allowed to listen to TD anywhere except in my car or in my office donwstairs, where dogs, women, and children never come. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 6:45 am Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: pal szatmari > > Which of you TaDreamers have dogs? > I wonder how your dogs tolerate TD... > > One of mine retreats after the first few notes, > while the other is not bothered even by the > loudest parts EXCEPT Logos Red part. At that point > she makes every effort to prevent evil forces from > leaving the speakers :-) > > If your dog has failed at the watch-dog training, > try this remarkable piece of music (I do not take > responsibility for bites, though). > > All right, that is all from me for today. > > Paul Dogs & TD!?!?!? Come on guys! That's it...I'm apologizing to Elana so I can go back to Goldtri. ;-p Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 5:47 am Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-28 16:46:45 EST, you write: << Which of you TaDreamers have dogs? I wonder how your dogs tolerate TD... >> I have a Doberman who just loves Catwalk. Within 2 seconds he is singing along quite in tune with it. Actually, there are several TD compositions he will start howling to; in fact, to play most of the music at all and be able to hear it, I have to put him outside or in the bathroom. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 24, 1998 2:46 am Subject: Another contriversal album? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel Just re-reading through the FAQ on the TD homepage the other day and came up on this one >43. Is there any plan by the band to use a singer again for one of their upcoming >studio albums, because I don't agree with those fans who complained about using >human voices and lyrics in TD's music? 'Tyger' is still one of my favorite albums. > The new studio album, which has been released in September '96, does not have >any lyrics on it, but TD have been working for over a year now, composing and >arranging a 3 hour musical play which will be performed probably for the first >time in Australia in 1998. This play will have full choir and quite a few solo >voices. ^^^^ Anyone know if this is still the plan, looks like we may have another Tyger or Cyclone coming our way this year... -Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 10:04 am Subject: Re: sites for TD midi files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Andre.Knuth@f... tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Ben Ohmart > > Any web or ftp sites have TD midi files? Thanks. http://kwest.net/multi-media/sound/midi/sequences/General_Midi/bands-t/Tangerine\ Dream/ have fun ... André Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12444 Re: sites for TD midi files? feldon@p... Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 10:07 am Subject: Discusssion Threads ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Seeing as we have to postpone the D:live for a week or two, I thought I would give you all another chance to comment on TimeSquare, especially as no-one has posted any comments yet! (Though my reminder was late due to my visit to Alpha Centauri). I'll post my own review later today to get the ball rolling. For the new people on the list, the weekly discussion threads are a means of steering discussions with a specific topic in mind. Though, reading the last couple of week's posts, this doesn't always happen. Anyone and everyone can post their comments on the weekly thread, so all you lurkers get your fingers out and get posting. We're all very interested in your comments. We are currently running an addendum for the main TD studio albums, which was to fill a gap to allow the tape trees to distribute material prior to the next major set of discussion threads, which will be entitled D:Live and will cover live shows, tours, bootlegs, and official live releases. I'll be posting the schedule before we start. Please do take part. Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 3:32 pm Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: DJS > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: pal szatmari > > > > Which of you TaDreamers have dogs? > > I wonder how your dogs tolerate TD... My dog likes to stay with me while I listen to the music, TD included, no matter how loud I set my stereo. He never had any other reaction besides sleeping. > > Dogs & TD!?!?!? Come on guys! That's it...I'm apologizing to Elana so I > can go back to Goldtri. ;-p Seriously I unsigned recently because I didn't like the way Elana manage the list- your case made me think. there is no democracy there just Elanas decision. I don't want to be in a list like that. Besides, there is another list where you are able to talk about E-music with freedom ( space-music) without having to think whether the artist fits that stupid 'gold-tri' standard or not. Jesus!, what does she eat to be so close-minded? (no flames intended, just an opinion) --Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 2:40 pm Subject: Re: Strange Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:00:11 +0100 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' > > > Hello, Tadreamers, > > This evening, I put 'Ambient Monkeys' (the CD) into my computer's CD player. > It didn't work : the player said 'unrecognized disk'. Others discs work > properly. It's the first time I have this message... > > Has it happenned to anyone else? It happened to me with 'Quinoa'. Could it be anything to do with the single-track nature of those CDs? Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 3:12 pm Subject: tape trees #3+4, call for participation (#1+2 update) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Dreamers Tape trees #3&4 are now being organized! the tape list is attached below; Again, this is a NO-Profit deal for anyone. ***All levels of participation are welcome, even if you have nothing to trade.*** If you can't make copies, then just sign up as a leaf. We want everyone possible to be able to hear this music. If you want to participate, please contact tom w. with the following info: 1) name 2) e-mail address 3) your geographical location (city, state, country -- for organizational purposes) 4) at what level you want to participate (eg source, digital branch, analog branch, leaf) what resources you have (eg: a cdr burner--if so, can you do analog->digital?; DAT cloning; analog dubbing deck or 2 MC decks; or only digital->analog [ie: CD to MC]) 5) can you provide masters, lo-gen tapes, CD/R boots, etc for this tree? you will need to either provide trade material to your source or will need to provide sufficient blank tape and an SASE for return of the tapes. Branch-branch deals should use priority mail postage. --> if you still owe blank/trade tapes to your parent/branch trees #1+2, please make good on your obligation so that you can continue to participate in these trees ------------------------------------------------------------ Abbreviations and Format: Month.Day.Year City (Venue) Time (Medium of original source) Original sources: Au = audience; SB = soundboard; FM, TV = broadcast; Vid.= Video; Media (self-explanatory?): MC = cassette tape; LP -= vinyl; CD; CDR; Vid = video; LD (laser disc) ------------------------------------------------------------ tree 3 (2c90s + c100) --> c90 #1 8.16.75 Orange (Festival Pop d'Orange, Theatre Antique et Gymnase) 59 min. (Au) MC (4th generation; Oranges From France; Seekers of Dreams) 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) full encore 20 min. (Au) MC PLUS: --> c90#2: 9.23.75 Reims (Opera House) 85 min. (Au) MC PLUS: --> c100#1 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) 100 min (Au) MC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - tree 4: (3c90s) --> c90#1 2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University) 105 min (Au) MC (3rd gen) PLUS --> c90 #2 11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) MC (2nd gen.) PLUS --> c90 #3: 6.27.76 Berlin (Philharmonic) 33 min. (FM) CDR (The Dream Is Not Always The Same [best]; Danger Live, part 2; Tape Trax 2) 2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University) 105 min (Au) MC (--part 2) 11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) MC (--part 2) --------------------------------------------------------------------- NB: update for tape trees #1+#2 the European and digital branches are now moving. the package with the tapes had been detained, inspected and --finally-- released by customs after a few weeks delay. If you haven't heard from your branch/parent, expect to be contacted shortly. once these tapes have been distributed, we'll start the D:LIVE! discussions Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12435 Re: tape trees #3+4, call for participation (#1+2 TWeibre361 Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12439 Re: tape trees #3+4, call for participation (#1+2 TWeibre361 Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 3:39 pm Subject: Electro Beats again!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Hi folks Just noticed the updated Official KS Website (KDM's) regarding KS appearance on the forthcoming Olaf Zimmermann's Electro Beats programme on April 6th. It only mentions an interview, without details of any new music to be broadcasted. Hilmar, will you offer your nice help again this time? :))) It says KS will give interviews from April 5 - 7 to the Berlin media, so Berliners please look out for the others. Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 4:01 pm Subject: Hungarian Concert Poster ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Hi folks A few days ago Richard Bilek asked something about the Tournado CD booklet. While I cannot answer his question, I found something else worthy of interest for collectors of TD paper memorabilia. On the third last page of the booklet were eight b & w photos. There's one (bottom central) showing Edgar signing a poster. Now with the corresponding ticket in my hand, I can confirm this poster is the Hungarian Concert Poster (April 22, 1997) bearing the same picture as the ticket. Another photo on the top right shows a supposedly German concert poster. Without a magnifying glass, I could only guess this one to be the Erlangen concert poster (April 13, '97). I did attend this concert but had no luck to get it :( Whoever has the said posters to offer please let me know :) BTW, Tournado is now also available as a Japanese CD, catalogue no. is VPJ 038 Voiceprint Japan. Happy hunting... Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 4:04 pm Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #235 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1 I have a DESTINATION BERLIN AND DEAD SOLID PERFECT CD for sale. They are getting hard to find, I couldn't get more from any of my usual US sources. If you're interested in either, please email me off list asap. THanks. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 5:11 pm Subject: tape trees: dubbing hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Even though many of you probably don't need to hear this, I have been asked to post a short list of hints to help people make better dubs: 1) UNPACK your tapes. this doesn't just mean taking the wrapping off ;-) put new tapes in your deck and fast forward and rewind them one time to loosen the tape spool. sometimes the tight factory winding will cause some decks to drag or stop. this is especially the case for you live tapers using battery decks ;-) 2) use good quality tapes. Maxell XLII tapes are generally a standard although TDKsa tapes are also quite good (and a few seconds longer); there are also better quality / audophile tapes as well such as XLIIS and denon #s 8,9,10 etc. etc. 3) metal tapes are also fine just make sure they are compatible with your leaf's deck; also, if you dub deck-to-deck try not to increase the levels going into a metal tape since some dubbing decks don't have bias control and will create dubs on CRO2 which are too hot... 4) demagnetizers are recommended after about 20 hours of recording ... buy one and use it at least every 2-3 tapes before magnetic build up on the heads becomes noticeable. 5) buy and use wet and/or dry cleaners at least every 2 tapes -- or use another method if you know how (like isopropyl alcohol and a good, tightly rolled swab that won't leave little threads and fibers in your tape mechanism). Be sure that whatever you use cleans the capstan, rollers, etc and not just the heads. 6) if you have any doubts about your decks, get them cleaned and calibrated professionally (and make sure to have the speed checked) 7) watch your recording levels and please DON'T make high-speed dubs... especially since they are much more vulnerable to added EM interference (like from a TV) 8) don't introduce dolby (unless at the request of a leaf / end user) or any compression system (like DBX for you old timers ;-) 9) check and replace your patch cords. if your patch cords are more than 2 years old, chances are they need to be replaced before they become fossilized ;-) if you live near the ocean, have salt-water fish tanks (don't laugh, it's true ;-) or live in a corrosive atmosphere, you'll need to check and replace your patch cords at least every 6 months. if you have any doubts about them, replace them. 10) if you are in the tape trees for the long haul, you'll get a better deal buying tapes in bulk packages. around my parts, Sam's Club and Tower seem to have the best prices for Maxell; if you are buying a bunch of tapes (like 50+), ask the manager for a bulk discount too (you might be surprised ;-) if they won't give you one, find someone who will. lars ... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12440 Re: tape trees: dubbing hints Plumer, Scott Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 6:28 pm Subject: Emusic lists & their owners...was Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > > > > Dogs & TD!?!?!? Come on guys! That's it...I'm apologizing to Elana so I > > can go back to Goldtri. ;-p > > Seriously I unsigned recently because I didn't like the way Elana manage > the list- your case made me think. Wish more of you would to get the point across instead of bitching about it in private emails. Francisco...you are an inspiration heh heh. there is no democracy there just > Elanas decision. I'd have to agree with that. Even though I get dozens of emails agreeing with me I have yet to really see any of them actually publicly agree or do anything about it. Of course it's because they don't want to get bounced from the list...but it tells you just how strongly people stand behind their thoughts and opinions. I don't want to be in a list like that. Actually....you are. Tadream is quite limited to the discussion of TD. Of course, that's understandable...it's a TD list. Now Goldtri on the other hand is an emusic list undedicated to a specific band...so ALL types of emusic should fit in there. The largest problem is the powertripping egotistical list owners (Dave Datta excluded by far...who watches and makes rational decisions as the wise wizard Gandalf, adorned with the ancient pointy wizard hat and oak staff given to him thousands of years ago...hehe). Elana isn't the only listowner to act the way she does. I think it stems from IRC chat rooms, where people can create a room and become the 'god' of that room, if you will. Some people, like Dave, just do their job & maintain members when they have to. Others relish in the arbitrating of this or that....as if their opinions are the only ones that count (ugh, cough, Elana). I think the real owners of the list are the people in it. They truly decide what goes down. If you have no listmembers...there is no list. Besides, there > is another list where you are able to talk about E-music with freedom > ( space-music) without having to think whether the artist fits that > stupid 'gold-tri' standard or not. Uh, well, there is a Tangerine Dream standard here. It's essentially the same thing, isn't it? & space music? No thanks heh heh. No undefined washes of sounds for me....give me melody baby! Jesus!, what does she eat to be so > close-minded? (no flames intended, just an opinion) > --Francisco Chocolate muffins and gourmet-brewed beer. Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12432 Re: Emusic lists & their owners...was Re: Dogs an Francisco Salgado C. Sun 3/29/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 7:32 pm Subject: CYBERTRACKS interview to edgar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Hi I've made available a jpeg copy of this interview for those TD item collectors it's in my page for a while http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fsalgado/cybertr.zip regards --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 7:16 pm Subject: Re: Radio Station ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland Someone on this list contacted me about the radio station in Maryland/DC area that plays TD music. I have that information finally. Will you please re- contact me off list? Aoutland@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 8:13 pm Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ROGER HELLIWELL' >Really-From: pal szatmari > > > >Which of you TaDreamers have dogs? >I wonder how your dogs tolerate TD... > >One of mine retreats after the first few notes, >while the other is not bothered even by the >loudest parts EXCEPT Logos Red part. At that point >she makes every effort to prevent evil forces from >leaving the speakers :-) > >If your dog has failed at the watch-dog training, >try this remarkable piece of music (I do not take >responsibility for bites, though). > >All right, that is all from me for today. > >Paul No dogs...although my cat really, really, really dispises the opening to 'Lamb with Radar Eyes' from Goblin's Club. With the surround sound on, she doesn't which speaker to attack first... Roger Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12437 Re: Dogs and Logos Rainer Rutka Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 8:30 pm Subject: GROOVE Unlimited ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' I'm nor sure if this site has been posted, but there are some ineteresting CD's listed. http://mcs.nl/groove/latest.html Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 8:32 pm Subject: Re: Emusic lists & their owners...was Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: DJS >> I don't want to be in a list like that. > > Actually....you are. Tadream is quite limited to the discussion of TD. > Of course, that's understandable...it's a TD list. Now Goldtri on the I've never feel uncomfortable when discussing other e-musician here, although I knew it was off topic I always felt tolerance. > Besides, there > > is another list where you are able to talk about E-music with freedom > > ( space-music) without having to think whether the artist fits that > > stupid 'gold-tri' standard or not. > > Uh, well, there is a Tangerine Dream standard here. It's essentially the > same thing, isn't it? & space music? No thanks heh heh. No undefined > washes of sounds for me....give me melody baby! Well, Tadream has not any 'standard' just a topic. As for space, well, not all e.miusicians are alike and undefined washes well done are fantastic. Some artists discussed in space-music are great musicians such as Steve Roach, Robert Rich, Patrick O'Hearn etc. ( not to mention Klaus Schulze) and all of them do electronic music. Regards ---Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 8:59 pm Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' No dogs here either. But my cat generally doesn't like EM-music. She gets all nervous and walks to the speakers and then walks upstairs. Especially with the high tones (Kitaro-like solos) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12434 Re: Dogs and Logos Gabe Yedid Mon 3/30/1998 2 KB 12451 Re: Dogs and Logos Michael Fox Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12454 Re: Dogs and Logos John M. Poer Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12490 Re: Dogs and Logos Michael Fox Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 12:32 am Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid Got no pets... But I'm pretty sure that if I had any, they'd react to TD the same way the rest of my family does. Now, for an interesting twist: anybody have any *frogs* ? How do they react to TD music? Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 1:35 am Subject: Re: tape trees #3+4, call for participation (#1+2 update) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-29 10:15:37 EST, you write: << If you want to participate, please contact tom w. with the following info: >> quick note....if u are already signed up for 1 and 2 , u are automatically signed up...tell me if u want OFF... also, if there is anyone in the usa that wants to be a branch leader for digital copies (cdr, dat, whatever u people use) PLEASE get in touch...u gotta commit though...basically, i need one person in the usa who can do digital for others in the usa... also, all you participants have been great...its all about communication, contact, trust, and all that sappiness....and the music of course....we're only at 75....another 22 years coming up...wait till 77...and 82...and 86....kudos to lars for being a trooper...DUB ON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tom w np: CAN CAN CAN CAN CAN CAN CAN = hannover 69..............CAN CAN CAN From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 4:19 am Subject: Re: Hoenig's THE BLOB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Michael A Jean >Shows the S/T as being available for $46.20 (second hand)... Well, I can sell you my mint copy of THE BLOB movie if you'd like? It's on VHS NTSC format and can be had for about $15 (post incl in USA). Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 11:02 am Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rainer Rutka > ....rom Goblin's Club. With the surround sound on, she > doesn't which speaker to attack first... > Roger Does it mean GC is in surround ? Only this one ? Rainer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 3:01 pm Subject: Modulations ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' A film was showing at the Cleveland International Film Festival this weekend called 'Modulations.' It was billed as a documentary of the history of electronic music. Unfortunately, I was unable to see it. Has anyone seen it? Any TD? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 3:02 pm Subject: Re: tape trees #3+4, call for participation (#1+2 update) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-29 20:37:20 EST, you write: << quick note....if u are already signed up for 1 and 2 , u are automatically signed up...tell me if u want OFF... also, if there is anyone in the usa that wants to be a branch leader for digital copies (cdr, dat, whatever u people use) PLEASE get in touch...u gotta commit though...basically, i need one person in the usa who can do digital for others in the usa... also, all you participants have been great...its all about communication, contact, trust, and all that sappiness....and the music of course....we're only at 75....another 22 years coming up...wait till 77...and 82...and 86....kudos to lars for being a trooper...DUB ON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> forgot to mention that the sign up for this tree ends friday, april 3...tree will be posted over the weekend and my understanding is that the tapes will be shipped to branch leaders on monday...so stock up on blanks and spend some time on ur trade lists...remember that anything is tradeable...this is ur chance to get spice girl remixes, porno movies, ticket stubs, td lighters, etc etc.... tom w np: dub syndicate - pounding system From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 3:11 pm Subject: RE: tape trees: dubbing hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >10) if you are in the tape trees for the long haul, you'll get a better >deal buying tapes in bulk packages. around my parts, Sam's Club and Tower >seem to have the best prices for Maxell; if you are buying a bunch of tapes >(like 50+), ask the manager for a bulk discount too (you might be surprised >;-) if they won't give you one, find someone who will. Or, you may want to try out Terrapin Tapes, which carries a full range of tapes, incl. DAT, plus cords & other accessories. They have great prices on tapes in quantity. They're at http://www.terrapintapes.com. They have an 800 number as well. Let me know if you want thins and I'll get it for you. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 3:13 pm Subject: RE: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Now, for an interesting twist: anybody have any *frogs* ? How do they >react to TD music? Don't know about frogs but my friend's hemp plants lose their tops when he listens to TD. :-) Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12443 Re: Dogs and Logos Gabe Yedid Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 3:10 pm Subject: Re: EO and Presets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:04 AM 3/28/98 EST, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: Tdune > > >In a message dated 98-03-27 22:19:26 EST, you write: > ><< Well, I KNOW what American football is... =) > > football everywhere else on earth is Soccer. > >> > >You are wrong, what in the United States is called soccer, is called football >everywhere else on earth. I know this. I didn't state it very clearly. American football is a derivative of rugby. American soccer is known worldwide as soccer. Morgan feldon@p... > >Marcelo G. > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 3:56 pm Subject: RE: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > Don't know about frogs but my friend's hemp plants lose their > tops when he listens to TD. :-) > > Scott Really? All TD? or only certain eras? ;) I wonder if certain other species of Cannabis react in a similar way... maybe this shows that TD's music actually conditioned drugs out of their own systems! ;) Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 4:07 pm Subject: Re: sites for TD midi files? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 12:04 PM 3/29/98 +0200, you wrote: >Really-From: Andre.Knuth@f... > >tadream mailing list wrote: > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >> says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >> message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >> The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Really-From: Ben Ohmart >> >> Any web or ftp sites have TD midi files? Thanks. > > http://kwest.net/multi-media/sound/midi/sequences/General_Midi/bands-t/Tange rine Dream/ Amazing how people just copy each other's websites. My MIDI files are on this page, along with all the others which are on a list-member's page. I really don't mind, and I'm glad mine are not credited to me because they are wholly unfinished. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 4:21 pm Subject: Japanese Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Hi Forgot to give further details regarding the Japanese Tournado CD - it's actually the same TDI 008 CD plus the a Japanese paper strip and an insert with Japanese text. Price is at Yen 2,730. Go for it only if you are a hardcore fan... Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 7:13 pm Subject: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek I have a couple of questions: 1. Did TD tour at all in 1985? I saw mention somewhere of a concert date in the UK in 1985. 2. Does anyone know the going rate for the clear vinyl Fassbinder bootleg? I have heard of prices around $100, but that seems high if 3,000 copies were supposedly pressed? 3. Anyone have any LP pressings from Venezuela to offer or TD 8-track tapes? I wonder if any reel-to-reel tapes were released by TD? :-) Thanks, Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12447 Re: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder TWeibre361 Mon 3/30/1998 2 KB 12449 Re: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder Plumer, Scott Mon 3/30/1998 2 KB 12452 Re: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder Elias Granillo, Jr. Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12457 Re: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder Vic Rek Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12484 Re: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder Plumer, Scott Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 9:17 pm Subject: Re: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-30 14:30:45 EST, you write: << Anyone have any LP pressings from Venezuela >> i can get u argentine pressings easy enough...how many u need? tom w np: simple minds - neapolis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 8:46 pm Subject: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello again! I checked QUINOA and it worked properly in the CDROM player of my computer... The question is still open with Ambient Monkeys : can anyone tell me if it does work properly on one's computer? I think it will and only depends on the CD, but what is the very reason, eh? Note for those who didn't care the 2 lastest mails : QUINOA & AM are two one-tracked CD. So, I do not think it's the reason. Good night, everybody. Fred np : QUINOA! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12450 Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa John M. Poer Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12453 Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa Tom Gerardy Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12475 Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa Jens Kilian Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12491 Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa =?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWW Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 9:28 pm Subject: RE: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >1. Did TD tour at all in 1985? I saw mention somewhere of a concert >date in the UK in 1985. Vic, I'm appalled! You have a copy of my book! It clearly states they played NO live dates in '85. they were probably too busy: they did 5 soundtracks that year, plus a studio album, plus a compilation, plus Johannes left in October. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 9:45 pm Subject: Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 10:46 PM 3/30/1998 +0200, you wrote: >Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' > > >Hello again! > >I checked QUINOA and it worked properly in the CDROM player of my >computer... > >The question is still open with Ambient Monkeys : can anyone tell me if it >does work properly on one's computer? I think it will and only depends on >the CD, but what is the very reason, eh? > >Note for those who didn't care the 2 lastest mails : QUINOA & AM are two >one-tracked CD. So, I do not think it's the reason. > >Good night, everybody. > >Fred > >np : QUINOA! Both Qinoa and AM work just fine in my cd-rom reader. I checked after your first message. Forgot to answer your message, however :-). Could it be related to the 'autoplay' function (mine is set to ON)? Might also be related to make, speed and type (scsi or ide) of player. Bye. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 3:21 pm Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox My cats really dig the older TD. They don't get into the Private Music years at all and ToB sends them up the wall. They seem to think Oasis is good and go for Waterborne in a big way, but they think that Tournado is simply the studio cuts rehashed before an audience. Their favorite is Tangram. Miss Puss Puss has tried to send an entry to the guestbook on the webpage but her typing stinks! Mike oh yeah......BIG;-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12454 Re: Dogs and Logos John M. Poer Mon 3/30/1998 3 KB 12490 Re: Dogs and Logos Michael Fox Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 9:57 pm Subject: Re: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > >1. Did TD tour at all in 1985? I saw mention somewhere of a > concert > >date in the UK in 1985. > Vic, I'm appalled! You have a copy of my book! It clearly states > they played NO live dates in '85. they were probably too busy: they did > 5 soundtracks that year, plus a studio album, plus a compilation, plus > Johannes left in October. Plus, the studio material Edgar & Chris did, post-Johannes, in '85, some of which was shelved but saw daylight on disc 5 of Dreamroots :-))) E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 10:06 pm Subject: Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy Give more details as to what machine you are trying this on, maybe someone with similar hardware / software can try it. It works fine on the two computers where I normally play music. --tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 10:05 pm Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 03:21 PM 3/30/1998, you wrote: >Really-From: Michael Fox > > >My cats really dig the older TD. They don't get into the Private Music >years at all and ToB sends them up the wall. They seem to think Oasis is >good and go for Waterborne in a big way, but they think that Tournado is >simply the studio cuts rehashed before an audience. Their favorite is >Tangram. Miss Puss Puss has tried to send an entry to the guestbook on the >webpage but her typing stinks! > >Mike >oh yeah......BIG;-) Yeah well, I think my cat made his opinion quite clear....he peed on the speakers. Also got his tiny butt smacked. Now to try to clean it up. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12490 Re: Dogs and Logos Michael Fox Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 11:31 pm Subject: Focus FELDMANS facts ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS HI GANG! Just back from a trip to Chicago, and on my way to another. Surprise my eyes, all that has developed in my absence. While it was nice for our beloved Vikings (that's for Dano) to finally speak up, I admit I was as confused as many here on the list as to what the hell they where talking about. I did however get a charge out of Steves asking for Mr. Smith to repost his letter. Molassar's servant eh Steve? Anyhoo, good debate is why we are here. Personally I like the Blue Moon boot better than the Official release, and have made up my own tape compiling all the music with some dialog thrown in. I need the Logos track on MY Keep ST. It isnt the Keep without the Logos 2 track. Well I got a few LP's on my trip at a well used record hole in the wall. Finally found the early albums In The Beginning box set with Zeit, Alpha,Green Desert, etc. Paid the most for it too. $39.99 -it is in OK shape , but the albums are mint. Imagine my surprise when I got home and saw that someone wrote all over the discography on the last page adding the albums as they went along. IN PEN! In BAD penmanship!!! Jeez, did I pay too much for this? Can you still get a mint copy? Anyone? Also picked up Phaedra, and a copy of KS Dune , and Mindphaser. The Dune however has a diff cover than the reflective silver one I already have. Also got a few other electronic albums , and TD related LPS-Like Konrad Schnitzler. Anyhow, good to see the second tree leg is up , and more tunes on the way. Chris From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: No Re-Post Forthcoming from Frederick Smythe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Before I add any comments, this is what I just found on the TDI website: | From Frederick Smythe at Mon, 30/Mar/98 18:22: | To Steven and all other TD fans: Rest assured that my entry was not | removed because Fred Smith was a false name. However, this forum | belongs to Edgar & Jerome, and they are certainly free to do with it | as they please. It is sad that meaningful disagreement is squelched, | but no hard feelings from my side. To all who had seen and might reply | to my comments, please do not continue. I have no desire to engage in | an ongoing dialog over this, and clearly the owners of this site do | not wish to see it either. So, it seems that talking about what Fred said is moot, but then, the matter remains re his posting to the guestbook being 'anonymous.' It seems to me that the post was not anonymous--but rather that the poster did not give a contact (i.e. net-) address: he is not posting anonymously, he just doesn't want his *address* divulged. I don't see this and the matter of posting anonymously as being the same thing. -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 2:39 am Subject: RE: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > >1. Did TD tour at all in 1985? I saw mention somewhere of a >concert > >date in the UK in 1985. > Vic, I'm appalled! You have a copy of my book! It clearly states >they played NO live dates in '85. they were probably too busy: they did >5 soundtracks that year, plus a studio album, plus a compilation, plus >Johannes left in October. So why couldn't they squeeze in a tour also? ;-) Of course I have and read your book. I also have Voice in the Dunes and both mention that TD did not tour in 1985. I was just curious if they snuck in a show and everyone forgot? Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Conversion of Italian Lira to US Dollars? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Hi, I just got this quoted to me for a copy of AGES: | ITALIAN LIRA 40.000 PLUS SHIPPING. | AIRMAIL - LIT. 15.000 | SURFACE MAIL - LIT. 10.000 Can anyone decipher the above for me? -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12459 Re: Conversion of Italian Lira to US Dollars? Sean Montgomery Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 2:54 am Subject: Re: Conversion of Italian Lira to US Dollars? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I just got this quoted to me for a copy of AGES: > > | ITALIAN LIRA 40.000 PLUS SHIPPING. Hmmm....well, according to Yahoo's currency converter, 40,000 Lira is equivilant to $21.96 U.S. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 4:40 am Subject: Videos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' I am interested in obtaining any live, studio, or TV appearance videos of the group. Please mail me privately if you can help. Thanks in advance!!! Kevin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 6:11 am Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: AOutland > > In a message dated 98-03-30 17:10:53 EST, you write: > > << > Yeah well, I think my cat made his opinion quite clear....he peed on the > speakers. > > Also got his tiny butt smacked. > > Now to try to clean it up. > >> > This has been one of the funniest entries to this thread, but I'd like to > say also that the whole thread has been fun. Lighten up, Dano; What!?!? Me lighten up!?!? Heh, I was the king of lightening up until people cried on this very list about humor running rampant. we need humor > from time to time and this has been great. LMAO, Dell I agree...I wish a few months ago when Eli & I made more creative humor that we weren't lynched the way we were. My how hypocritical people are....aren't they? Personally, I think the observation that Nick Nolte & Edgar Froese never being seen in one place at the same time is more humorous than a cat pissing on speakers...but of course...that's just MO. Heh heh. Dano np: Watership Down (FINALLY after two decades....on cd!!!!) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 5:40 am Subject: subscribe tadream Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12749 Marek Mastalerz Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12820 jinsuk Kim Fri 4/10/1998 2 KB 13042 Marek Mastalerz Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13047 Re: TangerineC Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13068 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13059 Marek Mastalerz Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13070 Re: SRiser3600 Fri 4/17/1998 2 KB 13074 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13110 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 3:36 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Really-From: Jen Phillips Aha! Proof that there *are* female TD fans! Welcome to the list, Jen. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12464 Re: new member feldon@p... Tue 3/31/1998 5 KB 12465 Re: new member Greg Heil Tue 3/31/1998 4 KB 12467 Re: new member feldon@p... Tue 3/31/1998 4 KB 12466 Re: new member DAVENTURA Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12468 Re: new member Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/31/1998 4 KB 12470 new member Jen Phillips Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12483 Re: new member Plumer, Scott Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12501 Re: new member AOutland Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12502 Re: new member DAVENTURA Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 4:30 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:28 PM 3/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Jen Phillips > >Hi everyone! I just joined this list and thought I'd start out by >introducing myself. My name is Jen, and I'm from Pennsylvania, USA. >I'm 18 years old, and graduated from high school in 97. > >I don't know much about TD yet, but learn to learn alot from this >list. I first heard of them from someone on the Enigma mailing list, >and am quickly becoming a big fan. So far the only TD cd that I own is >The Private Music of Tangerine Dream, which I love. I ordered 4 other >ones from Columbia House and am waiting to get them. I don't remember >the names of them right now though. I think 1 of them may have been 220 >Volt Live. The 4 you are getting are probably 220 Volt Live, Turn of the Tides, Rockoon, and maybe Tyranny of Beauty. These are all from the 1990-1995 era. Yes, there are different eras to Tangerine Dream's long history. Below are all my opinion of course: (albums listed are the most known of this period) 1969-1973 Experimental Very experimental stuff. You probably won't like it on first listen... Atem, Green Desert 1974-1979 Ambient Years During these years, TD made use of the very first analogue synthesizers and keyboards. Phaedra, Rubycon, Stratosfear, Force Majeure, Encore Live 1980-1986 Sequencing During these years, TD embraced the brand new Years sequencing equipment. Most of their music was still created by analogue synths, etc. and tape loops. White Eagle, Exit, Logos, Poland 2CD, Hyperborea, Tangram 1987-1989 Melrose Years TD abandoned their analog equipment completely and went 100% digital. The Private music of Tangerine Dream (compilation) 1990-1995 Grammy Years TD brought on saxophone, guitar, drums, other woodwind instruments. They received 5 grammy nominations for this stuff. 220 Volt Live, Turn of the Tides, Rockoon, The Dream Mixes, Tyranny of Beauty 1996-pres ------------- In the past 2 years, TD has released very little new music. Most has been rereleases of their old stuff. Goblin's Club, Dream Mixes 2, Ambient Monkeys, Oasis soundtrack Tangerine Dream did the soundtracks for Legend, Sorcerer, The Keep, Miracle Mile, Streethawk (TV show), Firestarter, Risky Business, The Heartbreakers, Catch me if you Can, and others... >Any suggestions or info from anyone would be appreciated. And also, any >links to TD pages would be great! There's always the official Tangerine Dream website at www.tadream.de... Morgan feldon@p... p.s. Just wanted to see if I'm on the mark or not... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 3:52 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: Jen Phillips > > > Hi everyone! I just joined this list and thought I'd start out by > introducing myself. My name is Jen, and I'm from Pennsylvania, USA. > I'm 18 years old, and graduated from high school in 97. > > I don't know much about TD yet, but learn to learn alot from this > list. I first heard of them from someone on the Enigma mailing list, > and am quickly becoming a big fan. So far the only TD cd that I own is > The Private Music of Tangerine Dream, which I love. I ordered 4 other > ones from Columbia House and am waiting to get them. I don't remember > the names of them right now though. I think 1 of them may have been 220 > Volt Live. > > Any suggestions or info from anyone would be appreciated. And also, any > links to TD pages would be great! > > Hope to hear from ya all soon. > > -- > Jen Hi Jen!! I discovered TD when I was 18 also, in fact, with the same album that you mentioned! I graduated in 96' and I'm 19 now, but my list of TD items keeps on growing! One word of the wise, if you get some old TD albums, and hate them, don't worry--just hold on to them--you'll learn to love them eventually! Some very good TD albums to start with: 'Oasis' 'The Dream Mixes' 'Underwater Sunlight' 'Optical Race' 'Tangram' 'Melrose' Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12467 Re: new member feldon@p... Tue 3/31/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 3:58 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Jen writes: > So far the only TD CD that I own is > The Private Music of Tangerine Dream, which I love. OK guys, forget about Logos and the cats and dogs, we have a completely different thread now....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 4:50 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 08:52 PM 3/30/98 -0700, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > >> Really-From: Jen Phillips >> >> >> Hi everyone! I just joined this list and thought I'd start out by >> introducing myself. My name is Jen, and I'm from Pennsylvania, USA. >> I'm 18 years old, and graduated from high school in 97. >> >> I don't know much about TD yet, but learn to learn alot from this >> list. I first heard of them from someone on the Enigma mailing list, >> and am quickly becoming a big fan. So far the only TD cd that I own is >> The Private Music of Tangerine Dream, which I love. I ordered 4 other >> ones from Columbia House and am waiting to get them. I don't remember >> the names of them right now though. I think 1 of them may have been 220 >> Volt Live. >> >> Any suggestions or info from anyone would be appreciated. And also, any >> links to TD pages would be great! >> >> Hope to hear from ya all soon. >> >> -- >> Jen > >Hi Jen!! > > I discovered TD when I was 18 also, in fact, with the same album >that you mentioned! I graduated in 96' and I'm 19 now, but my list of TD >items >keeps on growing! One word of the wise, if you get some old TD albums, and >hate them, don't worry--just hold on to them--you'll learn to love them >eventually! >Some very good TD albums to start with: > >'Oasis' >'The Dream Mixes' >'Underwater Sunlight' >'Optical Race' >'Tangram' >'Melrose' Amazing how people have different ideas and opinions... 'Logos' 'Force Majeure' 'Oasis' 'The Dream Mixes' 'Livemiles' 'Poland 2CD' Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 4:59 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 10:28 PM 3/30/1998 -0500, Jen wrote: [.............] >Any suggestions or info from anyone would be appreciated. And also, any >links to TD pages would be great! Hello, Jen. Welcome to the list. As you will soon find out, various people have differring ideas of what they like or what they don't like about certain TD albums. Some of this you will have to discover on your own, because you will find a unique way of listening. It will be YOUR taste. Suffice is to say that you are about to embark on a journey of musical dreams which will change you. BTW, many of us on this list will fess up to having been changed by TD's music, if you ask them. Oh, yes, before you ask, and you will want to: the ages of the people on this list is from 15 to 55 and from 5 continents (I don't remember anyone from Africa or Antarctica, although some Morrocans, Egyptians or South Africans may have subscribed, without introducing themselves). You can start your virtual journey with the official TD home page at: http://www.netstore.de/tadream/ Others, in no particular order are: Conny Andersson's site: http://cbear.com/conny/music/td/eng/index.html Jupe's site: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/home.htm Morten Moen's site: http://home.sol.no/~mmoen/tadream/ Pawel Jachowicz' site: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~pavel/music/tadream.html Peter Ravn's site: http://www.dtv.dk/privat/pr/music.htm Simon Clarke's site: http://website.lineone.net/~simon.clarke/td.htm Stephan Bischoff's site: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/5464/tadream.htm Armin Theissen's site: http://aibn55.astro.uni-bonn.de:8000/~theiss (server down tonight) Some of these absolutely brilliant, most are quite infromative, and some are presented very estethically. I know you will enjoy yourself. Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 3:11 am Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-30 17:10:53 EST, you write: << Yeah well, I think my cat made his opinion quite clear....he peed on the speakers. Also got his tiny butt smacked. Now to try to clean it up. >> This has been one of the funniest entries to this thread, but I'd like to say also that the whole thread has been fun. Lighten up, Dano; we need humor from time to time and this has been great. LMAO, Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 3:28 am Subject: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jen Phillips Hi everyone! I just joined this list and thought I'd start out by introducing myself. My name is Jen, and I'm from Pennsylvania, USA. I'm 18 years old, and graduated from high school in 97. I don't know much about TD yet, but learn to learn alot from this list. I first heard of them from someone on the Enigma mailing list, and am quickly becoming a big fan. So far the only TD cd that I own is The Private Music of Tangerine Dream, which I love. I ordered 4 other ones from Columbia House and am waiting to get them. I don't remember the names of them right now though. I think 1 of them may have been 220 Volt Live. Any suggestions or info from anyone would be appreciated. And also, any links to TD pages would be great! Hope to hear from ya all soon. -- Jen jenmp@s... 'or' enigma2@g... Visit My Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/4032/index.html UIN: 1134643 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: LUMINOUS VISIONS, OASIS, and VIDEO DREAM MIXES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Hi, Groovy Guys 'n' Gals, I was over Lars' house the other day, shootin' the sh*t about TD and comparin' notes, as it were, and when he showed me some footage from the LUMINOUS VISIONS, OASIS, and VIDEO DREAM MIXES videos, it struck me that he and I should disagree so violently on the first two. (Guess what our immediate reaction to the third, i.e. VIDEO DREAM MIXES was, hee hee.) I hadn't seen anything from any of the three of them, so my reactions were all very spontaneous and organic. Lars first played about three-quarters of the OASIS video for me. As he is writing a dissertation on the psychology of religious art (or somesuch; forgive me Lars, for I not not of what you speak), his remarks came fast and furious re various dichotomies, but I merely noted that the union twixt visuals and music was a little more pronounced than in CANYON DREAMS. Admittedly, there were indeed some psychedelically-hued sequences, but I'm not sure I agree with Lars that each and every shot was impartially recorded: I assumed that color filters had been used to boost and/or alter some of the colors coming into the lens. Lars then popped LUMINOUS VISIONS into the VCR and--immediately-- I was close to swooning. I don't think I've said 'Oh, cool!' that many times since the late 70's. Really. Lars was in a snit, saying that the visuals almost never matched the pulse of the music, and that the imagery was purely voyeuristic and didn't draw the viewer in nor call attention to the nature of the edges of the visuala field (or something like that). I was too sucked-in by what I was watching to be critical, though, and I actually preferred the visual interpretations of the TD songs in LUMINOUS VISIONS to those in OASIS in just about *every* case. To me, a song has a melody, and a beat, and a rhythm--which makes a total of three different approaches a video can take to interpreting any given portion of a song. In this sense, I found very few gaffes in the LUMINOUS VISIONS video. This is THE item to expose trendy electronica types to, folks! And it's a keeper! Buy it! Buy it for friends! The VIDEO DREAM MIXES seemed like little more than glorified home movies, and I think it is perhaps best not to let on what I *really* thought about it, given that Lars thought the very same thing and he tends not to like portraying TD in a bad light in a public forum. ;) As a follow-up, I must admit that LUMINOUS VISIONS is the only TD compilation album featuring a complete lack of TANGENTS-izing that I have looked forward to and subsequently enjoyed playing. IMnsHO, the guy who decided to put 'Towards the Evening Star,' 'Rough Embrace,' and 'Catwalk (Black Ink Mix)' altogether in a row should be congratulated. It is because these three tracks--as well as 'Change of the Gods,' 'Sojus,' and 'Flashflood' are all on this CD that I was in such a hurry to buy it. I don't have a CD-changer, so it's great to have 'Towards the Evening Star,' 'Rough Embrace,' and 'Catwalk (Black Ink Mix)' all on one disc! Also, need I mention that for non-hardcore American TD fans, this will be the first time hearing 'Catwalk (Black Ink Mix),' 'Sojus,' and the two radio edits that were on the second disc of the UK version of THE DREAM MIXES? -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 6:50 am Subject: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Interesting thread, Andrew, think I'll perpetuate it. After listening to over a week's music on headphones (loudly), I can honestly say that my hearing capabilities have changed. I'm not sure that I can agree that music, TD in particular, can change a person. I mean, what are we talking about here, physiology? I guess I've changed from when I first started to listen to TD, which by the way, is approaching 20 years. I've put on a few pounds. Can I attribute this to TD? The music we listen to is the soundtrack of our lives. We change the music, the music doesn't change us....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12482 Re: How TD has changed ME Plumer, Scott Tue 3/31/1998 2 KB 12486 Re: How TD has changed ME DJS Tue 3/31/1998 4 KB 12519 Re: How TD has changed ME feldon@p... Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB 12527 Re: How TD has changed ME Gabe Yedid Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB 12492 Re: How TD has changed ME Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/31/1998 5 KB 12506 Re: How TD has changed ME Geir Smedsrud Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12498 Re: How TD has changed ME KRAUSENECKS Tue 3/31/1998 4 KB 12570 Re: How TD has changed ME pal szatmari Thu 4/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 8:30 am Subject: Attention, Vic and all home page owners ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Klaus Beschorner One slow morning with enogh time to browse thru tadream again- and still being appalled... Anyway... Many home pages of list members carry links to a jurassic version of my TD-bootlegography on pmcohen´s page. This is so outdated that it's just embarrassing. Anyone interested in an up-to-date version should download it (or link it to) http://www.wiesenhof.com/klaus/Td_boots.txt I have now separated the CDRs from the 'real' bootlegs. As for Vic's questions: >1. Did TD tour at all in 1985? I saw mention somewhere of a concert >date in the UK in 1985. Vic, you did the no-no-thing, you trusted a bootleg cover ;-) 'Electronic Inspiration' _claims_ to be 1985, but is UK 1986. >2. Does anyone know the going rate for the clear vinyl Fassbinder >bootleg? I have heard of prices around $100, but that seems high if >3,000 copies were supposedly pressed? Vic, you did another no-no-thing, not reading my old article ;-) A large part of the second pressing of 2000 was destroyed in a police bust, so there are some 1000-1500 copies around. They are old, and look and sound good, so people tend to stick to them. So, no big supply, so high prices. $100-150 is realistic (for 'mint' copies, of course). outta here... klaus Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12476 Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners Vic Rek Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12478 Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12480 Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12485 Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners DJS Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12488 Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 8:53 am Subject: wrong URL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen Hi, somebody wrote: > Armin Theissen's site: http://aibn55.astro.uni-bonn.de:8000/~theiss >(server down tonight) this link is really really old. Stoneage. It actually doesn't exist anymore. Hurry up to update all bookmarks to http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath/td/tadream.html please!!!!! armin Armin Theissen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Armagh Observatory email: ath@s... College Hill http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath Armagh BT61 9DG Phone: (+44) 1861 522928 N. Ireland Fax: (+44) 1861 527174 o/ \o_ \ / __ __o |o \__/o | o____ |__ __/ \__/o | / | / o\ / | > / \ /o\ o| << | \o__/ Ouch!!! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12479 Re: wrong URL Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 9:04 am Subject: Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jens Kilian > Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' > The question is still open with Ambient Monkeys : can anyone tell me if it > does work properly on one's computer? I think it will and only depends on > the CD, but what is the very reason, eh? It works perfectly in my BeBox ;-) Jens. -- mailto:jjk@a... phone:+49-7031-14-7698 (HP TELNET 778-7698) http://www.bawue.de/~jjk/ fax:+49-7031-14-7351 PGP: 06 04 1C 35 7B DC 1F 26 As the air to a bird, or the sea to a fish, 0x555DA8B5 BB A2 F0 66 77 75 E1 08 so is contempt to the contemptible. [Blake] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 1:28 pm Subject: Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: Klaus Beschorner > http://www.wiesenhof.com/klaus/Td_boots.txt > Vic, you did the no-no-thing, you trusted a bootleg cover ;-) > Vic, you did another no-no-thing, not reading my old article ;-) But Klaus, you did a good-good thing of reminding me and this list to check your listings again :-) Thanks for the info! BTW, it's been a long time since I've read a good reprimand from you, Klaus. I'm glad you're reading the list again ;-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 1:44 pm Subject: Luminous Visions Promo CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek I'm just opening up the Luminous Visions Video/CD set that I picked up for only $3.99 from CDNow (after applying $10 certificate given to me by a cool list member - right MJ?). I haven't played the CD or viewed the video, but I like the cover and the track lineup. Now some CD details: (Forgive me if I'm repeating this information) There is also an insert stating to check the TD website for upcoming 1998 US Tour dates. In addition, on the tray insert it states 'Promo CD - Not for Sale' and on the disk in tiny letters it states 'Demonstration Only - Not for Sale'. Are all of these CDs released like this? Does this imply that there will be a non-promo release? And if not, then why label it promo (versus 'this CD must not be sold separately') if it comes bundled with the video? And to complicate things more, the TD website gives a track listing for this with an extra track at the end 'Spanish Love'. Anyone have a different version? Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 2:52 pm Subject: Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 10:30 AM 3/31/1998 +0200, Klaus wrote: > >One slow morning with enogh time to browse thru tadream again- >and still being appalled... > >Anyway... Many home pages of list members carry links to a >jurassic version of my TD-bootlegography on pmcohen´s page. >This is so outdated that it's just embarrassing. Anyone >interested in an up-to-date version should download it >(or link it to) > >http://www.wiesenhof.com/klaus/Td_boots.txt > >I have now separated the CDRs from the 'real' bootlegs. Point well made, Klaus. I have taken a few minutes this morning to let each of the site owners know about the availability and location of the updated list. Unfortunately, Armin's site is still down, so I don't know if he has a link to the out-of-date reference. Let's hope this time your request doesn't fall on deaf ears. Best, Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 3:02 pm Subject: Re: wrong URL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 09:53 AM 3/31/1998 +0100, Armin wrote: >> Armin Theissen's site: http://aibn55.astro.uni-bonn.de:8000/~theiss >>(server down tonight) > >this link is really really old. Stoneage. It actually doesn't exist anymore. >Hurry up to update all bookmarks to > >http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath/td/tadream.html Sorry, Armin. Old site deleted from bookmarks. New site firmly entrenched. It's a terrific site. Thanks. Best, Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 3:06 pm Subject: Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Klaus Beschorner > > One slow morning with enogh time to browse thru tadream again- > and still being appalled... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry things aren't interesting enough for you, Klaus. But never fear, the following threads are due anytime, so please stay tuned: *Does The Keep lp really exist? (oh, sorry, Steven's already got that cookie long-a-bakin') *TD's cover of 'Greased Lightning' *Edgar arranging for a psychic to channel Jimi Hendrix so TD can do a *really* good version of 'Purple Haze' I hope that brightens your day. Like Bob Ross says, 'it's all fluffy, white clouds.' E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 29, 1998 9:03 pm Subject: No incoming mail.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' If anyone has been sending me mail, I am able to send out (SMTP server seems ok) but cannot get incoming mail (POP3 seems knackered.) Hopefully it'll all be sorted out within the next couple of days, but if you're waiting for a reply don't hold your breath. Apologies in advance... Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 4:34 pm Subject: RE: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >We change the music, the music doesn't change us....David I don't think so. I think music, TD's in particular, has definitely changed me, but I can't tell you how, since there isn't a control copy of me to compare it to. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 4:46 pm Subject: RE: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> Any suggestions or info from anyone would be appreciated. And also, any >> links to TD pages would be great! > I discovered TD when I was 18 also, in fact, with the same album >that you mentioned! I graduated in 96' and I'm 19 now, but my list of TD A match made in heaven! :-) Sorry. My suggestion: first, buy my TD book. :-) Then, buy more of the compilations, preferably one that spans a long time. Then use those to determine which TD tunes you like, and buy the albums that have those tunes on them. If you listen to the suggestions from us of which specific album to buy, you'll end up buy the whole catalog, since each of us has a different opinion. Once you've bought all the stuff that the comps are drawn from, you can unload the comps on the list. A word of warning, though: be prepared to buy A LOT! they have over 100 album, single and soundtrack releases. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 4:53 pm Subject: RE: 1985 Tour + Fassbinder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> >1. Did TD tour at all in 1985? I saw mention somewhere of a >>concert >> >date in the UK in 1985. >> Vic, I'm appalled! You have a copy of my book! It clearly states >>they played NO live dates in '85. they were probably too busy: they did >>5 soundtracks that year, plus a studio album, plus a compilation, plus >>Johannes left in October. >So why couldn't they squeeze in a tour also? ;-) Of course I have and read >your book. I also have Voice in the Dunes and both mention that TD did not >tour in 1985. I was just curious if they snuck in a show and everyone forgot? Well, most of their dates from the '80s on seem pretty well-documented (except Athens '84! Argh!), so I'd be very surprised if they did play live. A one-off show is possible, but I've seen no mention of it. And now that I think about it, I think the '86 tour book mentions that they hadn't played live since '84 in Athens. You could try the guestbook, though. I asked if they made it to the Doctor Music Festival last year, because they were on the bill with another of my fave bands, Phish, but they said their appearance was cancelled. Darn. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 7:12 pm Subject: Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > - > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: Klaus Beschorner > > > > One slow morning with enogh time to browse thru tadream again- > > and still being appalled... > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Sorry things aren't interesting enough for you, Klaus. But never fear, the > following threads are due anytime, so please stay tuned: > > *Does The Keep lp really exist? (oh, sorry, Steven's already got that > cookie long-a-bakin') > *TD's cover of 'Greased Lightning' > *Edgar arranging for a psychic to channel Jimi Hendrix so TD can do a > *really* good version of > 'Purple Haze' > > I hope that brightens your day. Like Bob Ross says, 'it's all fluffy, white > clouds.' > > E-Man You forgot to mention that next week we will be discussing the effects of construction workers who listen to TD on the job. Is Rubycon the best album for those high rise jobs or does White Eagle rock best whilst mixing cement? ;-) Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 7:18 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >We change the music, the music doesn't change us....David > > I don't think so. I think music, TD's in particular, has > definitely changed me, but I can't tell you how, since there isn't a > control copy of me to compare it to. > > Scott Well, I built a robot of myself back in....oh let's see..1985... before I discovered TD. The robot was denied TD ever since...even to this day. I on the other hand have listened to TD since 85 and the effects I think are obvious. The robot seems to respond much better to idiots than I do....I think it's a patient thing. I, on the other hand, have become this big Tom Savini fan who just can't get enough of the walking dead and movies about girls with green eyes & stolen trucks in little China. I think Logos had something to do with that...well...perhaps it was the fact that they called Street Hawk LA streetHawk instead of just Street Hawk...but who knows? It could have also been the side effects of watching Rex Smith try to act his way out of the paper bag. More info on how the robot it doing later... Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12519 Re: How TD has changed ME feldon@p... Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB 12527 Re: How TD has changed ME Gabe Yedid Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 6:50 pm Subject: another new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) Hello Everybody! Another new member to the list! My name is Ami Hassinen and from the exotic name you probably guessed that I´m from Zimbabwe. Well, not really...I´m from Finland, Scandinavia and I´ve been a devoted TD fan from the 1983 onwards... I´m 31 years old now and work as an art teacher (MA), but I waste most of my sparetime with music-related activities. Played synths and guitar in bands since 1985 (been on albums and compilations...some of those have even been published in the US of A by Logic Records). Well, more of that later if someone´s interested... by the way, are there other fans-turned-musicians on the list? I´m afraid that I´m one of those fans that think that TD made their best albums between 1972-1983. That does not mean that I dislike their later output but generally I agree with the things Mr. Stump wrote in his book 'Digital Gothic'. Being a newcomer in the net, this is actually my first mailing list experience. So I won´t mind if you correct me on the 'list policies' if need arises. Lately I´ve been very much into collecting TD tapes and will be very interested in swapping material... Well, that´enough for a starters I guess... Cheerio to all list members from the polar circle, Ami ps. Has anybody any info about Mr. Baumanns activities during the last decade or so? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12494 Re: another new member Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12507 Re: another new member Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12513 Re: another new member Hassinen Ami Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB 12520 Re: another new member feldon@p... Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 7:01 pm Subject: Re: Attention, Vic and all home page owners ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > > Sorry things aren't interesting enough for you, Klaus. But never fear, the > > following threads are due anytime, so please stay tuned: > > > > *Does The Keep lp really exist? (oh, sorry, Steven's already got that > > cookie long-a-bakin') > > *TD's cover of 'Greased Lightning' > > *Edgar arranging for a psychic to channel Jimi Hendrix so TD can do a > > *really* good version of > > 'Purple Haze' > > > > I hope that brightens your day. Like Bob Ross says, 'it's all fluffy, white > > clouds.' > > > > E-Man > > You forgot to mention that next week we will be discussing the effects > of construction workers who listen to TD on the job. Is Rubycon the best > album for those high rise jobs or does White Eagle rock best whilst > mixing cement? ;-) > > Dano Totally forgot about that one. I guess I was focusing on its complement, the effect of 'Birth of Liquid Pleijades' and 'Coldwater Canyon' played simultaneously (one or the other on *backward play*) in the close proximity of (and at excrutiating volume) on gardeners who are using gas blowers and weedeaters. E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 7:05 pm Subject: fassbinder -- for vic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Vic writes: >2. Does anyone know the going rate for the clear vinyl Fassbinder >bootleg? I have heard of prices around $100, but that seems high if >3,000 copies were supposedly pressed? --> I've seen them about $30-40 which I consider a decent price. I certainly wouldn't pay more than $50-60 US for one (unless I was REALLY deparate) .. Especially since the fan tape has an extra 6min not on the EP! lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 12:49 pm Subject: Re: Dogs and Logos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 02:05 PM 3/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >Yeah well, I think my cat made his opinion quite clear....he peed on the >speakers. Man! Sounds like this cat is no friend of Viking/Norse gods! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 1:19 pm Subject: Re: Strange Monkeys / Quinoa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' > >Both Qinoa and AM work just fine in my cd-rom reader. I checked after your >first message. Forgot to answer your message, however :-). > >Could it be related to the 'autoplay' function (mine is set to ON)? > >Might also be related to make, speed and type (scsi or ide) of player. > >Bye. > > > >jp > No, one CD (Quinoa) works and the other (AM) doesn't. Moreover, I have one IDE and one SCSI CDROM reader and both work or don't. Autoplay is ON too. Fred np : Stone Age - Reel Legend & Stone Trance From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 8:54 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 01:50 AM 3/31/1998 EST, DAVENTURA wrote: >Interesting thread, Andrew, think I'll perpetuate it. After listening to over >a week's music on headphones (loudly), I can honestly say that my hearing >capabilities have changed. I'm not sure that I can agree that music, TD in >particular, can change a person. I mean, what are we talking about here, >physiology? I guess I've changed from when I first started to listen to TD, >which by the way, is approaching 20 years. I've put on a few pounds. Can I >attribute this to TD? The music we listen to is the soundtrack of our lives. >We change the music, the music doesn't change us....David Chicken or the egg...Who knows? OTOH, I can remember exactly the milestones of my musical listening experiences. As a youngster, after listening for years to Russian, Romanian, and Hungarian 'patriotic' songs, I remember the precise moment when I heard 'Sophisticated Lady' (Duke Ellington) on the Voice of America. Bam! I was hooked. The next years were spent listening and playing (clandestinely) American jazz. Mostly the standards. Imitating (the best I could tunes hear on short-wave radio): Oscar Peterson, Art Tatum, George Sheering, Bill Evans,.... When I arrived at the shores of America, just as I saw the Statue of Liberty, Dean Martin was singing 'Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes.' Next few years: Frank Sinatra,'evolving' to Brasil '66, Sergio Mendez, then Moody Blues, Chicago, ...... 1971, one sunny Sunday morning in a movie studio in Hollywood...Pink Floyd's 'Meddle.' Bam!! Next few years with art rock (now called progrock)..... 1974, late at night, graduate student at FSU (Tallahassee) working on a neurophysiological prep, the campus radio station plays Tangerine Dream's 'Phaedra.' BAM !!! Never the same again.... Have I changed because of the music, or am I listening to music differently, because I am older? Physiological changes? You bet! Measure my heart beat before and during a TD album. Measure my beta-endorphin level. Then do the same with Garth Brooks. Guaranteed that my cortisol level (a stress hormone) is up, instead. But, listening to music cannot be reduced to a simple a physiological state. I would hope there is more to me than just physiology. Like feelings. I smile when I listen to TD. I am calmer. The world appears to be a better place. I can ignore the fool drivers who tailgate in the rain or drive exactly the speed limit in the left lane. I get re-energized at night and can do some more work or tolerate my hyperactive kid better. In fact, we play chess while listening to TD and other E-music. Oh, yes...TD was just the beginning...check out GoldTri... Did my waistline go from a 29 to a 35? My jackets from a 40 to a 43. Yup. The relationship between them and TD's music? Probably none! I guess some of you missed the discussion I had with Francisco with regards to the possibility that listening to certain kinds of music enhances performance and the ability to learn. I would recommend reading the new edition of 'Superlearning ' by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder. Tangerine Dream is mentioned specifically. Ohmmmmmmmmmmm..... Andrew Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12506 Re: How TD has changed ME Geir Smedsrud Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 8:58 pm Subject: Rob Halford Chat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: ben@s... (Ben Smith) Rob Halford April 1st, 7:00 p.m. EST http://www.sonicnet.com Former Judas Priest front man Rob Halford discusses his new collaborative project with NIN's Trent Reznor titled 'Two.' Ask him about their startling new video 'I Am A Pig' and the stinging new release 'Voyeurs' on Nothing/Interscope Records. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12495 Re: Rob Halford Chat Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12542 Re: Rob Halford Chat Michael Fox Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB 12503 Re: Rob Halford Chat DAVENTURA Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB 12544 Re: Rob Halford Chat anja Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 9:04 pm Subject: Re: another new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 09:50 PM 3/31/1998 +0300, Ami wrote: >Another new member to the list! My name is Ami Hassinen and from the exotic >name you probably guessed that I´m from Zimbabwe. Well, not really...I´m >from Finland, Scandinavia and I´ve been a devoted TD fan from the 1983 >onwards... Welcome to the list. It's always nice to see new folks tuning in...especially ones with a sense of humor. :-) >sparetime with music-related activities. Played synths and guitar in bands >since 1985 (been on albums and compilations...some of those have even been >published in the US of A by Logic Records). Well, more of that later if >someone´s interested... by the way, are there other fans-turned-musicians on >the list? I think you will find what/who you need at GoldTri, a discussion list devoted to E-music. Send an e-mail to: majordomo@a... with the following command in the body of your email message: subscribe goldtri your@e... There are about a dozen new and established e-musicians on that list. A caveat though: don't tell anybody that you sing, IF you sing. The Tri stands for: electronic, progressive, instrumental.:-) Regards, Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 9:37 pm Subject: Re: Rob Halford Chat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: ben@s... (Ben Smith) > > Rob Halford > April 1st, 7:00 p.m. EST > http://www.sonicnet.com > > Former Judas Priest front man Rob Halford discusses > his new collaborative project with NIN's Trent Reznor titled 'Two.' Ask him > about their startling new video 'I Am A Pig' and the stinging new release > 'Voyeurs' on Nothing/Interscope Records. What's this sh*t doing here? Dude, I think there's a Judas Priest mailing list for this...isn't there?? (I heard 'Two' sucks, anyway.) E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12542 Re: Rob Halford Chat Michael Fox Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Inane; Don't Read... except for Dano & Elias ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Molasar's Rump Belcheth Forth' >Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:37:11 -0800 >Subject: Re: Rob Halford Chat >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Elias Granillo, Jr. > >>Really-From: ben@s... (Ben Smith) >> >>Former Judas Priest front man Rob Halford discusses >>his new collaborative project with NIN's Trent Reznor titled 'Two.' > >What's this sh*t doing here? Dude, I think there's a Judas Priest >mailing list for this...isn't there?? (I heard 'Two' sucks, anyway.) And here *I* was, thinking that this 'Ben Smith' was actually you or Dano posting under an alias! ;) Anyways, mebbe Jerome should tune in for some tips on how to look keen in rock videos. Rob's always favored the tennis ball sheen over the spikey ALADDIN SANE/PINUPS-era (that's 1973!) Bowie hairdo that Jerome's got atop his pate, though. Hee hee. -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 10:26 pm Subject: me AND my PURCHASE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hi gang, I have been asked by several list members the difference between the Dune LP I recently purchased in Chicago and the Dune I previously had- here it is: Dune - KLAUS SCHULZE Brain Records 0060.225 (1979) Silver reflective cover with hazy figure walking /back cover small photo inset of KS with legs up on console. And the one I just got: Dune-KS Gramavision 1870221(1979) Picture of field with electronic diagram / back cover white with song titles And I also got the CON -Conrad Schnitzler Pargon Records 1978 Produced by Peter Bauman Cover TV set with CS on it/Back cover CS dressed like a mime conducting. I hope this helps. Seeya- Chris N.P. Young Frankenstein OS (old Vinyl) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 10:38 pm Subject: RE: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS I have to say, I too am zombie obsessed and have JC tatooed into my hiney. My pod hatched me in 1979 when in a craze puchased several albums next to and around the horror section of my local record store. Why Electronic Med. Was in there I will never know, but I bought that and Goblins 'Dawn ..'at the same time. After letting various JC scores turn my brains into mush, I started going back to TD and the Thief score was the one that clinched. Hooked ever since I know slip new pods by many unsuspecting beds whilst they sleep (for some reason they are all they are all list members). Let us hope our numbers mulitply like the funky green jell on the ceiling of the church that Alice Cooper belongs too. Chris Well, I built a robot of myself back in....oh let's see..1985... before I discovered TD. The robot was denied TD ever since...even to this day. I on the other hand have listened to TD since 85 and the effects I think are obvious. The robot seems to respond much better to idiots than I do....I think it's a patient thing. I, on the other hand, have become this big Tom Savini fan who just can't get enough of the walking dead and movies about girls with green eyes & stolen trucks in little China. I think Logos had something to do with that...well...perhaps it was the fact that they called Street Hawk LA streetHawk instead of just Street Hawk...but who knows? It could have also been the side effects of watching Rex Smith try to act his way out of the paper bag. More info on how the robot it doing later... Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 12:44 am Subject: New member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' Hello everyone, My name is Kevin and I am 32 yrs. old. I have been a TD fan since 1981. I have been subscribed to this list for a few weeks but have been lurking in the background observing the daily rituals. This is my first exposure to a mailing list! Anyhow, to make a long story short, I made my first post yesterday concerning an interest in any live and studio videos. What I got in response was a few cryptic replies and much hesitation. I guess I did it bass ackwards..... instead of introducing myself first and asking for favors second. I wanting to build a worthy TD collection, both Audio and Video. The only video I have (aside from the usual 'official' ones) is a very BAD and grainy one that has portions of the Poland concert, TD playing with an orchestra a song from White Eagle, and a barely recognizable and incomplete copy of the 1975 Cathedral concert. I look forward to living the 'Dream'!!!! Thanks, Kevin Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12500 Re: New member Alistair Hull Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB 12521 Re: New member feldon@p... Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 25932 New member lawlermusic Thu 2/8/2001 2 KB 25941 Re: New member Gary Jenkins Thu 2/8/2001 2 KB 25935 Re: New member Feldon Feldon Thu 2/8/2001 3 KB 25938 Re: New member lawlermusic Thu 2/8/2001 3 KB 25944 Re: New member / Dreamwatcher'sTale j.gordon Fri 2/9/2001 3 KB 25939 Re: New member Feldon Feldon Thu 2/8/2001 4 KB 25940 Re: New member Brian Stewart Thu 2/8/2001 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: New member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Alistair Hull Jen, Greetings from an Brit in New Jersey. The members of this list often venomously disagree about what is and isn't the Best TD, but generally they fall into two camps; the 'I only like the old stuff and this new stuff is cr*p' group and the 'TD lost it when they started using preset sounds from mass-produced keyboards' bunch. Personally I've been collecting their albums since 1976 and it's been an adventure, moving with them to their next new musical direction. In case you didn't know they've changed the bands' line-up more times than you've had hot dinners, and with each new influx of talent, imagination and musical heritage they've graduated from one phase to another. Their 'live' albums often were so 'doctored' that they bore no resemblance to the actual live performance. Their Soundtrack albums have varied from brilliant to downright 'forget it'. For me, I guess the best albums have been 'Melrose' 'Underwater Sunlight' 'The Dream Mixes' and 'Optical Race' So many friends of mine have heard Underwater Sunlight and become TD Fans themselves as a result. Welcome aboard. TD Discovery tour leaving now......join it at http://www.tadream.de np (Now Playing) New Order - Republic Regards Alistair Hull Alistair.hull@l... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12521 Re: New member feldon@p... Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 2:05 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-30 22:46:49 EST, you write: << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Really-From: Jen Phillips Aha! Proof that there *are* female TD fans! Welcome to the list, Jen. >> What am I, chopped liver? 8-) Dell Hope you enjoy the links I sent you, Jen; welcome to the best list in the world. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 2:19 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Scott writes: > My suggestion: first, buy my TD book. OK, OK...how much? Do I send you a money order? Do you ship it third class? Will you autograph it? Am I through?....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 2:39 am Subject: Re: Rob Halford Chat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Startling and stinging? I guess you're a big fan. I'll admit to hearing JP once or twice, but I own none of their albums and I'm really offended that you wasted my personal Email reading hour with this....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 3:50 am Subject: Tournado tracks? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dr. George Choksy' Hi guys. This is probably really dumb and it's already been talked to death while I wasn't paying attention, BUT... I just obtained Tournado a few days ago. Why does it have only 9 tracks listed on the cover, but 10 tracks on the CD? Thanks for your indulgence. George Choksy Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12505 Re: Tournado tracks? Sean Montgomery Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:50 am Subject: Re: Tournado tracks? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I just obtained Tournado a few days ago. Why does it have > only 9 tracks listed on the cover, but 10 tracks on the CD? Track One is actually the drum solo which begins the CD, and it's not listed on the cover. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 8:40 am Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Geir Smedsrud At 14:54 31.03.98 -0600, you wrote: > >I guess some of you missed the discussion I had with Francisco with regards >to the possibility that listening to certain kinds of music enhances >performance and the ability to learn. I would recommend reading the new >edition of 'Superlearning ' by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder. >Tangerine Dream is mentioned specifically. > >Ohmmmmmmmmmmm..... > >Andrew > I can tell you, some ten years back I was reading about the battle at Crecy while listening to Phaedra and Rubycon, and everytime I listen to those tracks again I get these 'flashbacks', remembering in vivid details the happenstance around the battle and the battle itself. It is quite weird. Best regards; Geir Mr Geir Smedsrud Phone :74 14 83 53 N-7730 Beitstad E-mail :geirs@m... Norway From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 8:17 am Subject: Re: another new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) > > Hello Everybody! > > ps. > Has anybody any info about Mr. Baumanns activities during the last decade or so? One of the following concerns this ex-TD member: 1) involvement in non-music related ventures such as properties management (rumor) 2) involvement as 1/3 of *aborted* Blue Room project with Paul Haslinger and Re-Flex vocalist/guitarist John Baxter (fact) 3) holed up in an oil drum somewhere with Jimmy Hoffa (speculation) E-Man np: Todd Rundgren's Utopia From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 10:37 am Subject: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS Okay folks, I finally got my cd's today (thanks Tony & Andy!!). Here's basically what I think: I can say I was really excited to see what all of these guys could do under warm lamps & electronic equipment. I think all you guys are extremely cool & talented..even if I don't like your music hehe. Let's get into it using the 1-5 scale previously used: 1.Timescape-Purple Rocks-Nice production but I can't see the greatness that everyone has apparenly seen in this track. In the mid eighties I remember Eli & myself would buy tapes of unknown emusic artists (we called them 'chance tapes') and hope for the best. If they sucked, they got launched into used bins or left in the car to be melted under the hot Palm Springs sun. If they rocked we continued to buy the artist's releases until they sucked. Then of course, there were those albums deemed cool at first...but then they became unimpressive quickly as better artists appeared. This song reminds me of several of those tapes I got rid of because the music just became too outdated. I can't really describe this tune any better, heh heh, than being dorky. I did like the guitar though. Perhaps the song was too short. It never really had the chance to go anywhere. Rating=3 2. Fanger & Kersten-Tapedriver-Typical DA music title type opening. A few klings, a few klangs, perhaps a few disco balls rotaing with pictures of Ralf & Florian on them. This song goes absolutely nowhere. The droning sequence gave me a headache and the female voice saying 'ooohhh yeahhh' made me think it was a song written for Pink Nose the pimp to stroll down the sidewalk to. No melody at all. Ugh. Rating=1 Joxbox-9th King Of Fife-I'm not really sure what this tune was other than techno, really. It's a fairly simple sequence running throughout but it doesn't really fly into awesome territory. It's a nice trance tune & the production is nice but since I don't like trance I have to give it a rating=3. Paul Nagle-Captain Edgar Buys A Fish-Shooowwee! I think Paul & Andy Pickford have been downing beers at some pub in the mountains. IMO, this is the best track on the compilation. This tune, though obviously tinted with humor, has some really cool melodies & weirdness. The voices are nice, the tempo was pacey & it just reminded me of a classic melodic UK synth slobberfest. No wonder Paul was at Huizen on stage. A beautiful tune....but it was too short! Rating=5 Paul Lawler-Ice Station-This tune is a little too sweet for me. Once again I feel the sequence is too heavily relied upon and the song just doesn't go anywhere. If I were in a forest and needed to get some sleep, this song might be an insomnia cure. Too new age ridden for Captain Dano's taste. Rating=2 FSP-Amalthea-Hmm, the intro reminds me of Steve Roach's Empetus, which is a good thing I guess...I like that album. The analog sequences are brilliant in sound & composition but I have to say this: How many more Sorcerer/Rubycon/Encore/Redshift/Phaedra songs do we need? Just because we're in this 80's retro thing doesn't mean we need to have the same lameness with Tangerine Dream, does it? There are dozens of Berlin School TD ripoff (inspired if you like) albums out there...do we really need more? I think not. This tune gets two ratings Sound & production=5 (the use of expensive studio equipment really shows here & the solo piano at the end is very, very nice) Originality=2. 4A-Hatred On An Imaginary Monorail-Hmm, the now infamous cannon blast didn't scare me at all. In fact, I somehow predicted it before it even happened. I have that sixth sense you know. These guys were inspired by Goblin among others, what else do you want to explain their weirdness? Heh, give two guys a few keyboards, 30 minutes & an inspirational tune like Love On A Real Train & who knows what you'll come up with? Rating=N/A Asana-Transform-Ralf! Florian! You're back! This has to be inspired by Kraftwerk and if you like those silly German men then you'll dig this goofy tune. Heh, I liked it. It was quite the heeeelarious tune & it made me want to dance with Dieter from Sprockets. Touch My Monkey! Rating=3 Gigantic Legless Cauldrons- A short ride...blah blah blah-Well, I need at least 3 minutes of music to give a proper critique. From what I heard I'd have to say...ugh...but like the owl & the toosie roll pop...the world may never know. Rating=1 AirSculpture-Sargasso Sea-Well, after all the great reviews & hubbub I was very excited to hear this track. It turned out to be like showing up at a Spinal Tap concert and seeing Enya walk out on stage with skipping midgets carrying ferns & Banzai plants. What is up with this!?!? This is the definition of sonic wallpaper. Lots of boring spacy sound effects with an unchanging sequence barely noticable in the background. I'd rather listen to the Titanic soundtrack over and over than this tune. Sorry everyone, I see nothing impressive at all with this band. What am I missing? Where were these guys when Carl Sagan needed to score Cosmos?? Rating=1 T-BassUK-A Question Of Time-This tune was pretty cool, but it's a little too euro for me (though I love Men Without Hats). I've never heard TBass before & after all the hype I was hoping they were pretty good...and they were! These guys make some neat fun music. I'm not sure it really belongs in the Goldtri vein but it definately has melody & style. Sounds like they have a lot of fun doing what they do, which should always be the case. Rating=3 Under The Dome-Flussiger Vier Takter-The acoustic guitar opening is nice, made me feel all warm & fuzzy inside. But then...look out!! UGHHH!!! RUBYCON!! Okay, I realize that there will always be fans of Berlin School Rubycon/Phaedra/& Richochet...but it does nothing for emusic but tell people 'oh look, it's another band trying to be like Tangerine Dream during their Rubycon years!' What can I say..the production is perfect but like FSP's track...there's nothing there. Another cliche' droning analog sequence that starts off slow, builds, gets punchy, slows down, fades away & goes into neat solo stuff. Same ol same ol. Sounds great, but so do birds & waterfalls. rating-2 Eric Snelders-A flock of Red Ibis-Zzzzzzzzzzzz. I think this is a lost track from Constance Demby's library. Total new age...I can't say anymore or I might get vaclemped. Rating-2 Keller & Schonwalder-Stumbled In Derby-This track probably took even less time to compose than 4A's track. Maybe if they had turned the tempo up to 150 it may have worked. I just can't get into this kind of music anymore. It's a droning sequence ala Dancing Fantasy or Software...that just goes nowhere. Rating-1 Ashok Prema-Unicorn-This tune progresses very nicely. I really liked the emotion in this composition. No boring unchanging sequences that drone on forever. The sounds blend quite nicely. 2:20 into the tune it launches into a very nice analog sequence I slobbered over. We need more music like this around. rating=4 RAMP-The Warsaw Desaster-Heh, I think someone said something about Logos? I second that. I think this tune had some 82 TD inspirations happening here, maybe some Underwater Twilight inspirations? I'd buy their albums. A must if you like 80's TD.....& I do! Rating-4 Satsuma Nightmare-Hmm, a combination of Shreeve & TD and Vangelis?? No way. I think more like Coyote Oldman, Steve Roach ( the new Roach with Robert Rich) and Peter Kater. This song could be the soundtrack to any sunset. Like a porno, I sped through the dull parts to find good parts....I didn't find any. Rating=2 Synthetic Block-Swell And Slack-Funky ambient metallic techno tune....er....this song belongs in a chase scene involving Mitch Buchanan's feet speeding over sand whist chasing some hot busty babe. I liked it though because I'm a soundtrack fiend...& if it can work in film, which this tune could, it can work while I'm driving my car. This song is a lot different than the boring Berlin School stuff that's rampant and that's perfectly fine with me. Rating-4 wEiRd-Manual Gearchange-This composition is also a lot different than your usual tune...I like it! I just know these guys had fun just grooving this tune out. Reminds me of that Reggie Bannister hippie CD I got last year...great stuff! It is a little to funky for me but it sounds nice and it did not make me cramp in any way...in fact...it made me want to go have a Dos Equis with Jens & Andy. How about it guys? Rating-4 Decapolis-Sunset-Super funky jazz groove thing. Very, very nice tune...it...just belongs on a jazz label heh heh. Still, I don't dislike jazz so I have to say I actually like this tune. The birds in the song are great...all jazz tunes should have birds in them. Next thing you know Riley will be calling himself the Jazzmaster Flash! Good stuff Riley, but you might want to call Hearts Of Space. Rating-4 Well, that's it! Overall...a great compilation that will definately be a classic. I also wanted to say thanks to Tony Sawford & Andy Bloyce who did a killer job getting that sucker out. Also, condolences to Frank Makowski who did a great job on the CD layouts. Also, I think the queen of trouts needs an applause...even though we have our differences...thanks to Elana for founding the Goldtri list and making a place for all of us pathetic emusic people to gather....er....heh heh...well...most of us anyway heh. See you all on Volume two! Regards, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12511 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) DAVENTURA Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB 12512 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12522 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) feldon@p... Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12528 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) Gabe Yedid Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12531 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) Marcel Engels Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12532 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) Marcel Engels Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12534 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) DJS Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12535 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) DJS Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB 12537 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) DJS Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 9:41 am Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #238 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Wilson > Really-From: Geir Smedsrud > > I can tell you, some ten years back I was reading about the battle at Crecy > while listening to Phaedra and Rubycon, and everytime I listen to those tracks > again I get these 'flashbacks', remembering in vivid details the happenstance > around the battle and the battle itself. It is quite weird. > I remember listening to Force Majeure quite loud on headphones while reading C.S.Lewis' Prince Caspian about ten years ago -- I was reading of the Prince's flight on horseback through a forest and the music had just reached the fast-paced guitar-and-drums. That's an association that hasn't shifted yet. Any others? John W. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12523 Re: tadream-digest V16 #238 feldon@p... Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 9:50 am Subject: inner sleeve photos.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen Hi, I just cleaned my TD webpage from defunked links etc.. But there is one thing I want to ask for: Grant, I can't find your email adress on your webpage. You once scanned the inner sleeve photos of Cyclone, Phaedra, and some more. I never downloaded these. Do you still have them somewhere? I ask because the inner sleeve photo of Cyclone is so damn cool... you may mail me at ath@s... thanx a.th. Armin Theissen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Armagh Observatory email: ath@s... College Hill http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath Armagh BT61 9DG Phone: (+44) 1861 522928 N. Ireland Fax: (+44) 1861 527174 o/ \o_ \ / __ __o |o \__/o | o____ |__ __/ \__/o | / | / o\ / | > / \ /o\ o| << | \o__/ Ouch!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 10:00 am Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Wait a minute Dano. I'm a fan of your humor, but if I wanted to hear about the GoldTri list and Elana and all that other bullshit, I'd subscribe to it. Why is this posted on the Tadream list? Just wondering....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 10:18 am Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > Wait a minute Dano. I'm a fan of your humor, but if I wanted to hear about > the GoldTri list and Elana and all that other bullshit, I'd subscribe to it. > Why is this posted on the Tadream list? Just wondering....David Hi, Dave. It's the review of GoldTri: Volume One, a brand-new 2CD sampler set that debuted at the Alfa Centauri EMusic fest in Huizen (Netherlands) on Mar. 21. Many people who post on here & GoldTri, including Paul Nagle, Jens Peschke, Ashok Prema, Riley Roden (Decapolis) and even yours truly, along with Dan (as 4A) have a track featured on it :-))) E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 10:29 am Subject: Re: another new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) At 00:17 1.4.1998 -0800, you wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > >> Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) >> >> Hello Everybody! >> >> ps. >> Has anybody any info about Mr. Baumanns activities during the last decade >or so? > >One of the following concerns this ex-TD member: > >1) involvement in non-music related ventures such as properties management >(rumor) >2) involvement as 1/3 of *aborted* Blue Room project with Paul Haslinger >and Re-Flex > vocalist/guitarist John Baxter (fact) >3) holed up in an oil drum somewhere with Jimmy Hoffa (speculation) > >E-Man >np: Todd Rundgren's Utopia Thanks for the info. Maybe that oil drum story is the most interesting scenario of these three))) Especially when one thinks how his solo albums deteriorated woefully after the 'Transharmonic nights'. Anyway, I find it extremely weird that a guy who could create 'Nights' and 'Romance' sold out so completely almost overnight. He must have had a enormous craving for money and/or pop stardom... Well, I would like to know more about that 'Blue Room'. When was this project started? bye, Ami From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 7:54 pm Subject: Tangram Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' If anyone is interested, I have created a Tangram (solution part) midi file. Mail me off list if you would like a copy sent to you. Also, as I do not have a website of my own, I can't load it up anywhere. Is there anyone that wants to do that? (Phil Meyer.. you still on this list?) Force Majeure almost finished too... :-) Regards, Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12609 Re: Tangram Midi File Philip Meyer Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB 12617 Re: Tangram Midi File DAVENTURA Sat 4/4/1998 2 KB 12632 Re: Tangram Midi File Philip Meyer Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 30, 1998 9:13 pm Subject: D: TimeSquare ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' TimeSquare: Dream Mixes II - TDI009 1. Mobocaster 7:24 2. Jungle Jacula 8:41 3. Towards The Evening Star (Blue Gravity Mix) 8:41 4. Digital Sister 7:10 5. Pixel Pirates 6:55 6. Culpa Levis 10:11 7. Timesquare 8:42 Total Running Time 57:44 I must admit to being a little disappointed by this album, especially after the fantastic Dream Mixes. I think the most disappointing part is the fact that I was expecting 'dance' remixes of some classic TD tracks, but with the exception of Towards The Evening Star, the rest are unrecognisable (with the exception of the snippets that Steve Feldman pointed out in a previous post - and I tend to agree with his observations). I think that this album should have carried off where Dream Mixes left off (as indeed the title implies). Another snag is that Dream Mixes was instantly danceable (not that I'm a dancehead by the way) but TimeSquare is less immediate, and somehow the rhythms and beats are less dynamic. Having said all of that, although overall this is a disappointing album, there are one or two very good tracks. The first of these is the album opener, Mobocaster. This, in my mind is a perfect example of Jerome's influence on the TD direction. The track isn't as cluttered as some of Edgars current output, and one of the plus points (going back to the presets discussion) is that there are some quite unusual sounds on this track, some effects processing that just give the track a slightly different feel to recent output. I also like Towards The Evening Star. This is my favourite track from Goblin's Club, so it's nice to hear a different version of it. (I even like The Orb's version :-) ). The only problem with this track is that the timing sounds all off. Different time signatures or something, for the new rhythm and the original melodies. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something is not right here, or at least at the start of the track. Pixel Pirates is another good one, very lively and animated, and has echoes of late seventies, early eighties sequences dancing about in the background. Again, evidence of Jerome's input, IMO. TimeSquare round the album off nicely, and again, whilst not a brilliant track, isn't half bad. Some really nice ideas in there, but not much development. I think this track suffers from the 'lets get lots of different bits in there' syndrome. All in all, although I was personally disappointed by the album, it's not that bad. I just feel that it could have been so much better. However, I must admit I like the direction Jerome puts into these Dream Mixes albums, for certainly it is he that is the driving force for them. Maybe, with a little more thought put into it, TD could come up with a DM3 that would blow our socks off. They've definitely got one in them, if they only gave themselves enough time to develop an album properly instead of rushing to release one album after another. Still, no doubt the majority of us on the list would still buy this even if it was a complete load of b******s. Regards, Lawry lawrysimm@u... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 10:55 am Subject: Baumann/Blue Room ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) > > Well, I would like to know more about that 'Blue Room'. When was this > project started? After Paul left TD, around 93 or 94, I think, but don't quote me :-))) I don't know why it fell through, but based on all those stories about Pete (in the 70s), he may be a hard guy to work with, because I can't fathom Paul as anything *but.* E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 11:07 am Subject: items to go! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' Anybody interested in a very few bits I have to get rid off: Rubycon cd Logos cd 3 O' Clock High video (I have seen quite a lot worse movies than this!) All at 6 UK pounds plus postage Any takers?? Ash From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: Macula Transfer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rainer Rutka Just for your info: Macula Transfer, the Edgar Froese CD is out now ! It's _not_ a boot. Manikin Records released a legal version with great sound including the complete original cover artwork. Nice item ! I ordered it last week and got my copy today (5 days). It is a MUST ! You'll find it at : www.manikin.de or write a email to: manikinms@a... ! Keep on dreamin' Rainer Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13962 Macula Transfer RBrown4856 Wed 5/27/1998 2 KB 13963 Re: Macula Transfer Jens Peschke Wed 5/27/1998 3 KB 13968 Re: Macula Transfer TWeibre361 Wed 5/27/1998 3 KB 14649 Re: Macula Transfer feldon@p... Mon 6/15/1998 2 KB 19893 Macula Transfer John Marchington Sat 12/18/1999 2 KB 19896 Re: Macula Transfer Vic Rek Sat 12/18/1999 1 KB 24988 Macula Transfer Derk Sun 11/12/2000 2 KB 24990 Re: Macula Transfer Marcel Engels Sun 11/12/2000 2 KB 25002 Re: Macula Transfer Armin Theissen Mon 11/13/2000 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 1:38 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:18 AM 3/31/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: DJS > >tadream mailing list wrote: >> >> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> >> >We change the music, the music doesn't change us....David >> >> I don't think so. I think music, TD's in particular, has >> definitely changed me, but I can't tell you how, since there isn't a >> control copy of me to compare it to. >> >> Scott > >Well, I built a robot of myself back in....oh let's see..1985... before >I discovered TD. The robot was denied TD ever since...even to this day. >I on the other hand have listened to TD since 85 and the effects I think >are obvious. The robot seems to respond much better to idiots than I >do....I think it's a patient thing. I, on the other hand, have become >this big Tom Savini fan who just can't get enough of the walking dead >and movies about girls with green eyes Wasn't 5th Element an awesome movie? >& stolen trucks in little China. >I think Logos had something to do with that...well...perhaps it was the >fact that they called Street Hawk LA streetHawk instead of just Street >Hawk...but who knows? It could have also been the side effects of >watching Rex Smith try to act his way out of the paper bag. More info on >how the robot it doing later... > >Dano Morgan Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12527 Re: How TD has changed ME Gabe Yedid Wed 4/1/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 1:44 pm Subject: Re: another new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:50 PM 3/31/98 +0300, you wrote: >Really-From: ami.hassinen@e... (Hassinen Ami) > >Hello Everybody! > >Another new member to the list! My name is Ami Hassinen and from the exotic >name you probably guessed that I´m from Zimbabwe. Well, not really...I´m >from Finland, Scandinavia and I´ve been a devoted TD fan from the 1983 >onwards... > >I´m 31 years old now and work as an art teacher (MA), but I waste most of my >sparetime with music-related activities. Played synths and guitar in bands >since 1985 (been on albums and compilations...some of those have even been >published in the US of A by Logic Records). Well, more of that later if >someone´s interested... by the way, are there other fans-turned-musicians on >the list? > >I´m afraid that I´m one of those fans that think that TD made their best >albums between 1972-1983. That does not mean that I dislike their later >output but generally I agree with the things Mr. Stump wrote in his book >'Digital Gothic'. Many of us, including me, believe that their best stuff was 1973-1986... If you get a chance, pick up Livemiles (86) and The Dream Mixes (95). Both of these albums really surprised me by being so well sequenced... >Being a newcomer in the net, this is actually my first mailing list >experience. So I won´t mind if you correct me on the 'list policies' if need >arises. Lately I´ve been very much into collecting TD tapes and will be very >interested in swapping material... There's a huge tape tree running right now. And there are tons of CDs available. My favorite fantape is the HOUR of stuff from the Logos concert tha t either did not appear, or had been played on Exit, and White Eagle... >Well, that´enough for a starters I guess... > >Cheerio to all list members from the polar circle, > >Ami From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 1:52 pm Subject: Re: New member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 06:44 PM 3/31/98 CDT, you wrote: >Really-From: Alistair Hull > >Jen, > >Greetings from an Brit in New Jersey. > >The members of this list often venomously disagree about what is and >isn't the Best TD, but generally they fall into two camps; the 'I only >like the old stuff and this new stuff is cr*p' group and the 'TD lost it >when they started using preset sounds from mass-produced keyboards' >bunch. Um, these are the same camp. feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 1:59 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 02:37 AM 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: DJS > > > >FSP-Amalthea-Hmm, the intro reminds me of Steve Roach's Empetus, which >is a good thing I guess...I like that album. The analog sequences are >brilliant in sound & composition but I have to say this: How many more >Sorcerer/Rubycon/Encore/Redshift/Phaedra songs do we need? As many as people can produce!!!! >Dano Morgan feldon@p... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12528 Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) Gabe Yedid Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 2:01 pm Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #238 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:41 AM 4/1/98 +0100, you wrote: >Really-From: John Wilson > > > >> Really-From: Geir Smedsrud >> >> I can tell you, some ten years back I was reading about the battle at Crecy >> while listening to Phaedra and Rubycon, and everytime I listen to those tracks >> again I get these 'flashbacks', remembering in vivid details the happenstance >> around the battle and the battle itself. It is quite weird. >> > >I remember listening to Force Majeure quite loud on headphones while >reading C.S.Lewis' Prince Caspian about ten years ago -- I was reading of >the Prince's flight on horseback through a forest and the music had just >reached the fast-paced guitar-and-drums. That's an association that hasn't >shifted yet. TD greatly enhanced my reading of the Earthsea Quadilogy by Ursula K. LeGuin (these books are part of the founding of AD&D) and the Tolkien Sextology (Yes, the Lord of the Rings is really 6 books, packaged in 3 sets of 2)... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:02 pm Subject: The Quest is over!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' I went to a hole-in-the-wall used record store last night after work, flipped through soundtracks, and found: THE KEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately it cost me two hundred freakin' bucks!!! Luckily I was able to charge it, and once Steven sends me my reward I can pay my bill before the wife kicks my arse. The cover shows a shot of the front of the keep, with Juergen Prochnow, Gabriel Byrne, and the priest, and the back cover shows shots of Alberta Watson & Scott Glen gettin' it on, Scott & Molesar duking it out, Dr. What's-his-name, and the two German soldiers prying the cross out of the wall. Tracklist: Side 1: Opening theme/The Arrival 5:28 Moelsar is Released 2:54 Glaeken 1:57 The Night in Romania 3:16 Puer Natus est Nobis 3:09 The Challenger's Arrival 5:00 Side 2: Love Theme 5:32 Molesar 3:12 Escaping the Keep 3:01 Captured 2:30 Canzone 2:51 Triumph (End Theme) 3:38 It's on MCA, and the number is 1 201 315. The copy I got was near mint and polybagged. I haven't had a chance to play it yet. I asked the proprietor if he could get more, and he said that it was deleted before release and he was lucky to get the one he had. I left him my name & number and he said if any more turn up he'll let me know. I scanned the cover this moring and put it on my web page. You can see it at: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palladium/5728/index.html Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12526 Re: The Quest is over!!! Ken Beal Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB 12529 Re: The Quest is over!!! Gibbons, Conrad Wed 4/1/1998 5 KB 12530 Re: The Quest is over!!! Gabe Yedid Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12545 Re: The Quest is over!!! Plumer, Scott Wed 4/1/1998 4 KB 12614 Re: The Quest is over!!! =?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWW Sat 4/4/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:17 pm Subject: Cd's available ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TB220 here is a list of the td cd's that have not been sold or traded yet which I have more information for at the following address: hiawatha@s... Pergamon Tyranny of Beauty Tangram Rockoon Phaedra -> has a full length scratch that does not effect its play Cyclone Force Majeure Encore ATEM 220 Volt Live Le Parc it's a good offer if you're interested. Rob From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:22 pm Subject: Re: The Quest is over!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ken Beal Good One!!! Ya made me look....Ya got me....One point for you... At 8:02 AM -0800 4/1/98, tadream mailing list wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >I went to a hole-in-the-wall used record store last night after work, >flipped through soundtracks, and found: THE >KEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Unfortunately it cost me two hundred freakin' bucks!!! Luckily I was >able to charge it, and once Steven sends me my reward I can pay my bill >before the wife kicks my arse. > >The cover shows a shot of the front of the keep, with Juergen Prochnow, >Gabriel Byrne, and the priest, and the back cover shows shots of Alberta >Watson & Scott Glen gettin' it on, Scott & Molesar duking it out, Dr. >What's-his-name, and the two German soldiers prying the cross out of the >wall. > >Tracklist: >Side 1: >Opening theme/The Arrival 5:28 >Moelsar is Released 2:54 >Glaeken 1:57 >The Night in Romania 3:16 >Puer Natus est Nobis 3:09 >The Challenger's Arrival 5:00 > >Side 2: >Love Theme 5:32 >Molesar 3:12 >Escaping the Keep 3:01 >Captured 2:30 >Canzone 2:51 >Triumph (End Theme) 3:38 > >It's on MCA, and the number is 1 201 315. The copy I got was near mint >and polybagged. I haven't had a chance to play it yet. I asked the >proprietor if he could get more, and he said that it was deleted before >release and he was lucky to get the one he had. I left him my name & >number and he said if any more turn up he'll let me know. > >I scanned the cover this moring and put it on my web page. You can see >it at: >http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palladium/5728/index.html > > >Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:33 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: feldon@p... > > Wasn't 5th Element an awesome movie? The makeup, effects, action, and costumes were great. The acting and dialogue utterly blew. > Morgan > Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:35 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > At 02:37 AM 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Really-From: DJS > > > > > > > >FSP-Amalthea-Hmm, the intro reminds me of Steve Roach's Empetus, which > >is a good thing I guess...I like that album. The analog sequences are > >brilliant in sound & composition but I have to say this: How many more > >Sorcerer/Rubycon/Encore/Redshift/Phaedra songs do we need? > > As many as people can produce!!!! > > >Dano > > Morgan > feldon@p... Incredible I'm saying this, but I find myself in utter agreement with Dano for once. This is why I keep saying EM is a highly conservative school with no more originality, everyone is only interested in perpetuating the old sounds and styles. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:28 pm Subject: RE: The Quest is over!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' An April Fool's day prank perchance?? My cd of Chris Franke's 'A Late Delivery From Avalon' has most of track 16 missing... is this the norm?? Regards, Conrad Gibbons (please note my new email address : conrad.gibbons@l...) PS: Excuse non TD question!: Anyone out there have an Atari Jag cd peripheral with the Virtual Light Machine for sale, or know where I can get one? If so please email me any details. > ---------- > From: tadream@c...[SMTP:tadream@c...] > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 5:02 PM > To: tadream@c... > Subject: The Quest is over!!! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > I went to a hole-in-the-wall used record store last night after work, > flipped through soundtracks, and found: THE > KEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Unfortunately it cost me two hundred freakin' bucks!!! Luckily I was > able to charge it, and once Steven sends me my reward I can pay my > bill > before the wife kicks my arse. > > The cover shows a shot of the front of the keep, with Juergen > Prochnow, > Gabriel Byrne, and the priest, and the back cover shows shots of > Alberta > Watson & Scott Glen gettin' it on, Scott & Molesar duking it out, Dr. > What's-his-name, and the two German soldiers prying the cross out of > the > wall. > > Tracklist: > Side 1: > Opening theme/The Arrival 5:28 > Moelsar is Released 2:54 > Glaeken 1:57 > The Night in Romania 3:16 > Puer Natus est Nobis 3:09 > The Challenger's Arrival 5:00 > > Side 2: > Love Theme 5:32 > Molesar 3:12 > Escaping the Keep 3:01 > Captured 2:30 > Canzone 2:51 > Triumph (End Theme) 3:38 > > It's on MCA, and the number is 1 201 315. The copy I got was near mint > and polybagged. I haven't had a chance to play it yet. I asked the > proprietor if he could get more, and he said that it was deleted > before > release and he was lucky to get the one he had. I left him my name & > number and he said if any more turn up he'll let me know. > > I scanned the cover this moring and put it on my web page. You can see > it at: > http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palladium/5728/index.html > > > Scott > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 4:42 pm Subject: Re: The Quest is over!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' OK Scott...given today's date...I wish I could give you the benefit of the doubt... ;) but... Now, why don't you and Steve fly over to Berlin...or Vienna, as the case may be...present yourselves to Edgar, and ask him to autograph it for you guys? > http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palladium/5728/index.html > Still a bit dubious...(even in face of the visual documentation), (hold on while I check....) OOOOOHHHHHH....I *knew* it, Scott!!!!!!! You mongrel! ;) > Scott > Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 5:26 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: DJS > >FSP-Amalthea-Hmm, the intro reminds me of Steve Roach's Empetus, which >is a good thing I guess...I like that album. The analog sequences are >brilliant in sound & composition but I have to say this: How many more >Sorcerer/Rubycon/Encore/Redshift/Phaedra songs do we need? Just because >we're in this 80's retro thing doesn't mean we need to have the same >lameness with Tangerine Dream, does it? Thanks Dano! (I really mean it) Does the track really sound like Rubycon/Encore/Redshift etc.. that wasn't really my purpose and I certainly never intended to do that, but thanks very much for it. As you can see, I see it as a compliment. As for the ratings for the other tracks: It's really nice/funny to see people have different taste. The tracks Dano didn't like are exactly the tracks I do like. Marcel (old 70s fart :-)) Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 5:37 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >Incredible I'm saying this, but I find myself in utter agreement with >Dano for once. This is why I keep saying EM is a highly conservative >school with no more originality, everyone is only interested in >perpetuating the old sounds and styles. Listening to Stephen Parsicks/Traces of the Past right now, I disagree with you and Dano (but it's really a matter of taste really!). This disc got more atmosphere/new! tunes/power then the last dozen TD CDs, IMO (I know, this discussion is not about old style comparing with TD). Isn't it a melody which makes it a great CD? Why can't it be done with digital AND analog synths? So you're saying that all the sounds with those analog synths are already made? I think they still got plenty of power/new sounds in them left. btw: have you actually heard the Goldtri-CD? You might be suprised? Marcel (who can't understand people listens to classical music, because it's got the same sounds and styles as then it's all been done and repeated over and over again :-))) Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: About Lars' Dubbing Hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:11:23 -0500 >Subject: Re: tape trees: dubbing hints >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Lars R. Jones <105411.3107@c...> > >1) UNPACK your tapes. this doesn't just mean taking the wrapping off >;-) put new tapes in your deck and fast forward and rewind them one >time to loosen the tape spool. sometimes the tight factory winding >will cause some decks to drag or stop. [. . .] So, this isn't an 'old wives' tale,' eh? >2) use good quality tapes. Maxell XLII tapes are generally a standard >although TDKsa tapes are also quite good (and a few seconds longer); >there are also better quality / audophile tapes as well such as XLIIS >and denon #s 8,9,10 etc. etc. Other than the Denon 10, arguably the best all-around tape is the Sony Pro. This is a chrome tape with a ceramic tape guide. The ceramic reduces wow and flutter more than any other tape available. >5) buy and use wet and/or dry cleaners at least every 2 tapes -- or use >another method if you know how (like isopropyl alcohol and a good, >tightly rolled swab that won't leave little threads and fibers in your >tape mechanism). [. . .] I've heard that the cassette-shaped cleaners are not so great. >[. . .] Be sure that whatever you use cleans the capstan, rollers, >etc and not just the heads. Nein. Nyet. Non. Ixnay. Unless things have changed, DO NOT use head cleaner on the 'pinch roller' (the big black rubber wheel), because the alcohol will dry the wheel out so that it could crack or at least become abrasive to the tapes running over it. I have some rubber wheel cleaner/conditioner from about 10 years ago that is from Teac. They don't make it anymore and I've told that something else is now used to clean the pinch roller, but I can't recall what it is. Does anyone here know? Also, don't let head cleaner get on any of the plastic parts of the cassette drive mechanism because it can erode it slightly. >9) check and replace your patch cords. if your patch cords are more >than 2 years old, chances are they need to be replaced before they >become fossilized ;-) if you live near the ocean, have salt-water >fish tanks (don't laugh, it's true ;-) or live in a corrosive >atmosphere, you'll need to check and replace your patch cords at least >every 6 months. if you have any doubts about them, replace them. You're kidding, right? I've never heard about this before. Care to elaborate? -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12536 Re: About Lars' Dubbing Hints Plumer, Scott Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 12538 Re: About Lars' Dubbing Hints TWeibre361 Wed 4/1/1998 5 KB 12543 Re: About Lars' Dubbing Hints John M. Poer Wed 4/1/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 7:16 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > Wait a minute Dano. I'm a fan of your humor, but if I wanted to hear about > the GoldTri list and Elana and all that other bullshit, I'd subscribe to it. > Why is this posted on the Tadream list? Just wondering....David Well Mr Genius, this post relates to TD inspired music and it also pertains to several members on this particular list. I didn't see you bitch about that Rob Halford posting so just get back into bed and take a nap until you are feeling better. Cheers pilgrim, Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 7:44 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > >Really-From: DJS > > > > >FSP-Amalthea-Hmm, the intro reminds me of Steve Roach's Empetus, which > >is a good thing I guess...I like that album. The analog sequences are > >brilliant in sound & composition but I have to say this: How many more > >Sorcerer/Rubycon/Encore/Redshift/Phaedra songs do we need? Just because > >we're in this 80's retro thing doesn't mean we need to have the same > >lameness with Tangerine Dream, does it? > > Thanks Dano! (I really mean it) > Does the track really sound like Rubycon/Encore/Redshift etc.. that > wasn't really my purpose and I certainly never intended to do that, but > thanks > very much for it. As you can see, I see it as a compliment. It is a compliment, definately. You and Grant composed really cool tunes but I'm always looking for something that's away from the classic TD vein...perhaps more progressive with some rocks roots (hear Vince Dicola...a virtual slobberfest of synthrock). I'd recommend your albums to anyone who has grown up with TD. They wouldn't be disappointed. > > As for the ratings for the other tracks: > It's really nice/funny to see people have different taste. > The tracks Dano didn't like are exactly the tracks I do like. Truly. Your track kicked some serious butt & I would have totally slobbered (instead of semi slobbered) about 10 years ago when the emusic market was even more stale than today (bloody where were you in 1988!!! hehehe). I guess I'm just always looking for something new & different along the lines of Pickford/Shreeve. I can never get enough of what Mark puts out there. happy chappy Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 6:52 pm Subject: RE: About Lars' Dubbing Hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >>9) check and replace your patch cords. if your patch cords are more >>than 2 years old, chances are they need to be replaced before they >>become fossilized ;-) if you live near the ocean, have salt-water >>fish tanks (don't laugh, it's true ;-) or live in a corrosive >>atmosphere, you'll need to check and replace your patch cords at least >>every 6 months. if you have any doubts about them, replace them. > You're kidding, right? I've never heard about this before. Care >to elaborate? Well, yes & no. Standard RCA cords can corrode over time. Best thing to do is look at the exposed contact surface. If it looks dull, it's corroded. If you're a cheap-arse like me, get out the sandpaper and clean them off, or buy gold-plated cords. They won't corrode. Some folks insist on paying big money for Monster cable, but they're wasting their money. One thing Lars overlooked that is probably the most important thing is recording level. High-bias tapes can get a signal up to 3dB without distortion. If you can adjust your levels, keep the loud bits as close to the limit as possible. This will minimize the audible tape hiss. Don't turn up the levels on the quiet parts, and turn it down when you get to the louder parts, though: set your levels for the loudest parts and leave it there. That way you'll preserve the sound levels as they were presented live. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 7:37 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > > > > At 02:37 AM 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote: > > >Really-From: DJS > > > > > > > > > > > >FSP-Amalthea-Hmm, the intro reminds me of Steve Roach's Empetus, which > > >is a good thing I guess...I like that album. The analog sequences are > > >brilliant in sound & composition but I have to say this: How many more > > >Sorcerer/Rubycon/Encore/Redshift/Phaedra songs do we need? > > > > As many as people can produce!!!! > > > > >Dano > > > > Morgan > > feldon@p... > > Incredible I'm saying this, but I find myself in utter agreement with > Dano for once. This is why I keep saying EM is a highly conservative > school with no more originality, everyone is only interested in > perpetuating the old sounds and styles. > > Gabe Heh heh, oh thanks Gabe heh. I'm not THAT bad am I?? Heh. I really liked Marcel & Grant's track for what they were...productions standards higher than TD in some cases...but I just can't get into anymore of that vintage stuff. It just kind of feels like all of these emusicians are buying new equipment and saying 'Hey, let's re-record Rubycon and see how much better or different we can be with updated synths!' I love classic albums...but when they are mimicked to death it takes something away. These types of tunes should be for Homages or tributes only...IMO anyway. happy day to all, Dano (who wouldn't wear a tie to work even if you put a gun to his head) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 6:56 pm Subject: Re: About Lars' Dubbing Hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-01 13:00:23 EST, you write: << >1) UNPACK your tapes. this doesn't just mean taking the wrapping off >;-) put new tapes in your deck and fast forward and rewind them one >time to loosen the tape spool. sometimes the tight factory winding >will cause some decks to drag or stop. [. . .] So, this isn't an 'old wives' tale,' eh? most definately not...u dont know how many times ive forgotten to do this, hit record, went to work and came home to find exactly 7 seconds recorded... >2) use good quality tapes. Maxell XLII tapes are generally a standard >although TDKsa tapes are also quite good (and a few seconds longer); >there are also better quality / audophile tapes as well such as XLIIS >and denon #s 8,9,10 etc. etc. Other than the Denon 10, arguably the best all-around tape is the Sony Pro. This is a chrome tape with a ceramic tape guide. The ceramic reduces wow and flutter more than any other tape available. agreed...but price is prohibitive...xl2 and sa is available everywhere and relatively inexpensive...i also like xl2-s... >5) buy and use wet and/or dry cleaners at least every 2 tapes -- or use >another method if you know how (like isopropyl alcohol and a good, >tightly rolled swab that won't leave little threads and fibers in your >tape mechanism). [. . .] I've heard that the cassette-shaped cleaners are not so great. they are better than nothing...maxell makes a decent cleaner thats cheap..and yes, by god, dont use q-tips...what a mess...next time you go to ur dentist, rip off those long stick jobs they use...perfect... >[. . .] Be sure that whatever you use cleans the capstan, rollers, >etc and not just the heads. Nein. Nyet. Non. Ixnay. Unless things have changed, DO NOT use head cleaner on the 'pinch roller' (the big black rubber wheel), because the alcohol will dry the wheel out so that it could crack or at least become abrasive to the tapes running over it. I have some rubber wheel cleaner/conditioner from about 10 years ago that is from Teac. They don't make it anymore and I've told that something else is now used to clean the pinch roller, but I can't recall what it is. Does anyone here know? Also, don't let head cleaner get on any of the plastic parts of the cassette drive mechanism because it can erode it slightly. ive never had that problem with the wheel cracking and i use distilled alchohol...but then again, ive never had a deck for 10 years either.... >9) check and replace your patch cords. if your patch cords are more >than 2 years old, chances are they need to be replaced before they >become fossilized ;-) if you live near the ocean, have salt-water >fish tanks (don't laugh, it's true ;-) or live in a corrosive >atmosphere, you'll need to check and replace your patch cords at least >every 6 months. if you have any doubts about them, replace them. You're kidding, right? I've never heard about this before. Care to elaborate? >> this is a new one on me too...gotta give it a try to see if i notice the difference... tom w np: plod = o'boy Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12543 Re: About Lars' Dubbing Hints John M. Poer Wed 4/1/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: Help! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Stephen, Frank' Could anybody help me trade for a copy of the following: Persistence of Vision: 30.11.96 London 'Live in London' 3CDR (concert+soundcheck)........ 196 7 CDR I would like to get this on CDR, but cannot only trade tapes from this end. Please contact me offlist for trade. Thanks. Frank From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 7:37 pm Subject: the things we do ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 wel its great to be back on the list.you wouldnt believe what i have had to do to get back on this list.first of all i found you by accident while at work playing on the email, things were going fine untill my boss found out i was e mailing outside the company for my self and i was given an ultimatum come off the thing or suffer the consequences, so i reluctantly came off it. i then bought my self a computer for my self at home with a cd writer no less so i can now burn my own cdrs.i then proceeded to get my self back on the list, well 3 servers later im back on to where its happening.bye for now recent e mail addresses are nick adams@c... nick@d... nick @erpland.force9.co.uk (there were one or two others) but now and hopefully for good im on nadams43@a... regards nick adams From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 12:02 pm Subject: Euro friends--need help and make it worth your effort ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox Greeting to my European friends! A friend of mine who is with the Shadows of Knight (Gloria-US version) is looking for copies of the single 'Gloria' by SOK from Euro pressings. He is offering good money for any finds. As you search your local used record shops, check and see if they have any old 7' singles of Gloria by SOK. If you find any, let me know and I will set about rewarding you for your efforts. Or if you have anybody who might be a contact, drop me a line! Thanks for the bandwidth! Mike mfox@i... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 12:13 pm Subject: Re: Rob Halford Chat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 01:37 PM 3/31/98 -0800, you wrote: >> Former Judas Priest front man Rob Halford discusses >What's this sh*t doing here? Dude, Everybody--in your highest pitch! Scream AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA! in a semi-musical tone. Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 7:55 pm Subject: Re: About Lars' Dubbing Hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 01:56 PM 4/1/1998 EST, you wrote: > >9) check and replace your patch cords. if your patch cords are more > >than 2 years old, chances are they need to be replaced before they > >become fossilized ;-) if you live near the ocean, have salt-water > >fish tanks (don't laugh, it's true ;-) or live in a corrosive > >atmosphere, you'll need to check and replace your patch cords at least > >every 6 months. if you have any doubts about them, replace them. > > You're kidding, right? I've never heard about this before. Care > to elaborate? > >> >this is a new one on me too...gotta give it a try to see if i notice the >difference... > I'll just jump in here..... After 30 years of installing, repairing, building, and otherwise playing with audio gear of almost every type I've come to realize that 80 percent of ALL audio problems are CONNECTORS (one way or another). Corrosion (visible or otherwise) definitely affects high frequencies and power in low voltage circuits (in high voltage circuits it can be tragic). When I have any reason to pull the cables from any of my devices, I give a serious look to the connectors (visual and electronic). By now all of mine are gold (that took a while I admit). There is a very good cleaner available through electronic stores called CRAMOLIN. This stuff is from CAIG Laboratories (www:caig.com) is the 'generic' name for more than one product they sell. They have cleaners and protectants for both gold and non-gold connectors. I also use it on the component side of things because some of my gear is old enough to have 'non-gold' connectors (RCA and other). I am not sure that gold connectors NEED this type cleaner, but they do make one. Be prepared, this stuff is NOT cheap, but a little bit goes a long ways. Even if you can't find this stuff, there are cleaners available from electronics stores that will do the job. Alcohol is not the best cleaner for corrosion on connectors. It does remove grease, which collects corrosive elements from the air (no it doesn't keep them away). FINE sandpaper does work but use care, most connectors have a VERY thin plating of corrosion resistant metal over something else (even GOLD connectors are just brass with about .0001' of gold). If you smoke (no social comment here) you'll have to clean more often. Whether or not it causes cancer, second hand smoke causes corrosion on metal connectors...as well as leaving an non-conductive film. 'Nuf said. This is all just my observation and philosophy, but it has worked for me. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 8:35 pm Subject: Re: Rob Halford Chat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'anja' Sorry, I am a big TD fan but also amired R. Halford of JP, great voice, performance and a legend in/of Heavy Metal music. Of course they have nothing to do with electronic music. Just open your mind folks ANJA -----Original Message----- From: tadream mailing list To: tadream@c... Date: woensdag 1 april 1998 22:04 Subject: Re: Rob Halford Chat >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: Michael Fox > > >At 01:37 PM 3/31/98 -0800, you wrote: > >>> Former Judas Priest front man Rob Halford discusses > >>What's this sh*t doing here? Dude, > >Everybody--in your highest pitch! Scream AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA! in a >semi-musical tone. > >Mike > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 10:20 pm Subject: RE: The Quest is over!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Ha ha VERY FUNNY MUTHAFU**A!!! (IN THE WORDS OF 'JEWELS' /Sam Jackson...PULP FICTION) Chris ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 11:03 AM To: tadream@c... Subject: The Quest is over!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' I went to a hole-in-the-wall used record store last night after work, flipped through soundtracks, and found: THE KEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately it cost me two hundred freakin' bucks!!! Luckily I was able to charge it, and once Steven sends me my reward I can pay my bill before the wife kicks my arse. The cover shows a shot of the front of the keep, with Juergen Prochnow, Gabriel Byrne, and the priest, and the back cover shows shots of Alberta Watson & Scott Glen gettin' it on, Scott & Molesar duking it out, Dr. What's-his-name, and the two German soldiers prying the cross out of the wall. Tracklist: Side 1: Opening theme/The Arrival 5:28 Moelsar is Released 2:54 Glaeken 1:57 The Night in Romania 3:16 Puer Natus est Nobis 3:09 The Challenger's Arrival 5:00 Side 2: Love Theme 5:32 Molesar 3:12 Escaping the Keep 3:01 Captured 2:30 Canzone 2:51 Triumph (End Theme) 3:38 It's on MCA, and the number is 1 201 315. The copy I got was near mint and polybagged. I haven't had a chance to play it yet. I asked the proprietor if he could get more, and he said that it was deleted before release and he was lucky to get the one he had. I left him my name & number and he said if any more turn up he'll let me know. I scanned the cover this moring and put it on my web page. You can see it at: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palladium/5728/index.html Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 10:35 pm Subject: Re: Goldtri CD emusic review (long) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 4/1/98 10:16:11 AM PST, tadream@c... writes: > Well, Mr. Genius, this post relates to TD inspired music and it also > pertains to several members on this particular list. I didn't see you > bitch about that Rob Halford posting so just get back into bed and take > a nap until you are feeling better. > > Cheers pilgrim, > > Dano As a matter of fact, I did bitch about the Halford post. We can argue if you like....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 1, 1998 11:19 pm Subject: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' I have gathered by reading different sources, that the Poland 2CD does not truly reflect that concert. So how different was the actual show and what was released and why? Kevin ps. I am still looking for any videos of the group.....please mail me!!! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12558 Re: Poland feldon@p... Thu 4/2/1998 3 KB 12994 Poland jowers Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13001 Re: Poland MPOORT Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13009 Re: Poland Andrew J. Rozsa Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13007 Re: Poland Plumer, Scott Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13131 Poland jowers Sat 4/18/1998 2 KB 13132 Poland jowers Sat 4/18/1998 2 KB 16796 Poland Derk Fri 6/11/1999 1 KB 16797 Re: Poland yannick.edom@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx Fri 6/11/1999 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Clarification re RISKY B Variants on E.O. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:55:23 EST >Subject: Re: On Edgar's Lack of Omniscience and THE KEEP >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >Mr. Feldman writes: > >>And how about the versions of 'The Dream is Always the Same' and 'Love >>on a Real Train' that appeared on the first two LP pressings of RISKY >>BUSINESS (and now on ELECTRONIC ORGY)? They sound more like tracks >>from LEGEND than anything else, and yet LEGEND wasn't released until >>1986, whereas RISKY BUSINESS was in 1983. > >I'm not sure what Soundtrack you're listening to, but almost everything >except LOART (which I never grow tired of) was previously released. In *both* versions of the RISKY B soundtrack, the first and last of the five TD tracks ('The Dream Remains the Same' and 'Risky Business (Love on a Real Train)') contain no previously-released TD unless one counts the title track to POLAND in the case of the latter. >The intro from Tangram and Stratosfear, cuts from Force Majeure. [...] Huh?!? My immediate memory says that there is the title track to EXIT, the section of the title track of FORCE MAJEURE 8.5 minutes in, and 'Cloudburst Flight'--but no STRATOSFEAR or TANGRAM. Interestingly, although 'Guido the Killer Pimp' is mostly an adapted version of 'Cloudburst Flight,' the opening part of it is much like the title track to the Pink Floyd soundtrack OBSCURED BY CLOUDS. >[...] On the other hand, Legend is almost original in its composition. Maybe, but it's production sound is evident on the 1st LP pressing of the RISKY BUSINESS soundtrack. (The sound on the first and last TD tracks on the 2nd LP pressing and on the CD are more like the sound on WHITE EAGLE than on the LEGEND soundtrack.) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12588 Re: Clarification re RISKY B Variants on E.O. Gibbons, Conrad Fri 4/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: The Poster in the ANALOGUE SPACE YEARS Compilation CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:09:40 -0800 >Subject: Re: D: TD: The Analogue Space Years 1969-1973 >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: PENFOLD > >[. . .] Inside is a poster with a B&W pic of Froese/Franke/Baumann >posed in front of their equipment (patch cords.....yow!) The picture--which was even bigger then--first appeared in the '70-'80 boxed set, if I remember correctly (it's either from that or from the booklet in the IN THE BEGINNING boxed set; it's been a long time since I opened those records up). -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12551 Re: The Poster in the ANALOGUE SPACE YEARS Compil Jeffrey Au-Yeung Thu 4/2/1998 3 KB 12554 Re: The Poster in the ANALOGUE SPACE YEARS Compil MCINTYRE@p... Thu 4/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 12:26 pm Subject: Tangerine Dream & Golf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: sbm@p... (Steve McCready) Another instance of TD as 'tv background music' - the last couple of weeks (and maybe beforehand), NBC has been using 'Melrose' as background music when they show the helicopter flybys of the different holes. And, while on the subject of this combination, has anyone seen 'Dead Solid Perfect'? Is it any good? -Steve sbm@p... Sacramento, CA Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12600 Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf AOutland Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 5:56 am Subject: Re: The Poster in the ANALOGUE SPACE YEARS Compilation CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >>Really-From: PENFOLD >> >>[. . .] Inside is a poster with a B&W pic of Froese/Franke/Baumann >>posed in front of their equipment (patch cords.....yow!) > Is the poster included in a CD package during purchase, or instead one to be obtained by a coupon or something? Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 5:54 am Subject: French Rockoon CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Hi Collectors, I have 2 spare copies of the French Rockoon CD (Editions Altas RK CD 501) available for swap. This CD has the strange EF-CF-PB line up cover. If interested, contact me off list for details. Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 31, 1998 5:58 pm Subject: Re: New Member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >>'Oasis' >>'The Dream Mixes' >>'Underwater Sunlight' >>'Optical Race' >>'Tangram' >>'Melrose' >'Logos' >'Force Majeure' >'Oasis' >'The Dream Mixes' >'Livemiles' >'Poland 2CD' Hmmmm... how about Underwater Sunlight Logos Stratosfear Dream Mixes Ricochet Goblin's Club I see a storm a'brewin'! Lawry lawrysimm@u... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 16276 New Member piano_man@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Sun 5/9/1999 1 KB 16279 Re: New Member John Marchington Mon 5/10/1999 2 KB 25797 New Member Mike Oles Thu 1/25/2001 2 KB 25799 Re: New Member Joe Shoults Thu 1/25/2001 2 KB 36181 New Member David daventura98 Sun 9/15/2002 2 KB 36188 Re: New Member Dennis Nigbur dennisnigbur Sun 9/15/2002 2 KB 36199 Re: New Member Armin Theissen armin_theissen Mon 9/16/2002 3 KB 36206 Re: New Member Adele Outland outlanda60 Mon 9/16/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 1:32 pm Subject: Re: The Poster in the ANALOGUE SPACE YEARS Compilation CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: MCINTYRE@p... >Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >>[. . .] Inside is a poster with a B&W pic of Froese/Franke/Baumann >>posed in front of their equipment (patch cords.....yow!) >Is the poster included in a CD package during purchase, or instead one to be >obtained by a coupon or something? The poster is included in the package, although the box does state 'limited edition poster', so it's possible that the next pressing will not include the poster. On the other paw, since removing the poster would require redoing the box to omit mention of the poster, maybe they'll continue to include it. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 2:49 pm Subject: re: dubbing hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> scott writes: >Some folks insist on paying big money for Monster cable, but they're >wasting their money. -- I'm not so sure about that... the monster cable (monster cable speaker wire wins hands down over ordinary lamp cord... there are other alternatives as well, some may be even better) gold connector patch cords come in a variety of prices, from about $15-20 per 1 meter **single RCA pin cord** (you'll need two) up to about $200 per same. all of these have significantly better EM shielding as well... they certainly seem to make a difference... besides sandpaper just leaves a rough surface so you end up with less actual surface area in contact with the connector... and don't you find it really hard to sand the *inside* of those RCA connectors? besides if you do replace your patch cords regularly, the cheap monster cables will end up paying for themselves... 'molasar the spam vampire' writes: > Nein. Nyet. Non. Ixnay. Unless things have changed, DO NOT > use head cleaner on the 'pinch roller' (the big black rubber wheel), > because the alcohol will dry the wheel out so that it could crack or > at least become abrasive to the tapes running over it. -- well steve most of us will burn out our decks long before we have any problems like this. Besides even the **manufacturers** of my decks (sony & yamaha) recommend 'with the tape deck turned off, wipe the heads, the pinch rollers and the capstans with a cotton swab slightly moistened with alcohol or a commercially available cleaning fluid for tape decks.' Now, I'm more apt to pay attention to the manufacturer's instructions than your recommendations, based as they apparently are, on 10-year-old hearsay(?). certainly too much alcohol may be a problem but unless you can come with with an **available** alternative... if it's not available steve, why even bother to recommend it? all you will do is encourage people not to clean for fear of causing a problem and the result is lower sound quality... I'm sure even your teac conditioner/cleaner has lifespan/limit... and 10years is probably long past it... perhaps you're doing more damage? any other opinions out there? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12562 Re: dubbing hints NEMO1876@P... Thu 4/2/1998 2 KB 12564 Re: dubbing hints Plumer, Scott Thu 4/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:14 pm Subject: MOBOCASTER/TIMESQUARE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Funny...of all the tracks on TIMESQUARE, that is my least favorite... I would go so far as to suggest begining playing it the disc on track 2. Overall it is an enjoyable disc, but keep in mind in contains snippets of remixes of old stuff, not entire remixes of old songs... The CD itself has some interesting artwork on it... Though the selection of some of the font colors seems hard to understand... I half expected Thief Yang and Das Madchen to show up here, but fortunatel for collectors the singles still have some value... MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12566 Re: TIMESQUARE Sean Montgomery Thu 4/2/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:18 pm Subject: Blue Room Project ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean I have heard this Baumann / Haslinger project in its entirety (though I don't have a copy of it)... It is pleasant in parts but never seems to come together as a whole (which undoubtably is one reason it was never released)... Better to move on to other things... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:16 pm Subject: Re: Poland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 05:19 PM 4/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >Really-From: 'jowers' > >I have gathered by reading different sources, that the Poland 2CD does not >truly reflect that concert. So how different was the actual show and what >was released and why? It's one of the closest to the concert they have ever released. The only two major differences are that the power went out a couple times during the concert, so there are some crafty fades on the 2CD. Secondly, the last 6 minutes of disc 1 'Rarebird' are actually an ENCORE played after the two discs. I guess Edgar couldn't fit it at the end of the 2nd LP. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:27 pm Subject: D: Live Discussion Wrong Post ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Sorry for wrong post delivered :( Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:23 pm Subject: Re: proposed D:LIVE! discussion schedule ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Section 1 1997 European Tour & Boots 4.16.97 Berlin (Hochschule der Kuenste) 170 min. (Au) 4.18.97 Frankfurt/Neu-Isenberg (Hugenottenhalle) Boots: Goblins Live Club Box Tapes: 150 min (Au + Vid) Hi Lars, Glad that you received the video safely. I have one question to ask. I see from this post regarding the D: Live discussion 2 items of interest. Do you have any idea who will have these material? Any help will be appreciated. Regards, Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:15 pm Subject: Dead Solid Perfect /Golf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean I do have a copy of the film off the TV... Not a particularly great film, but the music does fit it well... The theme was adultery if I remeber correctly... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 2:59 am Subject: re: dubbing hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NEMO1876@P... unsubscribe tadream unsubscribe tadream-diges From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:41 pm Subject: what the &*#@! is a tape tree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 sorry for this yet again (courtesy of the floyd list) but it seems that either there are alot of new list people, or no one keeps their mail, but im getting way to many queries about the subject...so, to keep it simple, here is yet another description...btw, the structure will be posted tomorrow by 16:00 est, giving u 8 hours for complaints, etc, and then it will be closed at midnight... tom w np: genesis - british bisquit - 1977 ##### ## ##### ###### ##### ##### ###### ###### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # ##### ##### # ###### ##### # # ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### # # # ###### ###### If a tapetree falls in the cyber-forest, and there is noone around to hear it, would it make a sound ? Wot's .. uh .. the deal ? A tape tree is a way to get a tape spread out fast through many people. Example: The Essential Roio Tree. I have a set of roio tapes that I think any serious floyd fan should hear. There are (at a rough estimate) a 150 serious floyd fans who do not yet have this particular tape on echoes. This would mean I would have to dub 150 copies.so I organise a tree. I [0] dub a copy for 5 people [1] who each dub a copy for 5 people [2] who make a copy for 5 people [3], and so 150 people have gotten a copy, while noone had to make more than 5 dubs. Any colour you like You can be either a SOURCE: -> meaning you already have the tape that's being treed, and you're willing to dub copies [0] in the above a SOURCE is sometimes known as SEED. BRANCH: -> you don't yet have a copy, but if you get a copy through the tree, you are willing to DUB copies [1] and [2] in the above BRANCH LEADER: -> aka TOP LEVEL BRANCH, the persons who are getting copies straight from the SOURCE, [1] LEAF: -> you don't have a copy, you do want one, but you are unable to dub copies, due to lack of time and/or lack of decent equipment.[3] PARENT/CHILD: A PARENT dubs copies for his/her CHILD, a CHILD gets copies from the PARENT. in the above [1] is the PARENT of [2], [2] is the CHILD of [1], and the PARENT of [3], [3] is the CHILD of [2]. Take up they tapedeck and play How to get your copy ? Sign up for the tree, after an announced period of time everyone who has signed up receives a copy of the full tree structure, and a note gets posted to echoes saying that the copy has been mailed out to all who participated, or if the tree is large, a note is posted to echoes, saying that the treestructure is made public on http://some.web.site/some/where, and that those whitout webacces, should contact the organizer to receive a copy of the structure. Many people prefer to get a confirmation when they sign up, but it's a lot of work to confirm each message you get, so not all tree managers do this. If you did sign up, but didn't get a copy this is the moment to contact the organizer. Biding my time Once you have gotten the structure, wait for your branchleader to contact you, or contact him, and if you are a SOURCE or BRANCH, contact your leaves. And then have patience .. your parent does her best to get the tapes out as fast as she can, and so do her parents, but tape trees can easily get delayed .. international mail takes a week (maybe two) to get around, dubbing takes time. On a big tree (6 tapes per dub) estimate a month delay for each level between you and the source, and that is provided nothing strange happens to cause further delays. Money Tape trees are done for fun, and to spread good music around, not for monetary gain .. act accordingly .. You either trade with your branch, or do a 2:1 trade [see further on] What shall we do now ? Proper behaviour: the following are just guidelines, no rules, just guidelines. *administrator* - shall allow enough time for people to sign up - shall make it clear when the deadline for subscription is - shall not flood echoes with subscription info (once a week is enough) - shall keep echoes up-to-date w.r.t. relevant info. - shall be there to help solve conflicts/problems on the tree - shall do her best to make sure people can get the tree structure - shall not beat people out of frustartion when things go again different than planned Tree PARENT: - shall contact her children upon receiving the tapes from her PARENT. - shall contact CHILD upon receiving of the tapetreesturcture to arrange the trade - shall do her upmost to get the tapes to her CHILDren asap. - shall _never_ _ever_ _under_ *NO* _circumstance_ use HiSpeed dubbing, nor autoreverse dubbing. Tree CHILD: - shall contact PARENT upon reception of the tree sturcture to arrange the trade * Trade shows or trade 2:1 blanks * type of tapes, what length * send tapes or tapes and boxes - shall mail a complete package to PARENT including * the trade * wot's uh the deal was (a printout of the last (few)emails works miracles * the return adress. - shall have patience - shall mail a note after receiving the tapes - shall not complain on echoes about the trade, but shall try to work things out with parent, or failing that with the administrator. The happiest tapes of out lives Mailing the tapes -- more guidelines -- (again this is all MHO, guidelines, not rules) * use a padded envelope * make your envelope reusable, safe the rainforests * reuse envelopes * pack your tapes correctly - if you send tapes with boxes, magic tape them together, so that they form one stronger whole (remember aesop) - if you send tapes sans boxes (I prefer this) -> if doing a 2:1 trade, the extra tapes should be sent WITH boxes unless otherwise agreed with parent use some elastic band (or suchlike) to keep the tapes tightly wound (put band through holes, wrap around the back, pronto). do *not* scotch tape tapes whitout boxes together * if you do a 2:1 trade, send *new* tapes, in boxes. * use enough postage * when mailing international, mail tapes as GIFT on the custom form * when mailinbg crosscontinental, send tapes AIRMAIL (from me (netherlands) to australia takes less than 2 weeks airmail, but takes over 2 months per seamail) A sourcefull of secrets Other sources of information * the trading guidelines on echoserv (email to echoserv@t... with a body of) send trading.guidelines echoes quit * the phish archives (www.phish.net) have a few chapters about tapetrees. * the broken arrow (Neil Young) website has some info and pointers as well 2:1 trades For each tape you want atped, you sent 2 tapes. One will get send back to you, the other tapes is to cover postage costs for the taper. The second tape should preferably be a new TDK SA-90 or Maxell Xl-II 90 tape (the tapetraders unit of currency). Buying tapes. The following adresses have been recommended to me by ``satisfied customers'', as suppliers of tapes for a decent price. * USA ``btw, for USA Branches: If you need to buy blanks at cheap prices. Call my friends at Terrapin Tapes in Greenwich, CT. They have damn good prices! Shipping is free if you buy 50 or more tapes! Call them at 1-800-677-8650.'' * Europe > email: sales@t... > Web: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tapehouse __________________________________________ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:54 pm Subject: RE: dubbing hints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >for fear of causing a problem and the result is lower sound quality... I'm >sure even your teac conditioner/cleaner has lifespan/limit... and 10years >is probably long past it... perhaps you're doing more damage? >any other opinions out there? Yes. I just retired my Tascam deck that was well-nigh 15 years old (the motor died :-( ). I regularly cleaned the heads, capstan & roller with medical-quality cotton swabs (no, I'm not anal, they're just cheaper is all) dipped in alcohol (per the manufacturer's instructions) and never had a problem with the roller cracking. Alcohol will crack some forms of rubber, but I bet the rollers are made out of a rubber that's resistant to it. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 3:50 pm Subject: last call for tape trees #3-4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Dreamers Tape trees #3&4 are now being organized! the tape list is attached below; Again, this is a NO-Profit deal for anyone. *** this is the last call, the trees close on friday*** ***All levels of participation are welcome, even if you have nothing to trade.*** If you can't make copies, then just sign up as a leaf. We want everyone possible to be able to hear this music. If you want to participate, please contact tom w. with the following info: 1) name 2) e-mail address 3) your geographical location (city, state, country -- for organizational purposes) 4) at what level you want to participate (eg source, digital branch, analog branch, leaf) what resources you have (eg: a cdr burner--if so, can you do analog->digital?; DAT cloning; analog dubbing deck or 2 MC decks; or only digital->analog [ie: CD to MC]) 5) can you provide masters, lo-gen tapes, CD/R boots, etc for this tree? you will need to either provide trade material to your source or will need to provide sufficient blank tape and an SASE for return of the tapes. Branch-branch deals should use priority mail postage. --> if you still owe blank/trade tapes to your parent/branch trees #1+2, please make good on your obligation so that you can continue to participate in these trees ------------------------------------------------------------ Abbreviations and Format: Month.Day.Year City (Venue) Time (Medium of original source) Original sources: Au = audience; SB = soundboard; FM, TV = broadcast; Vid.= Video; Media (self-explanatory?): MC = cassette tape; LP -= vinyl; CD; CDR; Vid = video; LD (laser disc) ------------------------------------------------------------ tree 3 (2c90s + c100) --> c90 #1 8.16.75 Orange (Festival Pop d'Orange, Theatre Antique et Gymnase) 59 min. (Au) MC (4th generation; Oranges From France; Seekers of Dreams) 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) full encore 20 min. (Au) MC PLUS: --> c90#2: 9.23.75 Reims (Opera House) 85 min. (Au) MC PLUS: --> c100#1 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) 100 min (Au) MC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - tree 4: (3c90s) --> c90#1 2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University) 105 min (Au) MC (3rd gen) PLUS --> c90 #2 11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) MC (2nd gen.) PLUS --> c90 #3: 6.27.76 Berlin (Philharmonic) 33 min. (FM) CDR (The Dream Is Not Always The Same [best]; Danger Live, part 2; Tape Trax 2) 2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University) 105 min (Au) MC (--part 2) 11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) MC (--part 2) --------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 5:58 pm Subject: Re: TIMESQUARE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery I was really looking forward to hearing this, having liked the first Dream Mixes a great deal. Initially, I liked enough of the sequel to give it a provisional 'thumbs-up.' Now, a few months later, my enthusiasm for it has cooled somewhat. As others have noted, TimeSquare loses much of the first DMs' energy and sense of purpose. Which did not have to be a bad thing...I mean, TD are not Orbital or the Chemical Brothers. They're obviously trying to make music which stays true to themselves. Unfortunately, I don't find that this particular effort to do that succeeds very often. It's an okay, but somewhat passionless album. It's nice to see Jerome take a shot at Drum n' Bass in 'Digital Sister, but it lacks the necessary testosterone if you ask me. There's no sense of danger in these experiments; they hold back too much; and use sweet sounds that don't really gel with the primal world of dance music. If you really want to shake people's ass, you have to be willing to go for the throat. Mind you, TD can still compose a decent melody. And really, I think all DM2 needed were some more extremes, and a little editing. More moments of silence/ambience and more moments of intensity...harsher sounds. Maybe 1998 will find the band delivering that. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 6:47 pm Subject: Re: TIMESQUARE please remove me from this list!!! unsubscribe tadream!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: JW tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > I was really looking forward to hearing this, having liked the first Dream > Mixes a great deal. Initially, I liked enough of the sequel to give it a > provisional 'thumbs-up.' Now, a few months later, my enthusiasm for it > has cooled somewhat. As others have noted, TimeSquare loses much of the > first DMs' energy and sense of purpose. Which did not have to be a bad > thing...I mean, TD are not Orbital or the Chemical Brothers. They're > obviously trying to make music which stays true to themselves. > Unfortunately, I don't find that this particular effort to do that > succeeds very often. It's an okay, but somewhat passionless album. It's > nice to see Jerome take a shot at Drum n' Bass in 'Digital Sister, but it > lacks the necessary testosterone if you ask me. There's no sense of > danger in these experiments; they hold back too much; and use sweet sounds > that don't really gel with the primal world of dance music. If you really > want to shake people's ass, you have to be willing to go for the throat. > > Mind you, TD can still compose a decent melody. And really, I think all > DM2 needed were some more extremes, and a little editing. More moments > of silence/ambience and more moments of intensity...harsher sounds. Maybe > 1998 will find the band delivering that. > > unsubsribe tadream-digest > SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator > > T O P I X / Mad Dog > http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 7:19 pm Subject: What I look like... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hi Guys! Just in case anyone wants to see the face behind the name....our carpet store has put a picture of me up on our site. To access it go to: http://www.carpetone.com/locator/storeloc.asp pick UNITED STATES, and enter 48043 in the zip code section. This will take you to our store site, just click on and go to the meet our staff in the upper left hand corner. And there I am in all my poor picture taking glory! Now for the TD portion of the letter , does anyone happen to have a movie trailer on videocassette for THE KEEP? Let me know if you do. Thanks Chris Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12575 Re: What I look like... Plumer, Scott Thu 4/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 8:21 pm Subject: hello! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: JW 'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream-digest' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12571 Re: hello! Marcel Engels Thu 4/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: pal szatmari I can understand and agree with Andrew when he writes: '[...] Listening to music cannot be reduced to a simple physiological state. I would hope there is more than just physiology. Like feelings. I smile when I listen to TD. I am calmer. The world appears to be a better place. [...]' TD's music lives inside me. It is an integral part of me like having another organ somewhere between my heart and lungs. I cannot say it changed me. It seems as if it had always been there. I would not even call it music (now: some critics could rejoice at this last statement :-). It is something more essential like the flow of blood. Listen to the sounds of your universe! Paul np: 220 Big Volt From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 8:50 pm Subject: Re: hello! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: JW > > >'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream-digest' HELLO! Can you read???????? Header says!!!!!: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 8:58 pm Subject: Re: hello! GET ME OFF THIS LIST!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: JW tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: JW > > 'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream-digest' 'unsubsribe tadream' unsubsribe tadream-digest' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 8:59 pm Subject: Re: hello! GET ME OFF THIS LIST, THANKYOU!!! STOP SENDING ME THIS!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: JW tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: JW > > 'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream-digest' 'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream-digest' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12581 Re: hello! GET ME OFF THIS LIST, THANKYOU!!! ST DJS Fri 4/3/1998 4 KB 12582 Re: hello! GET ME OFF THIS LIST, THANKYOU!!! ST TWeibre361 Fri 4/3/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 9:01 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THIS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: JW tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: pal szatmari > > I can understand and agree with Andrew when he writes: > > '[...] Listening to music cannot be reduced to a simple physiological > state. I would hope there is more than just physiology. Like > feelings. I smile when I listen to TD. I am calmer. The world > appears to be a better place. [...]' > > TD's music lives inside me. It is an integral part of me like having > another organ somewhere between my heart and lungs. > I cannot say it changed me. It seems as if it had always been there. > I would not even call it music (now: some critics could rejoice at this > last statement :-). It is something more essential like the flow of blood. > > Listen to the sounds of your universe! > > Paul > > np: 220 Big Volt unsubsribe tadream unsubsribe tadream-digest Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12579 Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING M Vincent Goudreault Thu 4/2/1998 3 KB 12590 Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING M Michael Fox Fri 4/3/1998 3 KB 12591 Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING M Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/3/1998 3 KB 12633 Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING M Michael Fox Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB 12606 Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING M Greg Heil Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 9:28 pm Subject: RE: What I look like... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > Just in case anyone wants to see the face behind the name....our carpet store has put a >picture of me up on our site. To access it go to: So is that your dad that owns the store? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 9:32 pm Subject: how dream music changed me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 when i was 15 in 75 i heard ricochet on the radio and to be honest it blew me away,before that i had been listening to black sabbath,deep purple,hawkwind,camel etc not that theres anything wrong with those groups, i mean i still listen to em now,but it was like, it set me on a road of discovery into mind music at the time, which led to klause schulze, eloy, neuronium, jurgen pluta, can, serge blenner, cybotron to name just a few.i think if i hadnt heard t dream that day i probably would never of found out about electronic music( i hate the term new age ) and yes i think t dream did there best stuff while they were with virgin records.theyve done some reasonable stuff since virgin of course but imo a lot of dross. regards nick adams From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 10:32 pm Subject: RE: What I look like...noTD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Yes sir Scott, that's pops, and he pays me far less than anyone else! Chris ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 4:28 PM To: tadream@c... Subject: RE: What I look like... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > Just in case anyone wants to see the face behind the name....our carpet store has put a >picture of me up on our site. To access it go to: So is that your dad that owns the store? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 10:50 pm Subject: tapes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> thanks to scott and steven f for the terrapin tapes reference!! killer prices! lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 2, 1998 11:05 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THIS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: JW > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > (...) > unsubsribe tadream unsubsribe tadream-digest ^^ ^^ The idiot can't spell 'unsubscribe'. I say let him suffer a while longer... C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 12:01 am Subject: Late Delivery from Avalon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean The flaw on the track only appears on the original US pressing (I think)... A corrected version is now out and Sonic Images will replace the defective one at no charge (at least if you bought it directly from them).... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 1:39 am Subject: Re: hello! GET ME OFF THIS LIST, THANKYOU!!! STOP SENDING ME THIS!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: JW > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Really-From: JW > > > > 'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream-digest' > 'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream-digest' Don't bother JW..you are stuck here...FOREVER!!!!!...or at least until you learn how to read. ;-) Dano 'Follow your dreams, you can reach your goals....I'm living proof!' (Eric Cartman) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 2:14 am Subject: Re: hello! GET ME OFF THIS LIST, THANKYOU!!! STOP SENDING ME THIS!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-02 19:41:35 EST, you write: << Don't bother JW..you are stuck here...FOREVER!!!!!...or at least until you learn how to read. ;-) >> or write... tom w np: the epidemics=s/t From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 2:27 am Subject: thanx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jen Phillips I got replies from many of the members of this list after introducing myself. I just wanted to say thanks to all of you that gave me info and links to Tangerine Dream pages. I appreciated it. Thanks... -- Jen jenmp@s... 'or' enigma2@g... Visit My Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/4032/index.html UIN: 1134643 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 37257 thanx Fred Yargui fredyargui Fri 11/22/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 4:43 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jen Phillips Hi Scott. Do you have a web page where I can check out info about your book? I'm interested in finding out about it. Thanks... > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > My suggestion: first, buy my TD book. :-) Then, buy more of the > compilations, preferably one that spans a long time. Then use those to > determine which TD tunes you like, and buy the albums that have those > tunes on them. If you listen to the suggestions from us of which > specific album to buy, you'll end up buy the whole catalog, since each > of us has a different opinion. Once you've bought all the stuff that the > comps are drawn from, you can unload the comps on the list. > > A word of warning, though: be prepared to buy A LOT! they have > over 100 album, single and soundtrack releases. > > Scott -- Jen jenmp@s... 'or' enigma2@g... Visit My Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/4032/index.html UIN: 1134643 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12585 Re: new member Elias Granillo, Jr. Fri 4/3/1998 3 KB 21177 new member Michael V Miller Thu 3/9/2000 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 4:58 am Subject: Re: new member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Jen Phillips > > > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > My suggestion: first, buy my TD book. :-) Then, buy more of the > > Hi Scott. Do you have a web page where I can check out info about your book? I'm > interested in finding out about it. > > Thanks... Hey, Jen you also get the *new tadream subscriber* discount from Scott!!!!! E-Man (hehe...) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 5:57 am Subject: Keyboard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' If any of the musicians here play a Yamaha DX7IIFD w/E! Upgrade, please mail me OFF-LIST!!! I know it's stretching thin, but I'm desperate..... Kevin jowers@i... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 7:25 am Subject: Re: Keyboard (DX72FDE) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'jowers' > > If any of the musicians here play a Yamaha DX7IIFD w/E! Upgrade, please > mail me OFF-LIST!!! > > I know it's stretching thin, but I'm desperate..... > Kevin > Not too thin...I happen to own one. I bought that baby back in 1988..and Eli was there for that historical moment. It was my first synth (not counting casios hehehe) & I still have it...in fact I just used it to help compose my debut CD, Nominal Gain (due out soon...but only as a promotional piece). Aside from the lowish polyphony & now disliked FM synthesis it's a damn fine keyboard. It was very powerful for it's time. The last of the DX7's it basically was. I remember Edgar used on during the Livemiles era. He phased it out pretty quickly though...but he managed to keep that 'stratotro' voice that got incredibly old on all the mirimar releases. Wonder if Ed still has it. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 1:29 pm Subject: RE: Clarification re RISKY B Variants on E.O. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' > >The intro from Tangram and Stratosfear, cuts from Force Majeure. > [...] > > Huh?!? My immediate memory says that there is the title track to > EXIT, the section of the title track of FORCE MAJEURE 8.5 minutes in, > and 'Cloudburst Flight'--but no STRATOSFEAR or TANGRAM. > I recorded the music from the video a few years ago. Music very similar to the intro from Tangram Set One is indeed played once or twice in the movie. No Future (Get Off The Babysitter) is based on the track 'Exit' but without the lead line and raining sound effects! Regards, Conrad Gibbons E-mail:conrad.gibbons@l... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 5:03 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream and golf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dr. George Choksy' Yes, I saw 'Dead Solid Perfect' on late night TV several years ago and I liked it a lot, even though I'm not into golf. Randy Quaid had the lead role, a pro-circuit golfer who finally hits his stride one year and plays a dead solid perfect game for the big money. Very entertaining, and Randy Quaid is a drop-dead great actor, IMHO. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 11:45 am Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THIS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox JW--thanks for all the spam--to get off the list read the paragraph inbetween the dotted lines. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12591 Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING M Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/3/1998 3 KB 12633 Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING M Michael Fox Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 6:37 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THIS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 11:45 AM 4/3/1998, Michael Fox wrote: >JW--thanks for all the spam--to get off the list read the paragraph No use, Michael. This person is a moron. I have sent him direct e-mail. I broke down the paragraph into digestible bites, highlighting the address and the proper format for unsubscribing. I even spelled out U-N-S-U-B-S-C-R-I-B-E for 'it' because 'it' seems to be deficient in more ways than one. At this point all we can hope for is hospitalization and rehab in a Closed Head Injury ward. Sheeeesh.... Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 8:16 pm Subject: Trade List On-Line ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Hi fellow Dreamers, I've just overhauled my home website (haven't touched it in almost 9 months). You can find my latest TD wish/trade list at: http://idt.net/~torque19/td_trade.htm This URL has changed since I last posted it. Anyway, if you browse around and follow some of my links, you'll see a photo of me (I don't take good pictures), many photos of my fiancee, a photo of Elana (GoldTri list keeper), etc... Anyway, if you browse around (other than the TD trade list), you'll discover what a strange guy I am with a pretty big ego, heh heh. You'll love it Dano! BTW, let me know if you find any items you need or have on my TD lists. Thanks, Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12594 Find the Fish Sean Montgomery Fri 4/3/1998 3 KB 12595 Re: Trade List On-Line DJS Fri 4/3/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 9:10 pm Subject: tape tree #3 & 4 : here it is ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 here it is .... any problems let me know....tapes will be shipped to branches imminently...get in touch with ur branch leaders...if i forgot anyone let me know...dub on...im outta here... tom w np: td in paris 81 (S) 105411.3107@c... EUROPE (1) hkraft@c... (1.1) fsalgado@c... (1.2) fred.yarqui@w... 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(tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 9:41 pm Subject: Find the Fish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Anyway, if you browse around and follow some of my links, you'll see a > photo of Elana (GoldTri list keeper) Seeing the picture of Elana, I now understand what you guys mean when you refer to the 'trout'. Eeeeeeek.... I can also see why you got smitten by Natasha, Vic! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 11:18 pm Subject: Re: Trade List On-Line ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Really-From: Vic Rek > > Hi fellow Dreamers, > > I've just overhauled my home website (haven't touched it in almost 9 > months). You can find my latest TD wish/trade list at: > > http://idt.net/~torque19/td_trade.htm > > This URL has changed since I last posted it. > Anyway, if you browse around and follow some of my links, you'll see a > photo of me (I don't take good pictures), many photos of my fiancee, a > photo of Elana (GoldTri list keeper), etc... Anyway, if you browse > around (other than the TD trade list), you'll discover what a strange > guy I am with a pretty big ego, heh heh. You'll love it Dano! > > BTW, let me know if you find any items you need or have on my TD lists. > Thanks, > Vic Hey, I'll check it out! Did you need that single of Midnight In Tula with the remixed dub on it I have? Oh wait, darn...I sold that already to some guy in Belgium. Oh well, hehe. Onward to check yer website. Even though it has a picture of Elana (Personally I'd rather look at the digestion tract of a goat) I'll check it out. Hey, I'll finally get to see what you look like there Vico heh heh. Hey, are you saying I have a big ego? Heh heh. You must have me confused with someone who smells like a giant rotting fish...heh heh. BTW, if anyone has traded anything with me your package will be in the mail by tomorrow. I've been swamped by comic book work, music compositions without Mellotron patches, useless email responses from ranting fishy people & soforth. So be patient pilgrims...as Jack Burton would say: 'the check is in the mail'. Dano the happy dude, who doesn't surf because he saw Mysterious Island & never recovered from the giant crab fight. PS: In case anyone cares, the BOTCON convention is coming in Anaheim, CA & Vince Dicola, keyboard virtuoso, will be there. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman I now have a copy of the Relativity POLAND 2-CD set that comes in a slimline case, and a copy that comes in a double-jewel case, so I can say with certainty that the following is so (at least as far as the two CDs *I* have are concerned): o the text on the disks in the slimline set is printed in brown o the text on the disks in the double-case set is printed in blue -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12597 Re: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case Steven Feldman Fri 4/3/1998 4 KB 12603 Re: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case Vic Rek Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB 12608 Re: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case feldon@p... Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 10:59 pm Subject: RE: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS For what it's worth , the first thing I did upon receiving the Poland double case was put it in a single case. I don't need two copies just for the diff type (until I can afford it of course...). Chris AW HA HA .......Christ !!! ........Jack Burton ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 5:30 PM To: tadream@c... Subject: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman I now have a copy of the Relativity POLAND 2-CD set that comes in a slimline case, and a copy that comes in a double-jewel case, so I can say with certainty that the following is so (at least as far as the two CDs *I* have are concerned): o the text on the disks in the slimline set is printed in brown o the text on the disks in the double-case set is printed in blue -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 11:32 pm Subject: Vic's Page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA I don't know about anybody else, but I had a real hard time reading that yellow on gray. My God, Elana's arm is bigger than your head....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 2:04 am Subject: UPdated: Cd's available ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TB220 Here are the Cd's available on the updated list: Phaedra -> has a full length scratch that does not effect its play Rockoon Tangram Tyranny of Beauty Le Parc 220 Volt Live ATEM Force Majeure more information at my address ----------------------------------------------> hiawatha@s... rob. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 3:03 am Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-02 00:28:47 EST, you write: << And, while on the subject of this combination, has anyone seen 'Dead Solid Perfect'? Is it any good? >> This movie stars Randy Quaid I believe who, as a romantic lead, leaves a lot to be desired IMO. Other than a few rounds of golf, most of the action seems to be centered around him being unfaithful to his wife and his wife being unfaithful in retaliation. His golf game suffers. In the end, after his wife is hospitalized, he realizes how much he loves her and she rallies enough to support him on his most important golf game in his life so that he can finally score one for the gipper so to speak. Oops, did I spoil the ending? The music throughout is mostly a very repetitious hushed ambience quite suitable for a golf shot, but not that interesting to listen to. The album is rated last on Theissen's (?) poll, but there are flashes of melody during the scenes between Quaid and the wife that tells me there's more to the album than what I hear on Silva. So, I am trying to get this album and may have more to say about it later. If you really want me to, that is. To sum up, I wouldn't go out of my way to rent the movie, but it seems to make the rounds of the TV stations every now and then. If you don't mind putting up with all the commercials, it can make a nice evening's entertainment. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 3:41 am Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: AOutland > This movie stars Randy Quaid I believe who, as a romantic lead, leaves a >lot to be desired IMO. [...] I agree and a good summary Dell! But nobody has so far mentioned the scene when Randy and his mistress have fun in the hotel. You know, running naked in the hotel and pouring ice on each other. That looked like a lot of fun. I really like the soundtrack even though you have to search out the good moments. ----- HTML ISSUE ------- Now a HTML question. A few list members checked out my web site and said that my TD list text was all in yellow on a grey background (which was very difficult to read). I thought I fixed this (text should be black) and my Netscape browser shows no yellow, but black. Were ya'll using Microsoft's Internet Explorer? Well anyway, there should be no yellow now. If so, please e-mail me off list. BTW, is there an expert on this list that knows everything about animation on the web? I'd like to know :-) Thanks for the bandwidth and thanks for seeing my webpage. Comments always appreciated. Vic P.S. I wish more members would 'expose' themselves. I think it would bring the 'community' closer together.... A couple days ago I received an e-mail from a list member from Hungary. He said 'wadda hell is a Vic Rek', well check and see, he's pretty much like the rest of you :-) Maybe soon I'll just be lurking in the shadows ;-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12602 Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? DJS Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB 12604 Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? Vic Rek Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB 12610 Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? david clarke Sat 4/4/1998 4 KB 12635 Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? AOutland Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 5:30 am Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Vic > > P.S. I wish more members would 'expose' themselves. I think it would bring > the 'community' closer together.... A couple days ago I received an e-mail > from a list member from Hungary. He said 'wadda hell is a Vic Rek', well > Hmm a Vic Rek is: A fantical but amazingly cool (I won't hold it against you that you were in the same room as the tuna woman) TD completist that is the voice of reason regarding Tangerous Dreamus arguements & soforth; a man who spends lots of time on planes living if810 instead of just listening to it. ;-) Sheesh dude...you look a lot different than I thought you would...I always imagined you looking like Ross from Friends or something...yeeehahahahaha!! Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 4:37 am Subject: Re: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Steven Feldman > > I now have a copy of the Relativity POLAND 2-CD set that comes in >a slimline case, and a copy that comes in a double-jewel case, so I can >say with certainty that the following is so (at least as far as the two >CDs *I* have are concerned): > > o the text on the disks in the slimline set is printed in brown > o the text on the disks in the double-case set is printed in blue Not so! The color of the print on the discs has nothing to do with which jewel case they were packaged in. Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12608 Re: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case feldon@p... Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 4:58 am Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: DJS >Hmm a Vic Rek is: >Sheesh dude...you look a lot different than I thought you would...I >always imagined you looking like Ross from Friends or >something...yeeehahahahaha!! I don't watch TV (so I don't understand the above statement), but I'm trying to imagine what you look like too (Eli, don't start walking away either). I picture both of you as a little overweight (maybe from beer and life's pressures) and sporting some crazy facial hair and having very white teeth :-) Well I guess I'll find out when I see you this summer. Why don't you just play Ricochet or Hyperborea? Later... Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 7:08 am Subject: What TD fans look like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > I don't watch TV (so I don't understand the above statement), but I'm trying > to imagine what you look like too (Eli, don't start walking away either). I > picture both of you as a little overweight (maybe from beer and life's > pressures) Hehehe, fortunately we're both just the right size, & Eli gets plenty of excercise hauling concrete & rock fountains here & there so he's a buff dude hehe. I'm actually on the thin side due to my high metabolism. I don't drink (except I have a super big gulp craze which goes from Mountain Dew to Coke & back again). Once in a while, a Dos Equis for celebrating (for example, when Elana is finally put in her place...I'm buying the good imported stuff!) and sporting some crazy facial hair and having very white teeth :-) yer right here! I have that Snake Plissken stubble thing & my teeth are very white. When Eli & I get 4A's website up you'll finally have a picture to laugh at heh heh. Eli is another story. I'm sure he'll look nothing like you imagined. > Well I guess I'll find out when I see you this summer. You will also find out why Edgar & friends only stay a few days in 29 Palms....sheeeooooweeee...it gets hot down there...bleh. > > Why don't you just play Ricochet or Hyperborea? I would but I'm listening to all of that unreleased Street Hawk stuff Franke gave me when I visited...er...I've said too much already hehehe. ciao dude! Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 7:34 am Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THIS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > > At 11:45 AM 4/3/1998, Michael Fox wrote: > > >JW--thanks for all the spam--to get off the list read the paragraph > > No use, Michael. This person is a moron. I have sent him direct e-mail. I > broke down the paragraph into digestible bites, highlighting the address > and the proper format for unsubscribing. I even spelled out > U-N-S-U-B-S-C-R-I-B-E for 'it' because 'it' seems to be deficient in more > ways than one. At this point all we can hope for is hospitalization and > rehab in a Closed Head Injury ward. > > Sheeeesh.... > > Andrew If you thinks that's bad...... Someone in TD's Guestbook wrote 'unsubsribe tadream' 'unsubsribe tadream digest' Must have been the same guy who can't spell unsubsCribe heehee Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 4:20 pm Subject: FS: Jarre + ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ken Beal Howdy... I have a few Jarre items for sale as well as some other artists. Email me at: kwb10@c... and I'll send you the list. Thanks, Ken From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 4:17 pm Subject: Re: Relativity POLAND Slimcase vs. Double-case ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:37 PM 4/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Vic Rek > > >>Really-From: Steven Feldman >> >> I now have a copy of the Relativity POLAND 2-CD set that comes in >>a slimline case, and a copy that comes in a double-jewel case, so I can >>say with certainty that the following is so (at least as far as the two >>CDs *I* have are concerned): >> >> o the text on the disks in the slimline set is printed in brown >> o the text on the disks in the double-case set is printed in blue > >Not so! The color of the print on the discs has nothing to do with which >jewel case they were packaged in. > >Vic As I have stated before, there were two pressings of the 2CD. Yes, I have held and played both 2CDs. The brown release and the blue release. One has Rarebird on disc 1 as a separate track 3. One has Rarebird simply included at the end of track 2 (Tangent). Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 1:43 am Subject: Re: Tangram Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Philip Meyer >If anyone is interested, I have created a Tangram (solution part) midi >file. Mail me off list if you would like a copy sent to you. Also, as I do >not have a website of my own, I can't load it up anywhere. Is there >anyone that wants to do that? (Phil Meyer.. you still on this list?) > >Force Majeure almost finished too... :-) > Yes, I am still on the list, only I have 1422 unread messages! I never seem to find time to read them all, but always read from the most recent backwards. I'd love the midi files. If you like, I shall add them to my site, which isn't pretty, but at least it works! --Phil Meyer-------------------------- phil@h... amarok@c... http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk --------God loves his children, yeah-- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 6:56 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'david clarke' have youb heard blue fear by armin it sounds like a 90,s rubycon.... davie glasgow scotland...... -----Original Message----- From: tadream mailing list To: tadream@c... Date: 04 April 1998 05:39 Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: DJS > > >> Vic >> >> P.S. I wish more members would 'expose' themselves. I think it would bring >> the 'community' closer together.... A couple days ago I received an e-mail >> from a list member from Hungary. He said 'wadda hell is a Vic Rek', well >> > >Hmm a Vic Rek is: > >A fantical but amazingly cool (I won't hold it against you that you were >in the same room as the tuna woman) TD completist that is the voice of >reason regarding Tangerous Dreamus arguements & soforth; a man who >spends lots of time on planes living if810 instead of just listening to >it. ;-) >Sheesh dude...you look a lot different than I thought you would...I >always imagined you looking like Ross from Friends or >something...yeeehahahahaha!! > >Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 7:07 pm Subject: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vicky Rudd Hey there guys :) Yes, Sean, there are female TD fans out there, and I happen to be one of them! I've only been a TD fan for about 5 years, but my collection is steadily growing. I'm new to the list, and this is my first post, so feel free to backhand me if I'm going about it the wrong way. I've just been observing for the last few days. My name is Vicky (or Victoria, whichever you prefer, I'm called by both), and I hail from the great state of Alabama. :\ Uhmmmmmmm... The weather's really nice here. Heheh I'm 24, will be 25 next month. I actually have the audacity to call myself a poet. I do enjoy writing, and I actually have a small group who likes my work. TD has influenced some of my writings. If nothing else, it definitely puts me in the mood to create. I am working on a masters degree in public administration now, and next fall I intend to start another masters program, this time on the PhD track, so that I can teach English/Literature on the university level. Ahhh, well, enough about me. I'm glad there is an open forum for lovers of Tangerine Dream, and I look forward to being a member. :) Victoria Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12613 Re: Introductions all around :) TB220 Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB 12615 Re: Introductions all around :) Hermes Guzman Sat 4/4/1998 4 KB 12616 Re: Introductions all around :) Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/4/1998 4 KB 12618 Re: Introductions all around :) Marcel Engels Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB 12619 Re: Introductions all around :) DAVENTURA Sat 4/4/1998 3 KB 12620 Re: Introductions all around :) DAVENTURA Sat 4/4/1998 2 KB 12621 Re: Introductions all around :) Gabe Yedid Sat 4/4/1998 2 KB 12622 Re: Introductions all around :) Vic Rek Sun 4/5/1998 4 KB 12624 Re: Introductions all around :) Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 4/5/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 7:27 pm Subject: TD Cd's trade sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TB220 Phaedra -> has a full length scratch that does not effect its play Rockoon Tangram Tyranny of Beauty Le Parc 220 Volt Live ATEM Force Majeure more information...(10$ apiece) or trade for.... contact rob @ hiawatha@s... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TB220 Vic, I like inspired poetry, do you write anything in other forums? I haven't written or read poetry in a while (I'm 24 too., just out of college. Was contemplating a masters degree in secondary ed English.) I just started on this list to sell TD cd's. Yes, I'm ridding myself of them. (Good to see someone expressing an interest in poetry on this list.) Add me to it. rob bashaw hiawatha@s... (not tb220@a...) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 9:15 pm Subject: Re: The Quest is over!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' >I went to a hole-in-the-wall used record store last night after work, >flipped through soundtracks, and found: THE >KEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Unfortunately it cost me two hundred freakin' bucks!!! Luckily I was >able to charge it, and once Steven sends me my reward I can pay my bill >before the wife kicks my arse. > >The cover shows a shot of the front of the keep, with Juergen Prochnow, >Gabriel Byrne, and the priest, and the back cover shows shots of Alberta >Watson & Scott Glen gettin' it on, Scott & Molesar duking it out, Dr. >What's-his-name, and the two German soldiers prying the cross out of the >wall. > >Tracklist: >Side 1: >Opening theme/The Arrival 5:28 >Moelsar is Released 2:54 >Glaeken 1:57 >The Night in Romania 3:16 >Puer Natus est Nobis 3:09 >The Challenger's Arrival 5:00 > >Side 2: >Love Theme 5:32 >Molesar 3:12 >Escaping the Keep 3:01 >Captured 2:30 >Canzone 2:51 >Triumph (End Theme) 3:38 > >It's on MCA, and the number is 1 201 315. The copy I got was near mint >and polybagged. I haven't had a chance to play it yet. I asked the >proprietor if he could get more, and he said that it was deleted before >release and he was lucky to get the one he had. I left him my name & >number and he said if any more turn up he'll let me know. > >I scanned the cover this moring and put it on my web page. You can see >it at: >http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palladium/5728/index.html > > >Scott > > WAW! You did scan an entire LP cover, you must have an A3 scanner... What's the mark and the model? Fred np : The great deceiver (King Crimson) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 5:59 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) Greetings Victoria! >Really-From: Vicky Rudd >My name is Vicky (or Victoria, whichever you prefer, I'm called by both), >and I hail from the great state of Alabama. :\ Uhmmmmmmm... The weather's >really nice here. Heheh I'm 24, will be 25 next month. Another young'un! I remember that time of my life... The weather here in Big D Texas is just fine, too... >I actually have the audacity to call myself a poet. I do enjoy writing, >and I actually have a small group who likes my work. TD has influenced >some of my writings. If nothing else, it definitely puts me in the mood to >create. Well I for one certainly enjoyed reading the wonderful missive you posted in the TaDream Guestbook! I, too, have been known to pen verse, though it usually regards the affairs of the Heart. TD is very much a part of Life's soundtrack for me; I find the music not only inspirational but provocative as well. It often helps me to look at something from another perspective I may not have considered, especially in my art. >I am working on a masters degree in public administration now, and next >fall I intend to start another masters program, this time on the PhD track, >so that I can teach English/Literature on the university level. Well...I can speak and write English!;) >Ahhh, well, enough about me. I'm glad there is an open forum for lovers of >Tangerine Dream, and I look forward to being a member. :) Welcome aboard! goozer --------------------------------------------------- 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring at the line between black & white for so long that their vision has blurred.' --------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 10:28 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 02:07 PM 4/4/1998 -0500, Vicky wrote: >Hey there guys :) Make that guys and gals...since there are other ladies present :-) >Yes, Sean, there are female TD fans out there, and I happen to be one of >them! I've only been a TD fan for about 5 years, but my collection is >steadily growing. Hope you have lots of money:-) ...over 100 albums, singles, collections, etc. by TD only. Many others by ex-TD members. >I'm new to the list, and this is my first post, so feel free to backhand me >if I'm going about it the wrong way. I've just been observing for the last >few days. Nah...we don't backhand ladies....just the guys...a bunch of sexists here. >I actually have the audacity to call myself a poet. I do enjoy writing, >and I actually have a small group who likes my work. TD has influenced >some of my writings. If nothing else, it definitely puts me in the mood to >create. Vicky is a good name to have for a poet/writer in Alabama. Vicky Covington is nationally reknown. >I am working on a masters degree in public administration now, and next >fall I intend to start another masters program, this time on the PhD track, >so that I can teach English/Literature on the university level. Good luck with your studies. Andrew Birmingham (actually Indian Springs Village) - Alabama From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 10:49 pm Subject: Re: Tangram Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Phil Meyer writes: > --------God loves his children, yeah-- Hmm, I'm feeling neglected. Anyone know if he has a Website? Just wondering....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12632 Re: Tangram Midi File Philip Meyer Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 10:51 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>Really-From: Vicky Rudd > >>My name is Vicky (or Victoria, whichever you prefer, I'm called by both), >>and I hail from the great state of Alabama. :\ Uhmmmmmmm... The weather's >>really nice here. Heheh I'm 24, will be 25 next month. He, I'm 24 too and will be 25 next month (24th May). Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... stopped playing: Access Virus (i have to sleep too, you know) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 11:02 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Vicky writes: > so feel free to backhand me > if I'm going about it the wrong way. Is this something you're used to, or enjoy? Welcome to the strangest, deepest and darkest list on the Web. No, wait that's my psyche, not the list. Or is that Steve's? You see, I have this brother named Steve and I automatically...aww forget it. Again, I'd like to Welcome you, 'The Vickster' to our home away from home. This list can be quite enjoyable at times, and other times, well, you'll see. Just don't ask about Elana or 'The Keep'.Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 11:11 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA > (Hermes Guzman) And maybe a little Spanish, huh? Maybe not. Hell, I've got an American name and I speak a little Spanish. Why am I going on with this....somebody backhand me....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12621 Re: Introductions all around :) Gabe Yedid Sat 4/4/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 11:39 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid Wow, two new female listmembers in the course of a week! Does this herald a major 'coming out' of female Dreamers? (perhaps there's hope yet...) ;) Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 12:10 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Okay guys and gals, I'm sure you've seen my name enough around here for one weekend (me too). But then we have a new member that has a name similar to mine, even the same initials - and she even lives close by... But don't confuse me with her when it comes to poetry. What can this mean, only ONE thing. A PARTY! Guess what kind of music I'll be playing? So the guest list reads like this (from a geographical perspective): Marcel (Good connection from Amsterdam to Atlanta) Vicky (AL), Dell :-) (FL), The Highlander (FL), Jimbo (GA), Craig (GA), Steve (GA), Roger (FL), Jen (even though PA isn't that close) and Andrew (AL). Did I miss anyone? Oh ya, Dano & Eli can crash the party! Maybe even DAVENTURA will show, but that's just my opinion. And of course the guest of honor will be Mr. Datta himself! Maybe even Klaus & Peter will drop in for a beer? >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>>Really-From: Vicky Rudd >> >>>My name is Vicky (or Victoria, whichever you prefer, I'm called by both), >>>and I hail from the great state of Alabama. :\ Uhmmmmmmm... The >weather's >>>really nice here. Heheh I'm 24, will be 25 next month. >He, I'm 24 too and will be 25 next month (24th May). And if you want your website link included in my upcoming 'link' page, just drop me a note. Signing off.. I've got to get some yardwork done and plant a tree... Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 3:07 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 18:39 199804.04 -0500, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > >Wow, two new female listmembers in the course of a week! > >Does this herald a major 'coming out' of female Dreamers? > >(perhaps there's hope yet...) Just as long as we don't hose down the bandwidth of this ML with testosterone BTW: Hi Vicky, welcome aboard! (ob TD) Green Desert:TD's great 'lost' album. A haiku. Wow. Oh Wow. GD. Edgar guitar, Chris drum. Just turn down the lights. Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12627 Re: Introductions all around :) Francisco Salgado C. Sun 4/5/1998 3 KB 12630 Re: Introductions all around :) Andrew J. Rozsa Sun 4/5/1998 3 KB 12628 Re: Introductions all around :) DAVENTURA Sun 4/5/1998 2 KB 12629 Re: Introductions all around :) Francisco Salgado C. Sun 4/5/1998 3 KB 12631 Re: Introductions all around :) Francisco Salgado C. Sun 4/5/1998 3 KB 12638 Re: Introductions all around :) AOutland Mon 4/6/1998 2 KB 12639 Re: Introductions all around :) OIK Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB 12664 Re: Introductions all around :) Jen Phillips Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12666 Re: Introductions all around :) Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 2:20 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vic Rek > > What can this mean, only ONE thing. A PARTY! Guess what kind of music I'll > be playing? > > So the guest list reads like this (from a geographical perspective): > Marcel (Good connection from Amsterdam to Atlanta) > Vicky (AL), Dell :-) (FL), The Highlander (FL), Jimbo (GA), Craig (GA), > Steve (GA), Roger (FL), Jen (even though PA isn't that close) and Andrew (AL). > Did I miss anyone? Oh ya, Dano & Eli can crash the party! Maybe even ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Okay! We're the guys who look we didn't make the grade at the Motorhead auditions!!!!! Who's got the friggin' potato sacks? > DAVENTURA will show, but that's just my opinion. And of course the guest of > honor will be Mr. Datta himself! Maybe even Klaus & Peter will drop in for a > beer? Or a toke...:-) > Signing off.. I've got to get some yardwork done and plant a tree... If you've got good soil, just dig the hole. If you have a lot of sand, dig the hole, put about 1/2 a cubic foot of Red Star's Planter's Mix & Mulch at the bottom of the hole, and mix the remaining 1/2 with the sand with your shovel (or hands, if you'd like). Wouldn't hurt to give the tree some Vitamin B1, either, or 16-20-0 Ammonium Phosphate granulated fertilizer. Stick the hose (turned on and running) several times into the soil around the newly planted tree to get some H-2-O down there, and to get the air *out* of the soil. Best method for proper planting: add 'have the kid do all of this' to your step-by-step plan. Save some of those mushrooms for the party!!!!! E-Man np: Stratovarius, *Visions of Europe* (live 2CD) ne: Fritos' Texas Grill From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 2:29 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vicky Rudd > > Hey there guys :) Yo! > I actually have the audacity to call myself a poet. I do enjoy writing, Cool! I have the audacity to call myself an all-around writer, among other things. When it comes to prose fiction, I rarely turn out anything that wouldn't fall under some subgenre of horror :-) (I am a living nightmare, anyway, to some, including certain species of fishies, hehe). > and I actually have a small group who likes my work. TD has influenced ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ditto! Dan's my numero uno fan! > some of my writings. If nothing else, it definitely puts me in the mood to > create. > > I am working on a masters degree in public administration now, and next > fall I intend to start another masters program, this time on the PhD track, > so that I can teach English/Literature on the university level. Kudos for pursuing that Doctorate! It takes a lot of discipline to get a degree, let alone multiples thereof. I'm stopping at a Bachelor's (in Eng lit, as well) for now. I've had to work fulltime-plus while going to school fulltime for what seems like an eternity. I've burned out. I envy anyone who gets to enjoy their weekends. I'm 27 going on 47 at this point. > Ahhh, well, enough about me. I'm glad there is an open forum for lovers of > Tangerine Dream, and I look forward to being a member. :) Groovy, Vicky! Just save lots of cash, because there's a lot of music to buy, and always take anything you read with a grain of salt, and you'll have lots of fun a.k.a. a good time. There are a few of us kidders here on the list. Never take anything *too* seriously (like some people), except, of course, for late-breaking news and Edgar Froese and his chimp, Bubbles! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 3, 1998 7:24 pm Subject: is it my turn...huh...is it?? I guess I'll make it my turn to introduce myself :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: OIK As the subject sez...I am MAKING it my turn to introduce myself :-> (thankyou victoria for reminding me to do this) I have not listened to TD for very long...about 3 months, and that is when I got a dubbed copy from a friend...I haven't EVER owned my own CD, but I can now listen to a cd of it any time I want, after that friend became a girlfriend, and I moved in with her :-> I have a particular interest in Enigma, and I guess my tastes sorta spilled over from there. infact if you read my signature, it will even say that I write an article for Suite101.com that is about Enigma(hint hint...check it out). although my Girlfriend only owns one CD by TD, we have 4 more on the way from Columbia House. yup...soon we will have every TD CD that columbia house has to offer (any suggestions as to where we can find a better selection??). lets see...about me other than music...I am 18, and live in Pennsylvania, USA...I don't do very much of anything...play on the puter...do a little programing here and there, make noise, and bust stuff...what more is there in life to do?? well I am about half way through the 1,000 messages a day I get from this list, so I better get back to reading. :-> -- OIK visit my home page at http://oik.home.ml.org sign up for my Philosophy Mailing List at http://oik.home.ml.org/mail_list.html Visit http://www.suite101.com and read my article on Enigma(it is in the music section) last but not least, Have a Nice Day :o) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 10:26 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > Wow, two new female listmembers in the course of a week! > > Does this herald a major 'coming out' of female Dreamers? The Tangerine Dream list in spanish (TDFANS, it began 2 weeks ago) have 3 females subscribed from the very beginning. Maybe latin-speaking ladies( spanish, french, italian, Portuguese) are more prone to TD's influences... If some of you want to practice spanish and subscribe, just send a message to jupe@c... telling him to do it. Really it was a very good idea to open the list since there is a lot of spanish-speaking TD fans who don't speak/write english. Ah!... Welcome poet Vicky to this humble room. ---Francisco Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12630 Re: Introductions all around :) Andrew J. Rozsa Sun 4/5/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 4:34 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Francisco writes: > since there is a lot of > spanish-speaking TD fans who don't speak/write english. First of all, shouldn't that be 'since there are a lot?....I'm sure that there are a lot of redneck Spice Girl fans that can't read/write English, either. But I'm not being forced to learn their language...(insert commentary here)....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 5:12 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' tadream mailing list escribió: > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > Francisco writes: > > since there is a lot of > > spanish-speaking TD fans who don't speak/write english. > > First of all, shouldn't that be 'since there are a lot?.... Yes. I've made a mistake. I'm not perfect. > I'm sure that there > are a lot of redneck Spice Girl fans that can't read/write English, either. > But I'm not being forced to learn their language...(insert commentary > here)....David This is voluntary, David, Just for fun, no obligation whatsoever. --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 11:26 AM 4/5/1998 +0100, Francisco wrote: >3 females subscribed from the very beginning. Maybe latin-speaking >ladies( spanish, french, italian, Portuguese) [.....] Romanian From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 8:56 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' tadream mailing list escribió: > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > At 11:26 AM 4/5/1998 +0100, Francisco wrote: > > >3 females subscribed from the very beginning. Maybe latin-speaking > >ladies( spanish, french, italian, Portuguese) [.....] > > Romanian Damit!... forgot it From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 6:01 am Subject: Re: Tangram Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Philip Meyer >Hmm, I'm feeling neglected. Anyone know if he has a Website? Just >wondering....David > My web site was in my sig. It's http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk. --Phil Meyer-------------------------- phil@h... amarok@c... http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk --------God loves his children, yeah-- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 4, 1998 1:25 pm Subject: Re: How TD has changed ME PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THIS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 11:45 AM 4/3/98, you wrote: >JW--thanks for all the spam--to get off the list read the paragraph >inbetween the dotted lines. Odd.....I sent this to JW....not the list. Oh, Rod Serling just walked in the room. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Cleaning Pinch Rollers: Aromatic Hydrocarbon or Alcohol? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:49:04 -0500 >Subject: re: dubbing hints >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Lars R. Jones <105411.3107@c...> > >'molasar the spam vampire' writes: >> Nein. Nyet. Non. Ixnay. Unless things have changed, DO NOT >>use head cleaner on the 'pinch roller' (the big black rubber wheel), >>because the alcohol will dry the wheel out so that it could crack or >>at least become abrasive to the tapes running over it. > >-- well steve most of us will burn out our decks long before we have >any problems like this. Besides even the **manufacturers** of my decks >(sony & yamaha) recommend 'with the tape deck turned off, wipe the >heads, the pinch rollers and the capstans with a cotton swab slightly >moistened with alcohol or a commercially available cleaning fluid for >tape decks.' Now, I'm more apt to pay attention to the manufacturer's >instructions than your recommendations, based as they apparently are, >on 10-year-old hearsay(?). Well, I bought a two-bottle head cleaning kit from a stereo repair shop about 10 years ago. One bottle, with an orange liquid, was your basic alcohol-type cleaner for the heads--only it wasn't alcohol. The other bottle, with a blue liquid, was very smelly and was only for the rubber wheels in the tape deck. Folks told me that commohly-found alcohol at drug stores was impure and had lanolin in it--which eventually builds up on your heads and adds an oily residue. In drug stores, the most commonly carried alcohol are those listed as being 91%, 93%, and 97%. All have lanolin in them. If you want the 99%--which is the best--you have to get it from a hospital manufacturer, or warehouse. Apparently, pure alcohol is used in the making of angel dust, so it is not commercially available. It is super- volatile, too. The stereo repair shop I went to for ten years bought 99% alcohol in gallon jugs and used it exclusively for cleaning the heads in tape decks. >certainly too much alcohol may be a problem but unless you can come >with an **available** alternative... if it's not available steve, why >even bother to recommend it? all you will do is encourage people not >to clean for fear of causing a problem and the result is lower sound >quality... [. . .] What, it's better to do something lame than nothing at all?!? That's a dangerous philosophy. Granted, doing something half-assed is better than nothing, but doing something bad rather than good is some- thing different. The bottle I have is called 'TEAC rubber cleaner conditioner.' Its listed contents are 'aromatic hydrocarbon, antioxidant,' and there is a notice that says, 'This liquide contains no alcohol.' The front of the bottle reads: | TEAC Rubber cleaner conditioner | | This fluid is specially formulated to clean and condition the | pinch roller and any other rubber parts on your tape recorder. . . . | Regular application and cleaning will reduce the effects of ozone and | smog which cause hardening and cracking of rubber parts. | | TEAC Corporation of America, Montebello, CA 90640 | PRD-4 >[. . .] I'm sure even your teac conditioner/cleaner has lifespan/ >limit... and 10years is probably long past it... perhaps you're doing >more damage? No. It works as well as it ever did. The only difference at all is that most of the blue coloring has faded from the liquid. When I clean a pinch roller by applying it to a cotton swab, I must lean the swab against the roller about 5 or 6 times at different angles and in different places to get all the dark crap that comes off the roller. In all fairness, though, I do remember being told at the shop where I got the stuff that it is no longer made and that current tape head cleaners are good for both the heads *and* the roller. This seems odd to me, though, seeing as people still tend to use alcohol despite all the noise about there being lanolin in the lower grades of it. (Where is Mark Filipak when you need him?) -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 2:25 am Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream & Golf + HTML? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-03 22:42:31 EST, you write: Vic: << But nobody has so far mentioned the scene when Randy and his mistress have fun in the hotel. You know, running naked in the hotel and pouring ice on each other. >> Didn't know this scene existed. You kinda miss some of the fun when you watch a movie on G-minded TV. Maybe it is worth renting the movie after all. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Bionaut. Ever hear of these guys? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Here's some stuff peripherally-related to TD from the space music mailing list and the band known as Bionaut themselves: -- Steven Feldman + + + + + + + Subject: Bionaut Live April 11 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:47:03 -0500 From: space-music@c... (space-music mailing list) Really-From: bionaut Hey there, Bionaut returns to Boston. Live show at the Zeitgeist Gallery in Cambridge on Saturday April 11. We'll be playing with Electro Organic Sound System. Yeah! Boston's two best electronic music acts under one roof! Show starts around 10pm. Email me for further info if you're planning on coming. With any luck we'll have the new disc in hand. Hope you local folks can make it. Sorry to all you out-of-towners. Hopefully we'll come see you soon. Best, Chris _____________________________________________________ VOTE FOR BIONAUT ONLINE 'Best Electronic Act, Boston' http://www.bostonphoenix.com/cgi-bin/bmp1998.pl _____________________________________________________ Bionaut CD's are $10 each until April 16 'Au Naturel' 'Big Causeway to Gone' Tiny Bubbles Music 1600 Falmouth Rd Suite 109 Centerville MA 02632 PH/FX 508-778-0118 http://www.vse.cape.com/~bionaut + + + + + + + Date: Wed, 01 Apr 98 21:10:03 EST From: space-music@c... (space-music mailing list) Subject: Re: Bionaut Live April 11 Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:47:03 -0500 >Subject: Re: Bionaut Live April 11 >From: space-music mailing list >Really-From: bionaut > >Bionaut returns to Boston. Live show at the Zeitgeist Gallery in >Cambridge on Saturday April 11. We'll be playing with Electro Organic >Sound System. Yeah! Boston's two best electronic music acts under one >roof! I've been into space music for almost 20 years. I moved to Boston from Providence, RI four years ago. I've never heard of either Bionaut or E.O. Sound System. I never heard of Zeitgeist Gallery. I haven't really gone to clubs regularly since 1979 (when I was a disco boy, doing the do to Giorgio Moroder, Simon Sousson and Bob Esty's stuff). The only Massachusetts e-music band I've heard is Architectural Metaphor. >Show starts around 10pm. Email me for further info if you're planning on >coming. Please fill me in. What kind of e-music do you (and that other band) do? Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: , and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, R. Carty, Greinke, Serrie. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + + + + + + + Subject: Re: Bionaut Live April 11 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:06:27 -0500 From: bionaut To: 'Steven Feldman' Steven Feldman wrote... >The only >Massachusetts e-music band I've heard is Architectural Metaphor. Funny, I used to play with them and the other half of Bionaut is Paul Eggleston who IS Arc Met. They're still going strong. You're going to --> love Bionaut, it tends to be quite a lot like TD in their prime with some Arc Met thrown in. Two guys, all electronic, no techno beats. I guess it's what people call 'ambient'. You really need to come see us play. EOSS is different. He's a younger guy, doing new school stuff, I think he calls it jungle. He's good at it. We go on around 10:30pm. Do you need directions? Best, Chris _____________________________________________________ VOTE FOR BIONAUT ONLINE 'Best Electronic Act, Boston' http://www.bostonphoenix.com/cgi-bin/bmp1998.pl _____________________________________________________ Bionaut CD's are $10 each until April 16 'Au Naturel' 'Big Causeway to Gone' Tiny Bubbles Music 1600 Falmouth Rd Suite 109 Centerville MA 02632 PH/FX 508-778-0118 http://www.vse.cape.com/~bionaut From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 2:44 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-04 14:10:05 EST, you write: << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vicky Rudd Hey there guys :) Yes, Sean, there are female TD fans out there, and I happen to be one of them! >> Hi, Vicky, 'bout time you made it here. You're gonna find this to be a really neat place with lots of insider information about TD. Conflicting opinions abound, but that's what makes it fun. We all treat each other with respect so no one is going to 'backhand' you. Welcome. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 2:52 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-04 18:40:28 EST, you write: Gabe: << Wow, two new female listmembers in the course of a week! >> Jen, Ami, and Vicky makes three. Unless Jen turned out to be a guy; anyone know? Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 5:25 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: OIK tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: AOutland > > In a message dated 98-04-04 18:40:28 EST, you write: Gabe: > > << Wow, two new female listmembers in the course of a week! >> > Jen, Ami, and Vicky makes three. Unless Jen turned out to be a guy; > anyone know? Dell I know for a fact that jen is female, since she is my girlfriend/roommate :-> -- OIK visit my home page at http://oik.home.ml.org sign up for my Philosophy Mailing List at http://oik.home.ml.org/mail_list.html Visit http://www.suite101.com and read my article on Enigma(it is in the music section) last but not least, Have a Nice Day :o) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 8:02 pm Subject: Klaus Schulze on Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: hkraft@c... (Hilmar Kraft) First of all: To everyone that tried to contact me over the last 3 weeks and has not received a reply: Sorry, but I have been doing a lot of travelling and could only answer some of the posts so far, you'll be hearing from me. On to another subject: Last night's ELECTROBEATS show featured KLAUS SCHULZE who was there in the studio for the entire 4 hours. I managed to listen only to the first hour until 2:00am, and was able to tape the first 3 hours, so the 4th hour is 'lost'... So far I can only comment on the first hour: He played a lot of music from recent studio albums such as Dosburg Online, the new Wahnfried album, etc. Schulze was asked to comment about each of these played albums and had a few interesting stories to tell about the individual tracks and his style of working etc. Also, people were allowed to call in to place questions. On top of that Schulze played a lot of music from his favorite artists and commented about these. The first hour featured music from the new MADONNA album (actually the 'Frozen' Remixes) by William Orbit, and a remix of a track from SNAP. Also some old Ashra stuff was played. I will be checking my tapes for the remaining 2 hours. If someone expected any rare tracks or unreleased stuff, it doesn't look like there was anything like this in the show. In case you were thinking about asking me for a copy...that will be possible, but not until 4 or 5 weeks from now, all my copying capacity is 100% used up with other things... :-) Hilmar Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12643 Re: Klaus Schulze on Electrobeats TWeibre361 Mon 4/6/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 2:19 pm Subject: RE: is it my turn...huh...is it?? I guess I'll make it my turn t o introduce myself :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >although my Girlfriend only owns one CD by TD, we have 4 more on the way >from Columbia House. yup...soon we will have every TD CD that columbia >house has to offer (any suggestions as to where we can find a better >selection??). Wow, the Private Music of. . . was the only TD I ever saw in the CH catalog. Maybe I didn't get the right one. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12644 Re: is it my turn...huh...is it?? I guess I'll m OIK Mon 4/6/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 5, 1998 9:39 pm Subject: Holi Grüp dass is Tangerine Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Halo TaTräumez! Jech wirs ver früli dass internazionin grüp Tangerine Dream is. Un dass allin zex repräsentint sunt. (Jech remembrins dass on Ert gibvti drin (2) zex : mälle un vemälle un dass ze ferste löükt imme foür ze sekondete, as zis obviüs in ze listë is). Träumen Onn! Gritingz doo allin, Frädd np : Magma an 1st äpriil, 1999 lïfe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 3:54 pm Subject: Re: Klaus Schulze on Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-06 09:08:03 EDT, you write: << In case you were thinking about asking me for a copy...that will be possible, but not until 4 or 5 weeks from now, all my copying capacity is 100% used up with other things... :-) >> please put me down for one of these whenever u get a chance...thanks...tom w From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 7:01 am Subject: Re: is it my turn...huh...is it?? I guess I'll make it my turn t o introduce myself :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: OIK tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >although my Girlfriend only owns one CD by TD, we have 4 more > on the way > >from Columbia House. yup...soon we will have every TD CD that > columbia > >house has to offer (any suggestions as to where we can find a > better > >selection??). > > Wow, the Private Music of. . . was the only TD I ever saw in the > CH catalog. Maybe I didn't get the right one. > > Scott check out their website...they now have 220 Volt, the dream mixes, and a couple others...it is worth your time to check them out. -- OIK visit my home page at http://oik.home.ml.org sign up for my Philosophy Mailing List at http://oik.home.ml.org/mail_list.html Visit http://www.suite101.com and read my article on Enigma(it is in the music section) last but not least, Have a Nice Day :o) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 6:12 pm Subject: just when u thought the tape tree was final.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 tell the truth people: u knew id screw up...well guess what? i did...but not too badly...couple of addresses, forgot some people, moved a few around, started a usa digital branch, (thats gotta work together to make it happen), little stuff like that...so, here it is...good luck... tom w np: crimso=night watcher (S) 105411.3107@c... EUROPE (1) hkraft@c... (1.1) fsalgado@c... (1.2) fred.yarqui@w... (1.3) ami.hassinen@e... (1.4) int1217@m... (1.4.1) jmsf@c... (1.4.2) geir.smedsrud@s... (1.4.3) szatmari@s... (1.4.4) craig.cordey@g... (1.4.5) gerryfox@e... (1.4.5.1) phil@h...,demon.co.uk (1.4.5.2) ath@s... (1.4.5.3) stephen.yensen@s... (1.4.5.4) i.f.fensome@d... (1.4.5.5) lawrysimm@u... USA EAST (2) tweibre361@a... (2.1) aoutland@a... (2.2) tdune@a... (2.3) rogesmith3@h... (2.4) steiner@b... (2.4.1) adaaxs@e... (2.4.2) herbert@m... (2.4.3) findline@m... (2.5) trichmnd@e... (2.5.1) kearley@r... (2.5.2) gabe@c... (2.5.3) mfox@i... (2.5.4) jowers@i... (2.6) chiqui@o... USA WEST (3) bruno@c... (3.1) aured@i... (3.2) dbrewer@a... (3.3) bosssfan@a... (3.4) miqsk8@a... (3.4.1) kwb10@c... (3.4.2) tdtrance@n... (3.4.3) frederic@a... (4) herod@n... (4.1) sflaub@b... (4.2) tom_gerardy@m... (4.3) jcroberts@h... (4.4) mlivsey@n... (4.5) rhanna@e... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12647 Re: just when u thought the tape tree was final.. Roger Smith Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB 12650 Re: just when u thought the tape tree was final.. TWeibre361 Mon 4/6/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 11:13 am Subject: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' Marcel wrote: Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>Really-From: Vicky Rudd > He, I'm 24 too and will be 25 next month (24th May). Same date of birth as mine!!! (albeit some 20 years apart)........and we both enjoy TD.........Is this a coincidence or what........maybe there IS something in astrology after all! (Heh! heh! heh!). Ash Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12648 Re: birthdates Vincent Goudreault Mon 4/6/1998 4 KB 12649 Re: birthdates Marcel Engels Mon 4/6/1998 3 KB 12678 Re: birthdates Flemming Larsen Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12682 Re: birthdates Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12688 Re: birthdates Colin Knowles Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12690 Re: birthdates Jens Peschke Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12692 Re: birthdates TWeibre361 Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12704 Re: birthdates Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 8:19 pm Subject: Re: just when u thought the tape tree was final.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Roger Smith' Yo Tom, Correction on my address (may not matter 'cause you're my branch): rogersmith3@h... Thanks for including me in the next tree. Anything from my list you want a copy of? You got the new Goldtri 2CD emusic compilation from UK artists? You into Radio Massacre International? Roger ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 8:40 pm Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: 'ashok prema' > > Marcel wrote: > > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > >>Really-From: Vicky Rudd > > > > He, I'm 24 too and will be 25 next month (24th May). > > Same date of birth as mine!!! (albeit some 20 years apart)........and we > both enjoy TD.........Is this a coincidence or what........maybe there IS > something in astrology after all! (Heh! heh! heh!). > > Ash Ash, you are 4 ??? ;-) Being born on May 24, that makes you a Gemini, an air sign, along with Libra and Aquarius. Like all other air sign, you should favor logic and rational thoughts. Being born in mid-February, I am an Aquarian with a Gemini ascender, and, as it is well known -- and expected -- we Aquarians don't believe in astrology... C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet P.S.: actually, that could be a neat thing to check out: see if TD finds more support from a group than another. My bet is that it will score high with people with 2 ears! ;-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 9:14 pm Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: 'ashok prema' > >Marcel wrote: > >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>>Really-From: Vicky Rudd >> > > >He, I'm 24 too and will be 25 next month (24th May). > > >Same date of birth as mine!!! (albeit some 20 years apart)........and we >both enjoy TD.........Is this a coincidence or what........maybe there IS >something in astrology after all! (Heh! heh! heh!). Nope, pure coincidence I think. :-) But a very strange coincidence indeed. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 9:13 pm Subject: Re: just when u thought the tape tree was final.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-06 16:22:45 EDT, you write: << Thanks for including me in the next tree. Anything from my list you want a copy of? You got the new Goldtri 2CD emusic compilation from UK artists? You into Radio Massacre International? >> send me ur list of stuff...thanks...tom w From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 9:17 pm Subject: Gotcha ! ;-) Was Re: just when u thought the tape tree was final.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Roger Smith' Psst. It seems that you wanted to send this one directly to Tom, eh ? You wrote: > You got the new Goldtri 2CD emusic compilation from UK artists? Err. Although most of the tracks on the GoldTri comp are from UK artists, I know for sure that it´s an international EM sampler featuring artists from the USA, Denmark, The Netherlands, Germany and the UK... ;-) Copies are still available and they are quite cheaply .... Check http://www.ratfink.demon.co.uk/stonker/ for further details Kind Regards Jens von Vierd From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: GoldTri CD Availability? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:17:01 +0200 >Subject: Re: Gotcha ! ;-) Was Re: just when u thought the tape tree was final.... >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Jens Peschke > >> Really-From: 'Roger Smith' > >> You got the new Goldtri 2CD emusic compilation from UK artists? > >Copies are still available and they are quite cheaply .... > >Check > >http://www.ratfink.demon.co.uk/stonker/=20 > >for further details I went to that webpage, and all I found was a link to click on called 'Pre-order now!' There was no mention of price, overseas postage, and/or the amount of copies still left. -- Steven Feldman --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12663 Re: GoldTri CD Availability? Jens Peschke Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Introductions Merry-go-round ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman You know, I think the addition of two new female subscribers has gone far in veering this list into an 'Introduction' service in the vein of -- dare I say it? -- computer dating -- what with all the introducing of one another and the astrological sign comparisons and all. When I posted a notice to the TDI website 'guestbook' in service of entreating Fred Smythe to re-post his retort to the Edgar and Jerome rant, I thought to myself how the guestbook was beginning to seem like a mini-version of *this* list. Now, however, this list seems to be getting to be like the guestbook! :( ;) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12689 Re: Introductions Merry-go-round Michael Fox Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Windspell Music Sale: $13.98 Import CDs (even doubles!) cc: Golden Triangle mailing list , Space Music Mailing List ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Hi, Gang, I just thought you all should know that Mike Garrison's mail-order service, 'Windspell Music,' is having a CD sale that just can't be beat: most of his stock--made up almost exclusively of import CDs--is on sale for just $13.98 per title *including 2-CD sets*! I don't know how long the sale is running, but the flyer I received was post-dated March 28th. Here's an example of some of the stuff he has available: o Andy Pickford TERRAFORMER $13.98 o Andy Pickford MAELSTROM $13.98 o Andy Pickford DYSTOPIA $13.98 o Andy Pickford XENOMORPH $13.98 o Andy Pickford WORKS LIVE, VOLUME I $13.98 o Andy Pickford WORKS VOLUME II 'LIVE' $13.98 o Brainwork SUNRISE $13.98 o Brainwork BACK TO THE ROOTS $13.98 o Brainwork RHTHYM BASE $13.98 o Brainwork V (double-CD) $13.98 (!) o Brainwork LIVE $13.98 o Brainwork BRAINOTRONIC $13.98 o Brainwork SENSUAL REFLECTIONS $13.98 o Ian Boddy SPIRITS $13.98 o Ian Boddy DRIVE $13.98 o Ian Boddy JADE $13.98 o Ian Boddy ODYSSEY $13.98 o Ian Boddy UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE $13.98 o Ian Boddy THE CLIMB $13.98 o Ian Boddy THE DEEP $13.98 o Ian Boddy PHOENIX $13.98 o John Dyson (of Wavestar fame) EVOLUTION $13.98 o John Dyson (of Wavestar fame) DIFFERENT VALUES $13.98 o The Nightcrawlers TRAVELLING BACKWARDS (double-CD) $13.98 (!) o PERU THE PROPHECIES $13.98 o PERU CONTINENTS $13.98 o PERU MACCHU PICCHU $13.98 o PERU CONSTELLATIONS $13.98 o PERU POINTS OF THE COMPASS $13.98 o Synco 85-89 $13.98 o Synco EVOLUTION OF EVENTS $13.98 o Waveshape SIGMA $13.98 o Waveshape POLYCHROME $13.98 o Waveshape ZYKLUS $13.98 o Waveshape WELLENFORMEN $13.98 o Waveshape LIVE $13.98 Also available are 8 Ron Boots CDs, 12 Mike Garrison CDs, and 9 Bernd Kistenmacher CDs. Even better, there are 29 CDs listed at $11.98, including 2 by Joerg Strawe, 7 by John Kerr, 5 by David Wright, and CLOSE BY MY DISTANCE by Mario Schonwalder. The CDs mentioned above priced at $13,98 and $11.98 are from Austria, Belgium, England, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, and the USA. Shipping and handling costs $4.00. The address to mail to is Windspell Music 1293 N.W. Wall Street #1515 Bend, OR 97701 Credit Card Orders (ORDERS ONLY PLEASE): call 1-800-597-WIND (9463) Fax Orders (INC. CREDIT CARD NUMBER & EXPIR DATE): call 1-541-389-2031 Well, that's all you need to know. Andy Pickford--whose CDs usually cost a heck of a lot more--is one of the best e-musicians going, and some say the same for Ian Boddy and Ron Boots. Brainwork is a German duo putting out some of the best sequencer, upbeat e-music you'll hear. It is *not* like TD, despite its Berlin-school roots. (Ask Lars about Brainwork.) PERU, the Nightcrawlers, Synco, Waveshape, and Wavestar are all similar to TD in one way or another. Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: , and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, R. Carty, Greinke, Serrie. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12656 Kaleidoscope's 'Tangerine Dream' Sean Montgomery Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12657 Re: Kaleidoscope's 'Tangerine Dream' Brian E. Kirby Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12658 Re: Windspell Music Sale: $13.98 Import CDs (even Ken Beal Tue 4/7/1998 7 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 11:32 pm Subject: armin blue fear ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'david clarke' has anyone heard blue fear by armin ,it sounds like a 90,s rubycon ... superb..... >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: Steven Feldman > > > I now have a copy of the Relativity POLAND 2-CD set that comes in >a slimline case, and a copy that comes in a double-jewel case, so I can >say with certainty that the following is so (at least as far as the two >CDs *I* have are concerned): > > o the text on the disks in the slimline set is printed in brown > o the text on the disks in the double-case set is printed in blue > > -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12662 'The Analogue Space Years' Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12665 Re: armin blue fear Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12668 Re: armin blue fear Dan J. Schulte Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12698 Re: armin blue fear AOutland Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 11:36 pm Subject: Kaleidoscope's 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery Perhaps trying to capitalize on Tangerine Dream's current flood of reissues, compilations and general vault-clearing, it seems that the band Kaleidoscope is reissuing their 1967 album 'Tangerine Dream'. It's available from RPM records in Texas for 20 bucks U.S. http://rpmrecords.com/arrivals.html SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12657 Re: Kaleidoscope's 'Tangerine Dream' Brian E. Kirby Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 8:07 pm Subject: Re: Kaleidoscope's 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' > Perhaps trying to capitalize on Tangerine Dream's current flood of > reissues, compilations and general vault-clearing, it seems that the band > Kaleidoscope is reissuing their 1967 album 'Tangerine Dream'. It's > available from RPM records in Texas for 20 bucks U.S. And retailers are getting confused. I've seen it in one store's TD section already.... -B. Kirby From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 12:09 am Subject: Re: Windspell Music Sale: $13.98 Import CDs (even doubles!) cc: Golden Triangle mailing list , Space Music Mailing List ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ken Beal Howdy.. I just talked to Windspell...even placed an order....anyway...I was told the double CDs are not 13.98, but 29.98 and that the sale would last this week...get 'em while you can (Nightcrawlers - Travelling...is sold out!). Happy buying, Ken At 3:31 PM -0700 4/6/98, tadream mailing list wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: Steven Feldman > > >Hi, Gang, > I just thought you all should know that Mike Garrison's mail-order >service, 'Windspell Music,' is having a CD sale that just can't be beat: >most of his stock--made up almost exclusively of import CDs--is on sale >for just $13.98 per title *including 2-CD sets*! I don't know how long >the sale is running, but the flyer I received was post-dated March 28th. > Here's an example of some of the stuff he has available: > >o Andy Pickford TERRAFORMER $13.98 >o Andy Pickford MAELSTROM $13.98 >o Andy Pickford DYSTOPIA $13.98 >o Andy Pickford XENOMORPH $13.98 >o Andy Pickford WORKS LIVE, VOLUME I $13.98 >o Andy Pickford WORKS VOLUME II 'LIVE' $13.98 >o Brainwork SUNRISE $13.98 >o Brainwork BACK TO THE ROOTS $13.98 >o Brainwork RHTHYM BASE $13.98 >o Brainwork V (double-CD) $13.98 (!) >o Brainwork LIVE $13.98 >o Brainwork BRAINOTRONIC $13.98 >o Brainwork SENSUAL REFLECTIONS $13.98 >o Ian Boddy SPIRITS $13.98 >o Ian Boddy DRIVE $13.98 >o Ian Boddy JADE $13.98 >o Ian Boddy ODYSSEY $13.98 >o Ian Boddy UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE $13.98 >o Ian Boddy THE CLIMB $13.98 >o Ian Boddy THE DEEP $13.98 >o Ian Boddy PHOENIX $13.98 >o John Dyson (of Wavestar fame) EVOLUTION $13.98 >o John Dyson (of Wavestar fame) DIFFERENT VALUES $13.98 >o The Nightcrawlers TRAVELLING BACKWARDS (double-CD) $13.98 (!) >o PERU THE PROPHECIES $13.98 >o PERU CONTINENTS $13.98 >o PERU MACCHU PICCHU $13.98 >o PERU CONSTELLATIONS $13.98 >o PERU POINTS OF THE COMPASS $13.98 >o Synco 85-89 $13.98 >o Synco EVOLUTION OF EVENTS $13.98 >o Waveshape SIGMA $13.98 >o Waveshape POLYCHROME $13.98 >o Waveshape ZYKLUS $13.98 >o Waveshape WELLENFORMEN $13.98 >o Waveshape LIVE $13.98 > > Also available are 8 Ron Boots CDs, 12 Mike Garrison CDs, and 9 >Bernd Kistenmacher CDs. > Even better, there are 29 CDs listed at $11.98, including 2 by >Joerg Strawe, 7 by John Kerr, 5 by David Wright, and CLOSE BY MY >DISTANCE by Mario Schonwalder. > The CDs mentioned above priced at $13,98 and $11.98 are from >Austria, Belgium, England, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, >and the USA. > >Shipping and handling costs $4.00. >The address to mail to is > Windspell Music > 1293 N.W. Wall Street #1515 > Bend, OR 97701 > >Credit Card Orders (ORDERS ONLY PLEASE): call 1-800-597-WIND (9463) >Fax Orders (INC. CREDIT CARD NUMBER & EXPIR DATE): call 1-541-389-2031 > > Well, that's all you need to know. > Andy Pickford--whose CDs usually cost a heck of a lot more--is one >of the best e-musicians going, and some say the same for Ian Boddy and >Ron Boots. Brainwork is a German duo putting out some of the best >sequencer, upbeat e-music you'll hear. It is *not* like TD, despite its >Berlin-school roots. (Ask Lars about Brainwork.) > PERU, the Nightcrawlers, Synco, Waveshape, and Wavestar are all >similar to TD in one way or another. > >Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: >, and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: >Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o >Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL >FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, R. Carty, Greinke, Serrie. >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Vault Clearing? Hee hee, ho ho, heh heh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:07:42 +0000 >Subject: Re: Kaleidoscope's 'Tangerine Dream' >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Brian E. Kirby > >> Perhaps trying to capitalize on Tangerine Dream's current flood of >> reissues, compilations and general vault-clearing [. . .] 'Vault-clearing'? Is that something like an enema? Or the reaming that Ol' Edgar has been giving us re the sheer amount of expenditure we TD fans have had to lay out in the last year-and-a-half (and the coming year)? ;) >>[. . .], it seems that the band Kaleidoscope is reissuing their 1967 >>album 'Tangerine Dream'. It's available from RPM records in Texas >>for 20 bucks U.S. > >And retailers are getting confused. I've seen it in one store's TD >section already.... Don't feel too bad. After all, Edgar saw to it that AMBIENT MONKEYS was labeled as being a TD album rather than an eponymous one-shot debut, didn't he? ;) Hee hee. -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: LUNAR by Zeitgeist: TD meets Dead Can Dance(?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Again (what's that, 5 times today?) Here's some more info peripheral to TD: -- Steven Feldman + + + + + + + From: 'Richard Stockwell' To: 'newsletter' Subject: Cranium_Music_Newsletter #7 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:35:06 +1200 Sender: cranium@c... Reply-To: 'Richard Stockwell' Welcome to the Cranium Newsletter # 7 (Early April 98). [lotsa stuff deleted] NEW IN STOCK [more stuff deleted] NZ$ US$ AUS$ CIRCLE PORI 28 18 25 (Instrumental Finnish 'NEU' meets 'CAN') DISCIPLINE UNFOLDED LIKE..28 18 25 (Current talk of the prog world) NEW SUN FRACTURED 28 16 23 (Space Rock with fusion) NEW SUN AFFECTS 26 16 23 (Latest. Superb Space Rock release) ZEITGEIST LUNAR 20 13 18 --> (Tangerine Dream meets Dead Can Dance) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you wish to be removed from this mailing list, send an email to: majordomo@c... with the words unsubscribe newsletter in the email body (not subject). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This mailing list is owned by Cranium Music - http://www.cranium.co.nz, and is maintained by webmaster@c... . We use Majordomo, version 1.94.3. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: This Kent Borrefjaell Eskilksen Guy cc: Hypnotic Records ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Hi, When I was at Lars' last week, he played all sorts of keen stuff, but perhaps best of all was the stuff by the guy who wrote the TD book, 30 YEARS OF DREAMING: Kent Borrefjaell Eskilksen. Lars played me much of his cassette, TIMESCAPE, and it blew me away. I haven't heard stuff this good since discovering Brainwork and Andy Pickford! I was quite startled to learn that Kent's music had been previously heard by TD fans on the CD, TANGERINE AMBIENCE VOLUME II. As it turns out, he went under two aliases on that album. These two are his: o (Track 2:) 'Stratosfear' by Ttoken Angle o (Track 3:) 'White Eagle' by Kenton Files To those of you who loves these two tracks (and who wouldn't?), I urge you to obtain Kent's cassette tape. It's really too bad that he does not have a deal with a label, because his stuff's way too good to not be widely distributed. As it is, the disservice being done is to the potential music listener more than the potential music retailer. Here's the mailing address: Kent Borrefjaell Eskildsen Klangshoj Studio Sandbakkevej 7 DK 9800 Hjorring Denmark Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: , and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, R. Carty, Greinke, Serrie. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 3:48 am Subject: 'The Analogue Space Years' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' Maybe I am becoming pedantic at old age, but it sure bugs the dickens out of me that Zeit is misspelled everywhere (on the box, cover, back of front cover, etc.) as 'Ziet.' Amazingly, the putz who laid out the cover states clearly that track 2 is: '2. ZIET' ....and under it, in tiny letters, 'Taken from Zeit.' Someone ought to have a chat with Mr. Cleopatra. Maybe they ought to copyright it, since there is no German word 'Ziet.' Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:43 am Subject: Re: GoldTri CD Availability? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Steven Feldman > I went to that webpage, and all I found was a link to click on >called 'Pre-order now!' There was no mention of price, overseas >postage, and/or the amount of copies still left. You´re right, it should say 'order now' instead of 'pre-order now'. But prices incl. postage are included (only visible with grafix=on): http://www.ratfink.demon.co.uk/stonker/order.html It´s 10 UKP (British pounds) incl. shipping to the USA. mailto:ANDY_BLOYCE@C... for further details (payment in US$ at all)... Some MPEG3 (mono) samples are to be found at http://www.ratfink.demon.co.uk/stonker/sounds.html More than 50% of the 500 copies are already sold, it was released on March, the 21th (1998), btw. Kind Regards Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 6, 1998 8:59 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jen Phillips Well, last time I checked, I did NOT have a penis. :-> tadream mailing list wrote: > In a message dated 98-04-04 18:40:28 EST, you write: Gabe: > > << Wow, two new female listmembers in the course of a week! >> > Jen, Ami, and Vicky makes three. Unless Jen turned out to be a guy; > anyone know? Dell -- Jen jenmp@s... 'or' enigma2@g... Visit My Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/4032/index.html UIN: 1134643 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 3:59 am Subject: Re: armin blue fear ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'david clarke' > > > has anyone heard blue fear by armin ,it sounds like a 90,s rubycon ... Another one????? E-Man np: 70s Rubycon From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:08 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Jen Phillips > > > > << Wow, two new female listmembers in the course of a week! >> > > Jen, Ami, and Vicky makes three. Unless Jen turned out to be a guy; > > anyone know? Dell > > > Well, last time I checked, I did NOT have a penis. :-> Hee hee....oh, hee...hahaha....too funny, sheesh,......hahahahaha....hee hee..... *ahem* E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 6:29 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: ------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Jen Phillips > > Well, last time I checked, I did NOT have a penis. :-> > Yeeeeehahahahahahaha!!!! Well, I'm sure that in some way, this is TD related. In fact, I know it is. D- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12670 Re: Introductions all around :) Robert Grabowsky Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 6:31 am Subject: Re: armin blue fear ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'david clarke' > > > > > > has anyone heard blue fear by armin ,it sounds like a 90,s rubycon ... > > Another one????? > > E-Man > np: 70s Rubycon I am selling several promo albums of mine with nothing but 70 minutes of a non-changing droning sequence. Be warned...the sequence does not change at all. One sequence, one pattern, 70 minutes through the whole CD. Email me if you want one...seriously hehehe. Dano, who is hoping no one actually emails me for one of these...but I will make one if you wanna buy it hehehe. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 6:07 am Subject: Reply to everyone (I hope) :o) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vicky Rudd OK, Guys & Gals <----- (better, Andrew?) [Rob] I like inspired poetry, do you write anything in other forums? ... Good to see someone expressing an interest in poetry on this list. Add me to it. Consider yourself added! And, no, I only write poetry... Unless you count the analytical work I do as someone seeking an English degree. [Goozer] Well I for one certainly enjoyed reading the wonderful missive you posted in the TaDream Guestbook! ... TD is very much a part of Life's soundtrack for me; I find the music not only inspirational but provocative as well. Thanks for the great compliment! It's always nice to see your work appreciated, especially when it comes from your heart. TaDream is a big part of my life's tapestry. I have found it provocative as well, as is evidenced by some of my latest writings! :o) [Daventura] Vicky writes: so feel free to backhand me if I'm going about it the wrong way. Is this something you're used to, or enjoy? No, I'm definitely not used to it, and I don't believe I'd enjoy it. It was just a joke, albeit not a very good one! :P Thank you for the welcome, though... [Vic] What can this mean, only ONE thing. A PARTY! Groovy :) Where and when? You know....I have a really big house.... BTW: I had no idea so many TD fans were from the South... [Pete] Wow. Oh Wow. GD. Edgar guitar, Chris drum. Just turn down the lights. Only one thing missing from your haiku.... The seventh syllable in the second line. Haikus are 5-7-5. Good job, though!! And thanks for the warm welcome... [E-Man] Cool! I have the audacity to call myself an all-around writer, among other things... What other things? Or do we even want to know??? LOL [Francisco] Welcome poet Vicky to this humble room. Thanks Francisco!! If I ever shorten your name, and it offends you, please pardon me. My best friend's name is Cisco! [Daventura] First of all, shouldn't that be 'since there are a lot?....I'm sure that there are a lot of redneck Spice Girl fans that can't read/write English, either. But I'm not being forced to learn their language... Hey, give him a break! Francisco's error wasn't nearly as horrific as Red Neck Spice Girl fans. Believe me, I've seen them. There's no comparison. :) [Dell] Hi, Vicky, 'bout time you made it here. Hey, Dell!!! Thanks... I'm from the South, and I'm female, so I'm allowed to be slower than most. ** Thanks for the wonderfully warm welcome! (hmmmmm...allitertion) Victoria Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12671 Re: Reply to everyone (I hope) :o) DAVENTURA Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 6:41 am Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky >Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > > >tadream mailing list wrote: >------------------------------------------------------ >> Really-From: Jen Phillips >> >> Well, last time I checked, I did NOT have a penis. :-> >Yeeeeehahahahahahaha!!!! Well, I'm sure that in some way, this is TD >related. In fact, I know it is. > >D- You mean something like the pic of Jerome whizzing on a tree stump in the 70-80 boxset photos? THE HIGHLANDER From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 8:58 am Subject: Re: Reply to everyone (I hope) :o) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Woo hoo, I get mentioned twice in Vicky's reply. Boy, do I feel special. And by the way, Francisco knew I was joking. I personally Emailed him to make sure. Although some here have yet to respond to some of my witty remarks, I make them for the same reason that Edgar and Company make music, for my own personal enjoyment. That being said, I hope you enjoy this list as much as I do....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 9:09 am Subject: armin's blue fear ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen > >Really-From: 'david clarke' > >has anyone heard blue fear by armin ,it sounds like a 90,s rubycon ... >superb..... > I'm innocent! armin Armin Theissen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Armagh Observatory email: ath@s... College Hill http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath Armagh BT61 9DG Phone: (+44) 1861 522928 N. Ireland Fax: (+44) 1861 527174 o/ \o_ \ / __ __o |o \__/o | o____ |__ __/ \__/o | / | / o\ / | > / \ /o\ o| << | \o__/ Ouch!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 1:52 pm Subject: RE: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > Well, last time I checked, I did NOT have a penis. :-> > You really should get one. Urinating while standing up is one of the greatest pleasures life has to offer. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 2:00 pm Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #243 (YAWN!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Can we please get back to the subject at hand.... MJ NP: The Park Is Mine Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12684 Re: tadream-digest V16 #243 (YAWN!) TWeibre361 Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12699 Re: tadream-digest V16 #243 (YAWN!) AOutland Wed 4/8/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 2:14 pm Subject: re: This Kent Borrefjaell Eskilksen Guy (-->Ash P) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> >Really-From: Steven Feldman >Hi, > When I was at Lars' last week, he played all sorts of keen stuff, >but perhaps best of all was the stuff by the guy who wrote the TD book, >30 YEARS OF DREAMING: Kent Borrefjaell Eskilksen. Lars played me >much of his cassette, TIMESCAPE, and it blew me away. I haven't heard >stuff this good since discovering Brainwork and Andy Pickford! [...] -- yes, I was listening to Timescape again last night and I have to agree with steve; lately when I want to hear something non-TD it is usually shreeve or kent so he's been getting lots of deck-time. IMO Kent's music is really on par with mark shreeve's stuff. this is really kick-butt stuff. Ash, are you reading this? are you looking for new artists for your label ;-) -- you know the stuff is good if **steven and I agree** and so much so that we both are trying to play yenta (matchmaker) for kent ;-) I mean, for chrissakes, steven actually likes desert train! ;-) here's kent's e-mail for those with a faster mail 'metabolism' kent-nbe@p... > Here's the mailing address: > Kent Borrefjaell Eskildsen > Klangshoj Studio > Sandbakkevej 7 > DK 9800 Hjorring > Denmark lars BTW: Kent, do you have any more music?? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:40 pm Subject: horns of doom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 can i talk about horns of doom,what an amazing piece of music this is, i first heard it about 3 months ago,a 5 min piece off strange attractions.Then i swapped some discs with t.s.l (whos on this list)and got the full version on the 13/10/80 cdr,which i cant stop playing (soooooo good), I cant believe its took me 18 years to hear this piece,i wonder what other gems i have been missing over the years. regards nick still dreaming after 23 years Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12683 Re: horns of doom Sean Montgomery Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12694 Re: horns of doom DAVENTURA Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12702 Re: horns of doom feldon@p... Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12716 Re: horns of doom Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12790 Re: horns of doom szatmari pal Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 9:59 pm Subject: New (dis)member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Flemming Larsen I..must....obey....the..voices......in....my head......uuuhhhh. Hup. They command me....aaarrgh...to......join the......ranks.....of active members on...the maillinglist. eeehh. Hi all TaDreamers. Following the resent flood of new members on this maillinglist, I'm breaking the silence of lurkmode to introduce myself. My name is (right now ;-) ) Flemming Larsen, and I live in Denmark. I'm 32 years old, and I have been a fan of TD, Schulze, Oldfield and pretty much all other electronic and instrumental music for 18 years now. Has TD's music changed me ? Of course it has. I'm a multible split personallity now. And since there are more than one person in me, I can enjoy their music even more ;-) I wouldn't exactly call myself a die hard collector. I enjoy the music. That's more important to me. I do like to get my grubby hands on rare recordings as well as live recordings now and then, but I don't go hunting for it. I would like to join a tape tree some day, as I have equipment for doing fast copies of high quality. I also hope to be able to do digitally enhanced copies to CDR in the near future (ie noise removal, eq, and so on). My first introduction to Tangerine Dream was thru my older sister. No, she is not a TD fan. She had bought Pheadra and Rubycon thinking it was something else. She was into Oldfield at the time. I was into Jarre. She heard me playing Equinox one day (I had just bought it), and she came into my room carrying the two records which would shape the rest of my life, and empty my pockets ;-) 'Would you like to have these two LPs ?', she said, ignorant of the implications if would have on my future life. 'I don't know !', I said, 'Let me hear them !'........BAAAMMM I was blown away. Previously my knowledge of synth was Kraftwerk and prettyboy Jarre. I had no idea synth could be like that. Following that I immidiately went out and bought the TD 70'-80' box, because I was hungry to learn about this incredible group. I immidiately fell in love with 'Tangram Part 1', and Tangram has remained my favourite TD album ever since. Allthough my first introduction to TD was the 74-80 period, I have found real magic in TD's music no matter what period it has come from. Today I like most of it, but not all. You can't expect to like e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g. an artist or a group ever makes. Albums I initially discarded as bad, has grown on me over time. Initially I didn't like Tyger very much, but for some strange reason 'Book Of Dreams' changed that a couple of years ago. Today I actually like it, allthough it's not one of their strongest albums (IMO). I suspect the same thing will happen with the 90s albums. I'm not too partial to Rockoon, TotT, ToB and Goblins Club, but I do like some of the tracks on each album. I think they will grow on me as time goes by. Here's my Top 3 TD lists. Top 3 Studio Albums Tangram, Underwater Sunlight, Rubycon. Top 3 Soundtracks Legend, Thief, Shy People Top 3 Live Albums Encore, Poland, StudioMiles Top 3 Best Of Tangents, 70'-80' , Dream Roots Collection Top 3 Bootlegs Antarktis, Ratikon, Sonambulistic Imagery Favourite movie title of all times : I Dismember Mama >:-) Cheers. Flemming. np. Schulze/Namlook - The Dark Side Of The Moog 6 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12680 Re: New (dis)member DAVENTURA Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12685 Re: New (dis)member Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 9:59 pm Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Flemming Larsen 'ashok prema' wrote : >Marcel wrote: > >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>>Really-From: Vicky Rudd >He, I'm 24 too and will be 25 next month (24th May). >Same date of birth as mine!!! (albeit some 20 years apart)........and we >both enjoy TD.........Is this a coincidence or what........maybe there IS >something in astrology after all! (Heh! heh! heh!). It IS a date of cosmic significance. Two dreamers on one list with the same birthdate could be interpreted as a coincidence, BUT 3 ??? :-) My birthday is 24th May 1966. :-) Taking into account that Tubular Bells was first released on the 24th May........well actually the 25th, DAMN IT !! Why couldn't he have released it on the 24th ? That would have made the date a date of cosmic importance ;-) Still 3 dreamers on one list with the same birthday ! Anyone else ? Flemming. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 9:59 pm Subject: Re:This Kent Borrefjaell Eskilksen Guy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Flemming Larsen Steven Feldman wrote : >30 YEARS OF DREAMING: Kent Borrefjaell Eskilksen. Lars played me much >of his cassette, TIMESCAPE, and it blew me away. I haven't heard stuff >this good since discovering Brainwork and Andy Pickford! > I was quite startled to learn that Kent's music had been previously >heard by TD fans on the CD, TANGERINE AMBIENCE VOLUME II. As it turns >out, he went under two aliases on that album. These two are his: > > o (Track 2:) 'Stratosfear' by Ttoken Angle > o (Track 3:) 'White Eagle' by Kenton Files Actually there are two guys on those tracks. Kent and a guy called Tony. Token and Kenton were constructed on basis of the names Kent and Tony. I know both of them (they are really great guys), and I had the pleasure of hearing the demos when they were making Stratosfear, and White Eagle. That's when I knew the Tangerine Ambience Vol.II couldn't fail. Timescape is also one of the best independant releases I've ever heard :-) Flemming. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:55 pm Subject: Re: New (dis)member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA > Flemming Larsen Welcome to the list. Now quit lurking around and participate. I forgot what the topic was this week, but then, we never stick to the topic anyway....David BTW...any left coasters..YES..Universal Amphitheatre..July 24th From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:59 pm Subject: Re: Introductions all around :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > Well, last time I checked, I did NOT have a penis. :-> > > > You really should get one. Urinating while standing up is one of > the greatest pleasures life has to offer. > > Scott That's not all we can do with it while standing up. 'Ahem'...back to TD Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:05 pm Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Flemming Larsen > > > It IS a date of cosmic significance. Two dreamers on one list with the > same birthdate > could be interpreted as a coincidence, BUT 3 ??? :-) > > My birthday is 24th May 1966. :-) Hey, this is turning into an interesting thread? Anyone have a b-day of 6-6-66? hehe E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:53 pm Subject: Re: horns of doom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I cant believe its took me 18 years to hear this piece,i wonder what > other gems i have been missing over the years. Have you picked up a copy of 'Electronic Orgy?' SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 5:03 pm Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #243 (YAWN!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-07 10:02:40 EDT, you write: << Can we please get back to the subject at hand.... >> you mean the penis thing? oh no, u said 'at hand'....sorry.... tom w np: into the mix II (hypnotic) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 4:22 pm Subject: Re: New (dis)member ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > BTW...any left coasters..YES..Universal Amphitheatre..July 24th I'd love to go. If they bring back Rick, that is. I hear the new album isn't that hot, which isn't good, considering *Talk* was such a limpy. Too bad I didn't make the Obispo shows with the *shit* line-up! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 6:54 pm Subject: Re: Please stop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Wenzler unsubscribe tadream-digest Michael Wenzler wenzlerm@i... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12687 Re: Please stop Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12693 Re: Please stop =?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWW Tue 4/7/1998 3 KB 12695 Re: Please stop DAVENTURA Tue 4/7/1998 2 KB 12707 Re: Please stop =?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWW Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 5:08 pm Subject: Re: Please stop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Michael Wenzler > > > unsubscribe tadream-digest Yolanda...we got another stiff in the john... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 6:24 pm Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Flemming Larsen > > 'ashok prema' wrote : > > >Marcel wrote: > > > >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > >>>Really-From: Vicky Rudd > > >He, I'm 24 too and will be 25 next month (24th May). > > >Same date of birth as mine!!! (albeit some 20 years apart)........and we > >both enjoy TD.........Is this a coincidence or what........maybe there IS > >something in astrology after all! (Heh! heh! heh!). > > It IS a date of cosmic significance. Two dreamers on one list with the > same birthdate > could be interpreted as a coincidence, BUT 3 ??? :-) > > My birthday is 24th May 1966. :-) > > Taking into account that Tubular Bells was first released on the > 24th May........well actually the 25th, DAMN IT !! Why couldn't he have > released it > on the 24th ? That would have made the date a date of cosmic importance > ;-) > > Still 3 dreamers on one list with the same birthday ! Anyone else ? > > Flemming. I think you'll find at least 3 people on this list with a birthday on , or near 23rd April (mine included!) Colin. n.p. Nothing--'Cause I'm going home! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 12:11 pm Subject: Re: Introductions Merry-go-round ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 06:18 PM 4/6/98 EDT, SF wrote: > You know, I think the addition of two new female subscribers has >gone far in veering this list into an 'Introduction' service in the vein >of -- dare I say it? -- computer dating -- what with all the introducing >of one another and the astrological sign comparisons and all. Steven, you never cease to amaze me. Computer dating on a very international list?? Why are new people introducing themselves such a....what....threat to this list? Seems that the sign comparison was between two male members and totally harmless to all. (BTW-I'm a Libra). This ain't an all-male club. IMVHO--introduce yourselves! It's nice to get a feel for who we all are! Mike (who dropped to the far side of 50, got into TD in the 70's, likes the older stuff somewhat better but have been impressed with Oasis/DM-I, lives in the midwest) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 6:58 pm Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' E-man sez: >Hey, this is turning into an interesting thread? Anyone have a b-day of >6-6-66? How about 11-11-66 ? ;-) Jens-man np: Dead can Dance: Carneval From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 3:34 am Subject: The Tape Tree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: dan.cor@v... Hi all, More introductions all round, another newbie checking in! I am very found of live TD, so please add me to the tape tree, I live in London and can contribute some tapes and 'other' material ;-) I have already pestered Phil about some copies! Whilst you are at it you could explain to me (off list if this is a very stupid question) how the tree works. Thanks, Daniel (dan.cor@v...) np me-rad From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 9:00 pm Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-07 15:04:57 EDT, you write: << Jens-man np: Dead can Dance: Carneval >> whats this one? it rings a bell but i cant place it.... tom w np: sonar 97 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 9:00 pm Subject: Re: Please stop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' THE MAIL MUST BE SENT TO MAJORDOMO AND NOT ON THE LIST. IS THIS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?? IT'S WRITTEN ON (quite) EVERY MAIL YOU RECEIVE, ISN'T IT? >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: Michael Wenzler > > >unsubscribe tadream-digest > >Michael Wenzler >wenzlerm@i... > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 10:04 pm Subject: Re: horns of doom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA I had to bust out my copy of EO and check it out again. Sounds kinda like something from Exit, same bass line. Or was that Thief? Or are they all similar? Eighteen years? Well, let's see, I saw the '86 show, got the jacket. Then traded the jacket in '98, and got EO, then heard this. 12 years. It is a cool version, but a gem? Hmm...OK whatever, I'm easy...David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12702 Re: horns of doom feldon@p... Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12716 Re: horns of doom Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 10:10 pm Subject: Re: Please stop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Fred writes: > THE MAIL MUST BE SENT TO MAJORDOMO AND NOT ON THE LIST. IS THIS SO DIFFICULT > TO UNDERSTAND?? IT'S WRITTEN ON (quite) EVERY MAIL YOU RECEIVE, ISN'T IT? > Hey Fred...Can't you see? Look Up. COMPLAINING HERE IS USELESS...Thanks for the laugh....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 10:14 pm Subject: Signs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA OK, I'll bite. March 12, 1962. Pisces. Water sign. Left handed. All other information is in a Top Secret file, but Steve's probably read it....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 7, 1998 11:53 pm Subject: Archives ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'jowers' Could someone please tell me where I can find the archives of this list??????? Thanks, Kevin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 1:50 am Subject: Re: armin blue fear ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-07 02:29:44 EDT, you write: << I am selling several promo albums of mine with nothing but 70 minutes of a non-changing droning sequence. Be warned...the sequence does not change at all. One sequence, one pattern, 70 minutes through the whole CD. Email me if you want one...seriously hehehe. >> Naw, that's ok; I already have Ponts de Ce. Thanks anyway. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 1:59 am Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #243 (YAWN!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-07 10:02:40 EDT, you write: << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Can we please get back to the subject at hand.... >> Ummm, what was the subject at hand; anybody remember? Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:11 am Subject: VA - Rock Progression: A Collection of Rock Classics ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Here is some information on a new double CD sampler with TD: VA (Various Artists) - Rock Progression: A Collection of Rock Classics UK Snapper Music Recall 2CD SMD CD 114, 1998 Lot's of great progressive early rock bands here: Nazareth, Magnum, Curved Air, Jefferson Starship, Marillion, Black Sabbath, Colloseum II, Family, Nice, Uriah Heep, Roger Chapman, ELP (Tarkus), TD's Genesis 5:58 (with Froese, Schulze, Schnitzler), Gary Moore, Colloseum, Yes! Vic P.S. If you're going to talk about sex (and related 'items') on this list... Isn't Spring (now) the best time to DO IT :-) At least that's what I was brought up to think ;-) But then again, I may be living in the Southern Hemisphere where this doesn't apply at the moment. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12709 Re: VA - Rock Progression: A Collection of Rock C Stephen Yensen Wed 4/8/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:11 am Subject: VA - Spirit of the Age ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Here is some information on a new sampler with TD: VA (Various Artists) - Spirit of the Age UK Castle Communications RENCD 118, 1997 Lot's of great progressive early rock bands here: Yes, ELP, Curved Air, The Nice, Hawkwind (Hence the title I presume), Pink Fairies, Atomic Rooster, Brinsley Schwartz, Ten Years After, Jethro Tull, Free, T-Rex, Barclay James Harvest, Spooky Tooth, Can, and to conclude with TD's Zeit (yes, spelled correctly this time) clocking in at only 3:34! Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12743 Re: VA - Spirit of the Age Michael Fox Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:43 am Subject: Re: horns of doom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 06:04 PM 4/7/98 EDT, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: DAVENTURA > > >I had to bust out my copy of EO and check it out again. Sounds kinda like >something from Exit, same bass line. Or was that Thief? Or are they all >similar? This bassline appeared on the 4th segment of the Poland concert. Morgan feldon@p... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12716 Re: horns of doom Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 8:15 am Subject: h of d etc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 >have you picked up a copy of electronic orgy? The answer is no but i will do when i get round to it, i suppose im a bit put off by short dream tracks,i like the long pieces like their older stuff, a track only just seems as though its got going by the 5 min mark and then its faded out seems wrong to me somehow, that doesnt mean to say short tracks dont hit the mark ie harold grosskopf synthesist is a great album, its just that i prefer longer tracks like klaus schulze sense.and dreams ricochet etc. by the way ive been meaning to ask who is from where.Im from lincoln in england any other brits on this list? regards nick Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12774 Re: h of d etc Stephen Yensen Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 7:29 am Subject: Re: birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > >>E-man sez: >>Hey, this is turning into an interesting thread? Anyone have a b-day of >>6-6-66? > > >How about 11-11-66 ? ;-) Hey, we're both Scorpios! Let's form a group called The Scorpions! Wot? Is that so? The name's already been taken? AAAAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 9:22 am Subject: Kent guy and Birthdates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' I thought someone would have already given the stats about birthdates - when I was at college in a class of some 35 students, the lecturer pointed out that statistically, in a class of that size it was highly probable that 2 people would share the same nirthd ate - so in a list of 400 -- well....its more than to be expected....any statisticians out there can give us the figures?? Re: This Kent guy, (Lars!).......I am willing to listen to all tapes sent to me for possible release.......again, I have to point out that this market is so small - its really difficult to break even on new names - no romises - but hey!.......let me have a listen heh? PS Andy Pickfords new album is well on the way to production now!! Ash Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12706 Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. Colin Knowles Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12726 Nationalities Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12739 Re: Nationalities Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12754 Re: Nationalities Michael Fox Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12759 Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. Brian E. Kirby Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12770 Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. Andrew J. Rozsa Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12793 Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. Francisco Salgado C. Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 9:49 am Subject: Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: 'ashok prema' > > I thought someone would have already given the stats about birthdates - > when I was at college in a class of some 35 students, the lecturer pointed > out that statistically, in a class of that size it was highly probable that > 2 people would share the same nirthd ate - so in a list of 400 -- > well....its more than to be expected....any statisticians out there can give > us the figures?? > Yes I know off this as well..just didn't want to mention it. I was looking to see what bizare connections people were willing to make! :-)) Colin n.p. Subterranea--IQ p.s. Is it me or are most of the mailers to this list American? Is this a random thing or is it a trend of TD fans in general? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12726 Nationalities Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12739 Re: Nationalities Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12754 Re: Nationalities Michael Fox Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12759 Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. Brian E. Kirby Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12770 Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. Andrew J. Rozsa Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 11:41 am Subject: Re: Please stop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' >Hey Fred...Can't you see? Look Up. COMPLAINING HERE IS USELESS...Thanks >for the laugh....David HAHAHAHAHA, I didn't understand it that way!! HAHAHAHA!! Yes, please STOP! Fred From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 11:56 am Subject: Disc for sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: rmknudson@j... (matt knudson) I have the following disc for sale if anyone is interested. Tangerine Dream 70/90 (#60 of 400). Contact me OFF LIST if interested. Matt _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13113 Re: Disc for sale Michael Schuelke Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 11:21 am Subject: Re: VA - Rock Progression: A Collection of Rock Classics ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Stephen Yensen >Here is some information on a new sampler with TD: > >VA (Various Artists) - Spirit of the Age >UK Castle Communications RENCD 118, 1997 > >Lot's of great progressive early rock bands here: > >Yes, ELP, Curved Air, The Nice, Hawkwind (Hence the title I presume), Pink >Fairies, Atomic Rooster, Brinsley Schwartz, Ten Years After, Jethro Tull, >Free, T-Rex, Barclay James Harvest, Spooky Tooth, Can, and to conclude with >TD's Zeit (yes, spelled correctly this time) clocking in at only 3:34! > >VA (Various Artists) - Rock Progression: A Collection of Rock Classics >UK Snapper Music Recall 2CD SMD CD 114, 1998 > >Lot's of great progressive early rock bands here: > >Nazareth, Magnum, Curved Air, Jefferson Starship, Marillion, Black Sabbath, >Colloseum II, Family, Nice, Uriah Heep, Roger Chapman, ELP (Tarkus), TD's >Genesis 5:58 (with Froese, Schulze, Schnitzler), Gary Moore, Colloseum, Yes! Well worth drooling over, even without TD ... Steve. January 7, 1953. Male. Capricorn (domestic version). Left handed too. 6 foot 3 inches. 200 lb. Grey hair. Married. No children. Male (I've said that already, haven't I?) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 1:40 pm Subject: Lisa Gerrard: Since so few people are on topic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Does anyone know anything about a new Lisa Gerrard album? For the uninitiated (Dead Can Dance vocalist) MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12721 Re: Lisa Gerrard: Since so few people are on topi TWeibre361 Wed 4/8/1998 2 KB 12723 Re: Lisa Gerrard: Since so few people are on topi Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12772 Re: Lisa Gerrard: Since so few people are on topi Robert Grabowsky Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 1:42 pm Subject: NEW TD RELEASES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Since everyone with the info seems to be keeping most of it secret for the time being, why don't we have some fun speculating about what might be released in this upcoming block of 25-36 CDs that Jerome mentioned on Electrobeats? MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12717 Re: NEW TD RELEASES Plumer, Scott Wed 4/8/1998 2 KB 12724 Re: NEW TD RELEASES Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12744 Re: NEW TD RELEASES Michael Fox Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 6:59 am Subject: More Birthdates/Persistence of Vision/EO2? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Stephen, Frank' While we're on the subject of birthdays, you can put me down as one of the increasing number of members whose B-day is April 23! Can anybody inform me as to how to get POV on CDR. Please let me know off list. Also, there was a posting a while back about contents for Electronic Orgy 2. Anything ever come of this? Finally, a belated welcome to our new members. Frank n.p.-TD at the Palais Des Sports, Paris, France 2/2/81 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12718 Re: More Birthdates/Persistence of Vision/EO2? Vincent Goudreault Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:13 pm Subject: Progression magazine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' I just got the latest Progression magazine, and there's quite a lot of stuff to interest the TD fan. First, there was a catalog from a company called Resurgence. They have stuff from lots of rare prog bands, at rare prices, but they also have lots of TD. They have the Castle reissues, plus many hard to find ST's, such as: Thief, Flashpoint, Sorceror, Legend, Risky Business, Near Dark, Shy People, Wavelength, CMIYC & TPIM. Prices vary from $15 to $25. In the magazine proper, there's all this of interest: -An ad for Synergy/Larry Fast releases remastered -An ad for the CD release of Macula Transfer -An ad for the new Ashra release, from Nijmegen live in '97 -Positive review for new Amon Duul II release -Positive review for new Popol Vuh release -Neutral reviews of two new Steve Joliffe releases -Positive review of new Kitaro release -Not so positive review of Oasis (he suggested Tournado as a better recent TD release) -An ad for Oasis & Miramar's 'Collection 3' compilation Plus all the usual prog rock info, including an article about Spock's Beard. Scott E. Plumer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:10 pm Subject: horns base line ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 actually the horns of doom base line is from thief, diamond diary and scrap yard both have this base line, thief was recorded about the same time as the brussels concert on OCT 13 1980 which horns of doom came from originally. btw as weve been discussing the ladies on this list,didnt i read somwhere that outland was a girl. regards nick. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12762 Re: horns base line AOutland Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:13 pm Subject: Progression ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' Oh yeah, if you want more details on any of these, let me know. Scott E. Plumer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: Re: horns of doom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: feldon@p... > > >Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > > > >I had to bust out my copy of EO and check it out again. Sounds kinda like > >something from Exit, same bass line. Or was that Thief? Or are they all > >similar? > > This bassline appeared on the 4th segment of the Poland concert. > > Morgan > feldon@p... I wouldn't be so certain of that. I have listened to both extensively...to my ears, they are similar, but certainly not identical. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:17 pm Subject: RE: NEW TD RELEASES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Since everyone with the info seems to be keeping most of it secret for the >time being, why don't we have some fun speculating about what might be >released in this upcoming block of 25-36 CDs that Jerome mentioned on >Electrobeats? Zeit outtakes? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:15 pm Subject: Re: More Birthdates/Persistence of Vision/EO2? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: 'Stephen, Frank' > (...) > > Also, there was a posting a while back about contents for Electronic Orgy 2. > Anything ever come of this? These were wishes, what we'd hope to see if an Electronic Orgy 2 was to come out. Since we don't know if whoever was behind E.O. reads this list, there is no way to make sure that our dreams would be heard, let alone acted upon... C.B. Vincent Goudreault autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957 online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 2:49 pm Subject: peragmon faq under construction ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> dreamers going through all the material related to the 1.31.80 berlin pergamon concert, I'm realizing that there is a lot of fraudelent stuff out there (including tapes)... since the list faq is insufficient, I'm going to sit down and do an faq on quichotte/pergamon/staatsgrenze west/white clothes/beyond the wall/ the tsl cdrs/tangram/live tapes/etc etc. and am wondering if anyone out there has any contributions/info/old archived posts on this material that they could send me off-list? I know the subject has come up but it has never been comprehensively treated... thanks in advance lars Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12728 Re: peragmon faq under construction Florine Epure Wed 4/8/1998 6 KB 12740 Re: peragmon faq under construction feldon@p... Wed 4/8/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 3:09 pm Subject: more on tangram / pergamon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> does anyone have a white label promo copy of tangram; if so, is it divided into separate sections like previous WL promos? does anyone want to trade/sell a copy? or does anyone want to trade me a tape of it? if so, please e-mail me off list... at the very least, please email me the time divisions! thanks lars Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12725 Re: more on tangram / pergamon Vic Rek Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 3:38 pm Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard: Since so few people are on topic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-08 09:50:30 EDT, you write: << Does anyone know anything about a new Lisa Gerrard album? For the uninitiated (Dead Can Dance vocalist) >> its due anyday now...check either her own website, or www.4ad.com...its a collab with pieter bourke... tom w np: DAMO SUZUKI = tokyo 5/2/97 (WILD) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 3:52 pm Subject: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 I was lucky enough to pick up a copy of Ages from a local store last week. Did I see some people slating this release some months ago? Whilst I can see the annoyance at the whole double album not being re-released, I cannot see that there is any fault with the music on this album. I think this is a fascinating album - a much more melodic and rocky structure to the previous efforts (and subsequent ones too, I suppose), and which sounds surprisingly close to Cyclone in places. Surprising, that is, because I thought Cyclone was rubbished by Ed because of Steve Jolliffe's influence. However, I see many aspects of that TD album (minus the vocals, of course), in this solo piece. Does Edgar have such dislike for this one also? When does Macula Transfer come from? How does it compare with Ages and the other Froese albums around it? BTW, hello girls (Vicky, et al.) Yes, Nick, there are many other Brits here, including myself. IMO, there are more Americans on this list than Brits or Europeans mainly because (a) there are more Americans than Brits and (b) there are more Americans online than Brits. I don't know what the fan-base in general is, as far as world-wide distribution is concerned, but I think that Americans are relative new-comers to the music of TD, whereas the Brits and, of course even more so, the Germans have been aware of them for far longer. BTW(again), I'm a Scorpio too, birthdate of 22-11-67. I'm amazed that with a class of 35 there's a high probability of finding someone with the same birthday. Isn't the chance 1 in 10 (roughly)? Given that there are 365/6 days in a year, I _am_ a little surprised at the number of coincidental birthdays on the list. I did do Stats at college, but didn't do birthdays. NP : Ages - Nights of Automatic Women (a Cyclone off-cut if ever I heard one). ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12727 Re: Ages Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12729 Re: Ages Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12738 Re: Ages Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12731 Re: Ages Colin Knowles Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12735 Re: Ages Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12742 Re: Ages Vincent Goudreault Wed 4/8/1998 4 KB 12745 Re: Ages PENFOLD Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12747 Re: Ages Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 4 KB 12775 Re: Ages Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 4/9/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 4:21 pm Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard: Since so few people are on topic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Does anyone know anything about a new Lisa Gerrard album? > > For the uninitiated (Dead Can Dance vocalist) Yup, it's called 'Duality', and it is indeed a collaboration with Pieter Bourke (kingpin of a DCD sound-alike band called Eden). It should be out on the 14th. There was a track from it on the recent 4AD sampler 'Anakin', and from the sound of things it will be more like late-80s DCD albums like Aion and The Serpent's Egg than, say, Spiritchaser. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 4:28 pm Subject: Re: NEW TD RELEASES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > why don't we have some fun speculating about what might be released in > this upcoming block of 25-36 CDs that Jerome mentioned on Electrobeats? From what I've heard, those 25 disks will include - The Keep, The Transiberian Railway thing, and probably includes DM2 and Ambient Monkeys too - reissues of the Private Music albums - some concert recordings - some previously-unreleased studio material - The TD Christmas Album - A TD album of Beatles cover versions. Okay, I'm kidding about a couple of those. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 4:46 pm Subject: Re: more on tangram / pergamon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > does anyone have a white label promo copy of tangram; if so, is it divided > into separate sections like previous WL promos? does anyone want to > trade/sell a copy? or does anyone want to trade me a tape of it? if so, > please e-mail me off list... at the very least, please email me the time > divisions! I have the Japanese WLP, I wonder if it has the divisions (I'll check tonite and let you know if it does). Another bit of info for the music completist of a particular record. The US WLP copies of Phaedra, Rubycon, and Encore have these time divisions too, so I guess you could call it another 'type' of release of this music. Anyone heard of any others like this? Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 4:41 pm Subject: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > p.s. Is it me or are most of the mailers to this list American? Is this a > random thing or is it a trend of TD fans in general? I have to speak up for the Canadians here (Gabe, Vincent, Kevin, Mike, and others)! We walk among you too. While I'm sure that Americans *do* dominate this list in absolute numbers, I suspect that the *perception* that they dominate it derives from the fact that you're all a bunch of loudmouths! ;-) SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12739 Re: Nationalities Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12754 Re: Nationalities Michael Fox Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 3:50 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > > > BTW(again), I'm a Scorpio too, birthdate of 22-11-67. I'm amazed that with a Interesting. Mine is 21-11-70 (since I know you put day/month/year; we usually put month/day/year, e.g., 11-21-70). > NP : Ages - Nights of Automatic Women (a Cyclone off-cut if ever I heard one). I always liked 'Pizarro & Atahualpa' (is that spelled correctly) best. *Sigh* the days back when Ed would actually employ an acoustic guitar... E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12729 Re: Ages Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12738 Re: Ages Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 5:12 pm Subject: Re: peragmon faq under construction ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Florine Epure' tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > > dreamers > going through all the material related to the 1.31.80 berlin pergamon > concert, I'm realizing that there is a lot of fraudelent stuff out there > (including tapes)... since the list faq is insufficient, I'm going to sit > down and do an faq on quichotte/pergamon/staatsgrenze west/white > clothes/beyond the wall/ the tsl cdrs/tangram/live tapes/etc etc. and am > wondering if anyone out there has any contributions/info/old archived posts > on this material that they could send me off-list? I know the subject has > come up but it has never been comprehensively treated... > thanks in advance > lars Actually Goozer treated this subject pretty comprehensively in one of his FAQ's and cleared my questions about this - here's the Pergamon FAQ from one of Goozer's messages: Florin. ---------------------------------- _PERGAMON_ (A.K.A. _QUICHOTTE_)- While there is basically no difference between the two shows performed that day (at least as far as I have been able to determine among all my various fantapes/LP's/CD's of the shows), they remain unique among the shows from '80. This show was performed excclusively for the E. Berlin audience (and, of course, whoever was listening on the radio), despite what some have said about hearing it in '80, '81 or wherever. The first set (Evening TT: 37:27) opens with white/pink noise generators and sfx (4:30), and then segues into what was essentially an edited preview of _Tangram_ (11:20), which had yet to be released, and then moves into a long sequencer-oriented piece (21:37), similar to (but _not_ the same as) the second half of the second set ('Quichotte pt.2'). The afternoon version of this set was originally issued as _Staatsgrenze West_, with part of the wonderful encore track to tease us. The second set provided the raw material for _Quichotte_/_Pergamon_. Part of the contract for TD's performance in E. Berlin was to have it broadcast by State-run Radio and TV stations, with the stipulations that the album release be different from the broadcast, and not available on a western label for 6 years. So what you hear on _Quichotte_ is not really the set as performed at all; Pt. 1 is essentially the same, with the odd difference here and there. The 'Maelstrom' link segment between the two parts is exactly the same. Pt. 2, however, is a studio creation based on ideas of the last halves of Set 1 and Set 2, with the basic sequencer stucture and guitar solo being entirely a studio creation. For the re-release as _Pergamon_, the band simply added a (very) little more to the end of Pt. 2. There is also a 12 min. encore that is the highlight of the whole show, IMVHO. Unfortunately, it hasn't appeared on any bootleg in its full length...yet. ; ) --------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12740 Re: peragmon faq under construction feldon@p... Wed 4/8/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 5:02 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I always liked 'Pizarro & Atahualpa' (is that spelled correctly) best. > *Sigh* the days back when Ed would actually employ an acoustic guitar... > > E-Man I seem to recall acoustic guitars being used on Rockoon... ;-) SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12738 Re: Ages Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 10:57 am Subject: Edgar - Moonlighting again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Hey guys... I just got back from a short break in Paris, and whilst I was there, I swear I saw Edgar moonlighting as a cab driver. All the nordic facial hair was there, the accent was German and not French, and he even wore ageing rocker's leather pants. Anyone know if Ed's supposedly on vacation or something at the moment? :-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12736 Re: Edgar - Moonlighting again Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12746 Re: Edgar - Moonlighting again PENFOLD Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12748 Re: Edgar - Moonlighting again Dan J. Schulte Wed 4/8/1998 4 KB 12750 Re: Edgar - Moonlighting again Plumer, Scott Wed 4/8/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 5:26 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > > > > > > BTW(again), I'm a Scorpio too, birthdate of 22-11-67. I'm amazed that > with a > > Interesting. Mine is 21-11-70 (since I know you put day/month/year; we > usually put month/day/year, e.g., 11-21-70). > Some people are just plain awkward! :-) Colin n.p. (Season) Beyond the Storm CD2 (the boring one!)---Need you ask? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 5:23 pm Subject: Synergy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hi gang, I was in my local Borders yesterday, and saw some albums rereleased by Synergy. Having never heard any tunes by them I wondered what you guys think. Are they TD -ish? Worth getting? Which titles? Also on the TD list of twenty five albums, does this mean they are finally gonna release those Soundtrack alums like Red Heat and the like? Maybe we could get an official Streethawk as well. And with a Kewl Rex Smith cover....one can only hope. On another note, while I was out I found a used laserdisc of FLASHPOINT for only $15.00, the cover has slight wear , but the disc is fine. E mail me privately if you are interested in trade or sale. Thanks! Chris NP- Mainiac Cop-OS ( for the Lustig fan in all of us!) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12737 Re: Synergy Plumer, Scott Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12758 Re: Synergy Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12741 Re: Synergy Glenn Reinicke Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 19295 Re: Synergy Gary Davis Sat 11/20/1999 2 KB 19312 Re: Synergy Glenn Reinicke Sun 11/21/1999 1 KB 19313 Re: Synergy Gustavo Jobim Mon 11/22/1999 2 KB 19328 Re: Synergy Gary Davis Mon 11/22/1999 2 KB 19333 Re: Synergy Glenn Reinicke Mon 11/22/1999 1 KB 19367 Re: Synergy Sean Montgomery Tue 11/23/1999 1 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 5:31 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > p.s. Is it me or are most of the mailers to this list American? Is this a > > random thing or is it a trend of TD fans in general? > > I have to speak up for the Canadians here (Gabe, Vincent, Kevin, Mike, and > others)! We walk among you too. While I'm sure that Americans *do* > dominate this list in absolute numbers, I suspect that the *perception* > that they dominate it derives from the fact that you're all a bunch of > loudmouths! ;-) > > SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator Err..yeh! I'd forgotten about that! (he..he) Colin p.s. So..Canadians are shy and retiring then are they? ;-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12755 Re: Nationalities Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12764 Re: Nationalities ROGER HELLIWELL Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12773 Re: Nationalities Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12794 Re: Nationalities PENFOLD Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12806 Re: Nationalities Paul Nagle Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12830 Re: Nationalities TWeibre361 Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12843 Re: Nationalities AOutland Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12848 Re: Nationalities PENFOLD Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12865 Re: Nationalities Plumer, Scott Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 5:30 pm Subject: My thought on DCD.NOTD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS I always thought DCD were a wanna be Door's cover band. JMHO :) Chris Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12752 Re: My thought on DCD.NOTD Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 4:30 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > I always liked 'Pizarro & Atahualpa' (is that spelled correctly) best. > > *Sigh* the days back when Ed would actually employ an acoustic guitar... > > > > E-Man > > > I seem to recall acoustic guitars being used on Rockoon... ;-) The prob' with acoustic guitar being used by TDs in the 90s is that it dooesn't *sound* like an acoustic guitar with the production. It sounds like an electric played clean, through an amp. I like an acoustic guitar which sounds rustic and meaty, not tinny. E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 4:34 pm Subject: Re: Edgar - Moonlighting again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > > Hey guys... I just got back from a short break in Paris, and whilst > I was there, I swear I saw Edgar moonlighting as a cab driver. > > All the nordic facial hair was there, the accent was German and > not French, and he even wore ageing rocker's leather pants. > > Anyone know if Ed's supposedly on vacation or something at the > moment? :-) No wonder they cancelled the North American tour!!!!!!! Ed's puttin' away for some more gear!!!!! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 6:09 pm Subject: RE: Synergy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > I was in my local Borders yesterday, and saw some albums rereleased by Synergy. Having >never heard any tunes by them I wondered what you guys think. Are they TD -ish? Worth >getting? Which titles? Also on the TD list of twenty five albums, does this mean they are finally I have a clear vinyl version of Chords. It's not TD-ish, but more like Jarre in that he uses more conventional songs structures, but with electronic instruments. Worth getting? I just have Chords, which is nice, but. . . I dunno. His web site might have samples: http://www.synergy-emusic.com. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12758 Re: Synergy Sean Montgomery Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 6:11 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > > > I always liked 'Pizarro & Atahualpa' (is that spelled correctly) best. > > *Sigh* the days back when Ed would actually employ an acoustic guitar... > > > > E-Man > > > I seem to recall acoustic guitars being used on Rockoon... ;-) > > > SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator Let's not forget about the overdubs on the Tangents version of 'Stratosfear', and the concluding section of 'Santa Elena Marisal' from _BtS_.... Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 6:14 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > I have to speak up for the Canadians here (Gabe, Vincent, Kevin, Mike, and > others)! We walk among you too. While I'm sure that Americans *do* > dominate this list in absolute numbers, I suspect that the *perception* > that they dominate it derives from the fact that you're all a bunch of > loudmouths! ;-) > > > SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator That's just because I haven't had time to say nearly as much as I want! Give me half a chance, and I will give you one of the best impressions of an American you've ever seen ;) Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 6:11 pm Subject: Re: peragmon faq under construction ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 01:12 PM 4/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Florine Epure' > > >tadream mailing list wrote: > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >> says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >> message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >> The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> >> >> dreamers >> going through all the material related to the 1.31.80 berlin pergamon >> concert, I'm realizing that there is a lot of fraudelent stuff out there >> (including tapes)... since the list faq is insufficient, I'm going to sit >> down and do an faq on quichotte/pergamon/staatsgrenze west/white >> clothes/beyond the wall/ the tsl cdrs/tangram/live tapes/etc etc. and am >> wondering if anyone out there has any contributions/info/old archived posts >> on this material that they could send me off-list? I know the subject has >> come up but it has never been comprehensively treated... >> thanks in advance >> lars > >Actually Goozer treated this subject pretty comprehensively in one of his FAQ's >and cleared my questions about this - here's the Pergamon FAQ from one of >Goozer's messages: > >Florin. > >---------------------------------- > >_PERGAMON_ (A.K.A. _QUICHOTTE_)- While there is basically no difference >between the two shows performed that day (at least as far as I have been >able to determine among all my various fantapes/LP's/CD's of the shows), >they remain unique among the shows from '80. This show was performed >excclusively for the E. Berlin audience (and, of course, whoever was >listening on the radio), despite what some have said about hearing it in >'80, '81 or wherever. The first set (Evening TT: 37:27) opens with >white/pink noise generators and sfx (4:30), and then segues into what was >essentially an edited preview of _Tangram_ (11:20), which had yet to be >released, and then moves into a long sequencer-oriented piece (21:37), >similar to (but _not_ the same as) the second half of the second set >('Quichotte pt.2'). The afternoon version of this set was originally issued >as _Staatsgrenze West_, with part of the wonderful encore track to tease >us. > >The second set provided the raw material for _Quichotte_/_Pergamon_. Part >of the contract for TD's performance in E. Berlin was to have it broadcast >by State-run Radio and TV stations, with the stipulations that the album >release be different from the broadcast, and not available on a western >label for 6 years. So what you hear on _Quichotte_ is not really the set as >performed at all; Pt. 1 is essentially the same, with the odd difference >here and there. The 'Maelstrom' link segment between the two parts is >exactly the same. Pt. 2, however, is a studio creation based on ideas of >the last halves of Set 1 and Set 2, with the basic sequencer stucture and >guitar solo being entirely a studio creation. For the re-release as >_Pergamon_, the band simply added a (very) little more to the end of Pt. 2. > >There is also a 12 min. encore that is the highlight of the whole show, >IMVHO. Unfortunately, it hasn't appeared on any bootleg in its full >length...yet. ; ) An uncut, unedited MP3 sound file of this 13:52 encore does exist. Wow, it's something else! Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 6:07 pm Subject: RE: Synergy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Glenn Reinicke Synergy is actually one guy, Larry Fast, who has worked with a number of artists, Peter Gabriel being one of them. The music and arrangements are very complex and not like Tangerine Dream. Try Sequencer first - there's an arrangement of Classical Gas that will tear apart a house or small office complex if played at the correct volume. If you like that one, I'd move on to Games and then get Cords. > Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > > > Hi gang, > I was in my local Borders yesterday, and saw some albums > rereleased by Synergy. Having never heard any tunes by them I wondered > what you guys think. Are they TD -ish? Worth getting? Which titles? > Also on the TD list of twenty five albums, does this mean they are > finally gonna release those Soundtrack alums like Red Heat and the > like? Maybe we could get an official Streethawk as well. And with a > Kewl Rex Smith cover....one can only hope. > On another note, while I was out I found a used laserdisc of > FLASHPOINT for only $15.00, the cover has slight wear , but the disc > is fine. E mail me privately if you are interested in trade or sale. > Thanks! > Chris > NP- Mainiac Cop-OS ( for the Lustig fan in all of us!) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 6:27 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > (...) > > BTW(again), I'm a Scorpio too, birthdate of 22-11-67. I'm amazed that with a > class of 35 there's a high probability of finding someone with the same > birthday. Isn't the chance 1 in 10 (roughly)? Given that there are 365/6 days > in a year, I _am_ a little surprised at the number of coincidental birthdays on > the list. I did do Stats at college, but didn't do birthdays. > Actually, the high probability hinted above is to find 2 people out of 35 that have the same birthdate, *not* to have one in 35 that actually matches a *given* date. In essence, you have 35 matching opportunity, i.e. take person #1, and you have 34 chances to match that bristdate. Then, move on to person #2, and check the date against the 33 other (you've aleardy attempted a match with #1), and so on. The total of all those probabilities is the one you are after... Thus, basically, you nearly have 17 times 1 chance out of 10. (where 17 is the average of the sum of 34+33+32+...+2+1), but even the '1 out of 10' changes as you eliminate already checked dates. C.B.V.Goudreault From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 12:08 pm Subject: Re: VA - Spirit of the Age ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 10:11 PM 4/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >Yes, ELP, Curved Air, The Nice, Hawkwind (Hence the title I presume), Pink >Fairies, Atomic Rooster, Brinsley Schwartz, Ten Years After, Jethro Tull, >Free, T-Rex, Barclay James Harvest, Spooky Tooth, Can, and to conclude with >TD's Zeit (yes, spelled correctly this time) clocking in at only 3:34! Gads! I've got most of this on vinyl! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 12:44 pm Subject: Re: NEW TD RELEASES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 08:42 AM 4/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >Since everyone with the info seems to be keeping most of it secret for the >time being, why don't we have some fun speculating about what might be >released in this upcoming block of 25-36 CDs that Jerome mentioned on >Electrobeats? Rockoon, Optical, Tyrany.....nothin' but the GOOD stuff!;-) Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 7:00 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 18:26 199804.08 +0100, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: Colin Knowles >> Interesting. Mine is 21-11-70 (since I know you put day/month/year; we >> usually put month/day/year, e.g., 11-21-70). >> > >Some people are just plain awkward! :-) I like being awkward. Mine is 6408.13 Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 7:00 pm Subject: Re: Edgar - Moonlighting again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 09:34 199804.08 -0700, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >> Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >> Anyone know if Ed's supposedly on vacation or something at the >> moment? :-) > >No wonder they cancelled the North American tour!!!!!!! Ed's puttin' away >for some more gear!!!!! not surprising. See my sig.quote for the reason why Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 7:13 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > > > I was lucky enough to pick up a copy of Ages from a local store last week. Did > I see some people slating this release some months ago? Whilst I can see the > annoyance at the whole double album not being re-released, I cannot see that > there is any fault with the music on this album. Guess you never read my D:Ages review some months ago. ;) > I think this is a fascinating album - a much more melodic and rocky structure I came to the completely opposite conclusion--about the melodic part, anyway. This has to be Edgar's most mindlessly minimalistic album. > to the previous efforts (and subsequent ones too, I suppose), and which sounds > surprisingly close to Cyclone in places. Surprising, that is, because I thought > Cyclone was rubbished by Ed because of Steve Jolliffe's influence. However, I > see many aspects of that TD album (minus the vocals, of course), in this solo > piece. Does Edgar have such dislike for this one also? He didn't speak so negatively of it in the interview Mark Prendergast gave him for the BtS notes, but, he might be less proud of it than some of his other releases. If I were in Edgar's shoes, I'd certainly be more proud of _Stuntman_ than of _Ages_. Certainly _Stuntman_ has better quality of production and composition than _Ages_, IMO. > When does Macula Transfer come from? How does it compare with Ages and the > other Froese albums around it? Macula...is different. It sort of picks up where _Epsilon_ left off, but is darker, more psychedelic, with a a few hints of _Force Majeure_ and hardly anything that sounds like _Stratosfear_. It has another great Mellotron piece in 'qantas 611', which, IMO, is highly evocative of the land of Mordor from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings (at least, i thought so when I got _MT_ the same summer I was determined to finish LOTR once and for all.) > NP : Ages - Nights of Automatic Women (a Cyclone off-cut if ever I heard one). > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... > Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 > GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems > Simulation and Training Division > Donibristle, Fife, Scotland > ------------------------------------------------------------- Gabe Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12775 Re: Ages Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 4/9/1998 4 KB 12807 Re: Ages Gabe Yedid Thu 4/9/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Edgar - Moonlighting again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > > > > > Hey guys... I just got back from a short break in Paris, and whilst > > I was there, I swear I saw Edgar moonlighting as a cab driver. > > > > All the nordic facial hair was there, the accent was German and > > not French, and he even wore ageing rocker's leather pants. > > > > Anyone know if Ed's supposedly on vacation or something at the > > moment? :-) > > No wonder they cancelled the North American tour!!!!!!! Ed's puttin' away > for some more gear!!!!! > > E-Man Edgar has also been seen moonlighting as a 7-eleven clerk in Palm Springs, CA. Eli & I both witnessed this...but we were too scared to ask for an autograph. ;-) Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 23, 1998 10:57 am Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marek Mastalerz' >At 08:42 AM 4/8/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>Since everyone with the info seems to be keeping most of it secret for the >>time being, why don't we have some fun speculating about what might be >>released in this upcoming block of 25-36 CDs that Jerome mentioned on >>Electrobeats?) Dearest sonny Jerome in a grade school as a choirboy? Marek the Alienist Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12820 jinsuk Kim Fri 4/10/1998 2 KB 13042 Marek Mastalerz Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13047 Re: TangerineC Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13068 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13059 Marek Mastalerz Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13070 Re: SRiser3600 Fri 4/17/1998 2 KB 13074 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13110 Re: Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 13115 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 8:19 pm Subject: RE: Edgar - Moonlighting again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Edgar has also been seen moonlighting as a 7-eleven clerk in Palm >Springs, CA. Eli & I both witnessed this...but we were too scared to ask >for an autograph. ;-) I saw Ed at a Burger King in Kalamazoo. Oh, wait, that was Elvis. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 8:36 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >> Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >> >> I think this is a fascinating album - a much more melodic and rocky structure > >I came to the completely opposite conclusion--about the melodic part, anyway. >This has to be Edgar's most mindlessly minimalistic album. IMO, Ages is truly his best solo-album. I find Stuntman very thin sounding. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12757 Re: Ages Gabe Yedid Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 8:32 pm Subject: Re: My thought on DCD.NOTD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I always thought DCD were a wanna be Door's cover band. JMHO :) Ha ha....well, not when Lisa sings! But seriously, the band that I would attach the 'Doors Wannabe' label to is The Tea Party. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 8:43 pm Subject: Stuntman midi file ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' If anyone is interested in a Stuntman midi file I just created, please mail me off list. If I sent you Tangram, I'll send you this automatically. Cheers, Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12765 Re: Stuntman midi file AOutland Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 1:45 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 12:41 PM 4/8/98 -0400, some Kanuck;-) wrote: I suspect that the *perception* >that they dominate it derives from the fact that you're all a bunch of >loudmouths! ;-) That's 'DOMINATING loudmouths', thank you! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 9:07 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > p.s. So..Canadians are shy and retiring then are they? ;-) Yeah, that's it! One need only look at William Shatner, Pamela Anderson and Jim Carey to prove this..... :-) SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 9:44 pm Subject: SV: Stuntman midi file ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Kim Pedersen' Could you send me tangram and the stuntman midi file, Thanks!!!! kipeders@c... ---------- > Fra: tadream mailing list > Til: tadream@c... > Emne: Stuntman midi file > Dato: 8. april 1998 22:43 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > > If anyone is interested in a Stuntman midi file I just created, > please mail me off list. If I sent you Tangram, I'll send you > this automatically. > > Cheers, > > Lawry > > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 10:05 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > > >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > >> Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > >> > >> I think this is a fascinating album - a much more melodic and rocky > structure > > > > >I came to the completely opposite conclusion--about the melodic part, > anyway. > >This has to be Edgar's most mindlessly minimalistic album. > > IMO, Ages is truly his best solo-album. I find Stuntman very thin sounding. Looks like we're never going to agree on too much, eh Marcel? > Marcel gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 9:52 pm Subject: RE: Synergy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I was in my local Borders yesterday, and saw some albums rereleased by > Synergy. Having never heard any tunes by them I wondered what you guys > think. Are they TD -ish? I first heard Synergy on the soundtrack to 'Cosmos' (specifically, the track 'Legacy'). I guess that TD might have sounded like this if they'd been going through their 'short n' poppy Destination Berlinesque' phase back in 1976. The version of Legacy on Cosmos was an edit, and I had someone lend me the album 'Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra', from which it was drawn. It's been well over a decade since I last heard it, but I can remember that it reminded me of 1970-era TV newscast theme music. Which is to say that by 1986 it sounded quite dated to me...maybe I'd like it today! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 8, 1998 7:00 pm Subject: Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' > Really-From: Colin Knowles > p.s. Is it me or are most of the mailers to this list American? Is this a random > thing or is > it a trend of TD fans in general? Actually, the listmembers are scattered throughout the globe, we're just turning them INTO Americans. First we get you hooked on Coke, then you start eating at McDonald's, wearing Levi's, watching MTV, using words like 'Homey' and 'Dude' and interjecting expletives with a decidedly Brooklyn accent into everyday conversation. Then comes the used record store hunting for all the albums by bands with American names like Kansas or Chicago or Texas (who are actually from Scotland but have already been converted). Eventually you ask yourself the question 'What would Bill Clinton/Newt Gingrich (depending on your political preference) do in this situation?' whenever you need to make a decision. By then, we have you. But look at the benefits. At least now you won't have to wait 5 years to see reruns of 'The Wonder Years.' -B. Kirby PS - BTW, I'm being totally facetious. Kept ya guessin' though, didn't I? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12770 Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. Andrew J. Rozsa Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 1:16 am Subject: RE: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vicky Rudd >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > >> Really-From: DAVENTURA >> >> >> BTW...any left coasters..YES..Universal Amphitheatre..July 24th > >I'd love to go. If they bring back Rick, that is. I hear the new album >isn't that hot, which isn't good, considering *Talk* was such a limpy. Too >bad I didn't make the Obispo shows with the *shit* line-up! > YES will be in Atlanta (at Chastain Park) in August...not sure of the date yet, but I hope to be there! I saw them in 94... good show (IMO)!! Rick is not among the line up on the new album, but as long as Jon is there, I don't mind. (BTW: He has a great new solo album out *The Promise Ring*. It's all Irish tunes.) The new album *Open Your Eyes* is not as much of a limpy as some people are proclaiming. It has some great tunes on it, and as a whole, is better than *Talk*. I happen to enjoy it, but hey, I never said I had great taste. Then again, I enjoyed *Talk* as well. Sorry to depart from the TD topic... but I had to take up for my favorite vocal group. Victoria Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12768 Re: YES Vic Rek Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12811 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12769 Re: YES DAVENTURA Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12796 Re: YES Michael Fox Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB 12812 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12825 Re: YES Michael Fox Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12835 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12929 Re: YES Michael Fox Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12836 Re: YES Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 1:19 am Subject: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vicky Rudd OK, since it appears that I started this, my birthday is May 7, 1973. I'm Taurus. LOL Anybody else? Victoria Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12766 Re: B-day Gabe Yedid Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12767 Re: B-day OIK Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB 12782 Re: B-day Plumer, Scott Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB 12795 Re: B-day Michael Fox Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB 12783 Re: B-day DAVENTURA Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB 12817 Re: B-day Dan J. Schulte Fri 4/10/1998 4 KB 12823 Re: B-day Gabe Yedid Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12832 Re: B-day Elias Granillo, Jr. Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 2:12 am Subject: Re: horns base line ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-08 10:11:53 EDT, you write: << btw as weve been discussing the ladies on this list,didnt i read somwhere that outland was a girl. regards nick. >> Yup, that makes four of us; we're ganging up on you guys. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 2:05 am Subject: Re: American TD fans ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-08 06:18:23 EDT, you write: Colin: << p.s. Is it me or are most of the mailers to this list American? Is this a random thing or is it a trend of TD fans in general? >> Maybe it's because this nation has always been so consumer conscious, willing to spend and go into debt for toys like computers. Forget about tomorrow, we WILL have a good time today. 'Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers.' Anyway, we probably have more computers or at least access to them than other nations have. Maybe, I don't really know. Just a thought. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 2:22 am Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ROGER HELLIWELL' >I have to speak up for the Canadians here (Gabe, Vincent, Kevin, Mike, and >others)! We walk among you too. While I'm sure that Americans *do* >dominate this list in absolute numbers, I suspect that the *perception* >that they dominate it derives from the fact that you're all a bunch of >loudmouths! ;-) > > >SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator > There must be more of us Canuckle-Heads around, but we're too busy drinking beer and frying up back bacon to speak up :-) I wonder just how many borders this TD list encompasses? Roger From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 2:38 am Subject: Re: Stuntman midi file ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-08 16:50:31 EDT, you write: << If anyone is interested in a Stuntman midi file I just created, please mail me off list. If I sent you Tangram, I'll send you this automatically. Cheers, Lawry >> This is excellent; really well done. Can't believe you did something that creative so quickly. Everybody should check this out if you can. Talk to you later. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 2:54 am Subject: Re: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Vicky Rudd > > > OK, since it appears that I started this, my birthday is May 7, 1973. I'm > Taurus. LOL Anybody else? I'll bite. Sept. 8, 1975. Virgo. Also year of the rabbit. What is this kind of combination supposed to mean? > Victoria > Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon > replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... You ever seen a real moonset? Bloody ominous if you ask me. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 3:13 am Subject: Re: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: OIK Both me and Jen are virgos...my b-day is august 28th, 1979 and her's is september 21st, 1979. any takers on those dates? OIK From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 4:00 am Subject: RE: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Vicky Rudd >YES will be in Atlanta (at Chastain Park) in August...not sure of the date >yet, but I hope to be there! I saw them in 94... good show (IMO)!! Well, here we go.. A perfect time to meet. We will play 'Relayer' and 'Ricochet' before the concert! Chastain Park is fantastic! Open air medium size venue. Like I said earlier, PARTY at my house before the concert. Let me know off list when the ticket details become available. I will only miss this under two circumstances, a: I'm dead, b: I'm getting married :-) Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12811 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 4:22 am Subject: Re: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA > I will only miss this under two circumstances, a: I'm dead, b: I'm getting married :-) > > Vic Hey Vic, get B and you get A. Man, there was a lot of list action today. I had 78 pieces of mostly uninteresting mail. Boy, am I sorry I perpetuated the birthday thread. Could we try to get back to the issue at hand, Tangerine Dream? Wait, did I say that? Who do I think I am, Dave Datta? Vicky was born in '73? Geesh, I have vinyl older than that. That's all for now....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12796 Re: YES Michael Fox Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB 12812 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12825 Re: YES Michael Fox Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12835 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12929 Re: YES Michael Fox Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 5:41 am Subject: Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 07:00 PM 4/8/1998 +0000, you wrote: [.......] >MTV, using words like 'Homey' and 'Dude' and interjecting expletives >with a decidedly Brooklyn accent into everyday conversation. Then >comes the used record store hunting for all the albums by bands with >American names like Kansas or Chicago or Texas (who are actually from >Scotland but have already been converted). Eventually you ask >yourself the question 'What would Bill Clinton/Newt Gingrich >(depending on your political preference) do in this situation?' >whenever you need to make a decision. By then, we have you. You are kidding, I know, but there are folks out there who resent the dickens out of us for exporting the stuff you mention. BTW, Brian...just ONCE more (I am such a senile man)...could you post the address where I am supposed to send the money for the zine? Please.... Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 5:39 am Subject: TD CD singles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1 I have the following TD CD singles for sale as a set: Turn of the Tides CD5 Dreamtime CD5 Rockoon Single with Edgar Interview A member on this list had me hold them for him over a month and half ago but never sent payment and has not returned my emails, so I making them available again to anyone else wanting them. They go to best offer. Please email me off list if you're interested. Thanks, Alan From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 6:20 am Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard: Since so few people are on topic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky News to me .... I have her first one and it is really good. THE HIGHLANDER >Really-From: Michael A Jean > > > >Does anyone know anything about a new Lisa Gerrard album? > >For the uninitiated (Dead Can Dance vocalist) > >MJ > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 6:16 am Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > p.s. So..Canadians are shy and retiring then are they? ;-) > > Yeah, that's it! One need only look at William Shatner, Pamela Anderson > and Jim Carey to prove this..... :-) (I don't know about you, but coming from a Californian, I'd rather remember Canada for Neil Young, Rush, Bob & Doug McKenzie & The Kids in the Hall, not those twerps.) E-Man > > SEAN MONTGOMERY Human Cadaver Re-Animator From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 6:56 am Subject: Re: h of d etc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Stephen Yensen >by the way ive been meaning to ask who is from where.Im from lincoln in >england any other brits on this list? > regards > nick > I'm fairly close to you, in Nottingham, but originally from Grimsby. Cheers, Steve. NP: Ricochet- the ultimate TD album From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:54 am Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > >On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > >Guess you never read my D:Ages review some months ago. ;) > > > >He didn't speak so negatively of it in the interview Mark Prendergast >gave him for the BtS notes, but, he might be less proud of it than some >of his other releases. If I were in Edgar's shoes, I'd certainly be more >proud of _Stuntman_ than of _Ages_. Certainly _Stuntman_ has better >quality of production and composition than _Ages_, IMO. I don't own Stuntman, but have heard on a few occassions. It doesn't do too much for me a bit too 'poppy' for me. Can't comment on the production quality. Out of the Froese solos I have (Aqua, Epsilon, Kamikaze 1989, Pinnacles and now Ages), Ages comes first, closely followed by Pinnacles. Of course, that may change after a few more listens. >Macula...is different. It sort of picks up where _Epsilon_ left off, but >is darker, more psychedelic, with a a few hints of _Force Majeure_ and >hardly anything that sounds like _Stratosfear_. It has another great >Mellotron piece in 'qantas 611', which, IMO, is highly evocative of the >land of Mordor from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings (at least, i thought so >when I got _MT_ the same summer I was determined to finish LOTR once and >for all.) > What year is it from? ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12807 Re: Ages Gabe Yedid Thu 4/9/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:52 am Subject: The Persistence Of Vision ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC Anybody know how I can get my hands on this 3 Cd set? Thanks in advance. Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:30 am Subject: RE: Kent Guy and Birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > Colin > n.p. Subterranea--IQ > p.s. Is it me or are most of the mailers to this list American? Is this a random > thing or is it a trend of TD fans in general? Well, I may have a usa.net address, but I'm here in good old blighty. Liverpool to be more precise. Lawry np - Free System Project - Project 2 (from the Alpha Centauri sampler) bloody fantastic - spooky stuff Marcel. Keep it up. Can't wait for your next album. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:56 am Subject: Re: Birthdates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' So, am I the only Gemini here? 9/6/71 - or 6/9/71 if you like. Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:59 am Subject: RE: Us exports ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > You are kidding, I know, but there are folks out there who resent the > dickens out of us for exporting the stuff you mention. Not me... I couldn't live without my Diet Coke (right Dell? :-) ) Or McDonalds for that matter. Lawry ps - sorry Daventura... I do try to get the odd TD one in now and again :-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:55 am Subject: RE: Stuntman Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > This is excellent; really well done. Can't believe you did something that > creative so quickly. Everybody should check this out if you can. Talk to you > later. 8-) Dell Well, cheers Dell, but I think you'll find Ed created it nearly twenty years ago. He did the hard part, I just played it into my computer. Not like I wrote it from scratch eh? :-) Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 9:53 am Subject: Re: np Ricochet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tadreamlist > Really-From: Stephen Yensen > > NP: Ricochet- the ultimate TD album Finally there´s someone else who prefers Ricochet to Rubycon. :-D Stephen, did you already got Redshift´s stonking 'Ether' CD ? It comes with tracks I´ve been waiting for ages, the track 'Ether' fits most perfectly to Ricochet Part II (all IMO, of course). Ask list member Ash 'Mr. Champagne Lake' for a copy, a must for all TD fans that love the Baumann aera. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 12:17 pm Subject: RE: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' Me: April 18, 1967. Nine days and counting! So, what's everyone getting me? I'd really like a canoe. . . Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12795 Re: B-day Michael Fox Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 12:45 pm Subject: Re: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Scott writes: Me: April 18, 1967. Nine days and counting! So, what's everyone getting me? I'd really like a canoe. . . Wow, just 102 years and 2 days after Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. I wonder if you're the reincarnation of....aww forget it....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 12:59 pm Subject: Anyone heard of TD's Krankenschwester soundtrack? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes Gema Records (UK) spring 95 catalogue lists the Krankenschwester soundtrack in its TD section. Anyone heard of this TD soundtrack? I presume it's rare because subsequent catalogues don't list it anymore. Unfortunately I didn't order it then... I'm on this list for almost 2 years now, and as far as I remember I've never seen this title mentioned here. Is this soundtrack widely known under a different name, or is it another 'The Keep LP' case? ;-) Well, at least I have that catalogue! Antonio Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12792 Re: Anyone heard of TD's Krankenschwester soundtr Francisco Salgado C. Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12809 Re: Anyone heard of TD's Krankenschwester soundtr stephan bischoff Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12821 Re: Anyone heard of TD's Krankenschwester soundtr Antonio Nunes Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 2:23 pm Subject: edgar moonlighting ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 lawry wrote she saw edgar moonlighting as a cab driver in paris my answer is she cant have done, hes been masquerading as my brother in law for the past couple of years hehehe. btw someone asked when macula transfer was from.Its from 75 & 76 and is a great album and believe it or not the album was dedicated to the ghost of chopin. spooky Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12787 Re: edgar moonlighting DAVENTURA Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 2:10 pm Subject: Birthday Combinations & Permutations; Canucks; and local TD sources ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Steve Hinksman' Hi, Just thought I'd de-lurk for a bit. On the birthday-coincidence topic, in a group of 31 people, there is a 27% chance that no two people will have the same birthdays, i.e., there is a 73% chance that at least two folks share the same birthday. (For any two people to _not_ share birthdays, the chance is 364/365, but for the next person to come along, the chance is (363/365)*(364/365), and so on, until you're at (335/365)*(336*365)*...*(364/365) ). Boring math, but it shows that on tadream, there could be plenty of folks with the same B-day. While I look forward to whatever Edgar & Jerome release this/next year, I suspect we won't see the numbers being bounced around: 25 or so CDs. We'll probably get Ambient Monkeys, The Keep, Time Square, and something like the re-released Quinoa. Any back catalog stuff means little to me - I've got the Private Music stuff, so a re-release will not make me buy it again. E & J probably hope for a total of 25 CDs over the next few years, but unless the 'Der Meteor' series (whatever happen to that?) is included, I'd guess at maybe 4 this year, and 4 next year. I hope I'm wrong, though, and we see 10 or more 'new' releases, and maybe a few live concerts from the yester-years. If anything is released, has anyone found a domestic (Canadian) source for TD that's reliable and actually gets the TDI stuff? Otherwise I'll have to rely on stuff direct from TDI, I guess. And I'm a Canadian, eh, so leave my beer & back-bacon alone! And we play hockey on Bay Street after having a few brewskies! (Folks who have seen the Labatts Blue ads know what I mean :^) All the best, eh! Steve From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 3:15 pm Subject: Re: edgar moonlighting ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA NAdams43 writes: > lawry wrote she saw Edgar.... She? What the hell, I thought I was talking to a guy all this time....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 3:32 pm Subject: Disc for trade or sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jupe Hi dreamers, I have for trade or sale : TANGERINE DREAM ''''''''''''''''' * CD TURN OF THE TIDES 1994 VCD-528 PDI 80.3418 * CD TYRANNY OF BEAUTY 1995 NUEVOS MEDIOS 35 672 CD * CD THE DREAM MIXES 1995 VIRGIN 7243 8 40916 2 0 * CD LIVE MILES 1988 CASTLE ESM CD 368 GAS 00000368ESM ACO * 2CD ZEIT 1972 RELATIVITY 88561-8070-2 * CD GREEN DESERT 1973 JIVE ELECTRO C TANG 1 * 5CD THE DREAM ROOTS COLLECTION 1996 CASTLE ESFCD420-GAS 0000420ESF ACO 5cd Set approx 5 hours of Music. Including 4 track CD of previously unreleased material. Visit my trade page on line . http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/trade.htm Send offers via email to jupe@c... if you're interested. Jupe -- ************************************************************* * La PAGINA de TANGERINE DREAM de JUPE * http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/home.htm mailto:jupe@c... * New SWAP List 3.0 , write me !!!!! * Nueva Lista de CAMBIO 3.0 , escribeme !!!!! * http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/trade.htm mailto:jupe@c... * PARA PARTICIPAR EN LA LISTA EN CASTELLANO TDFANS ESCRIBIR * A mailto:jupe@c... DREAM ON !!!!!!!!!!!! ************************************************************* From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 4:16 pm Subject: Re: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > >Me: April 18, 1967. Nine days and counting! So, what's everyone getting >me? I'd really like a canoe. . . > >Scott > Hey Scott, What a surprise! I was also born on April 18, but in 1968!! And last year I celebrated my birthday at the Neu-Isenburg concert :-) Greetings, Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 6:59 am Subject: Re: horns of doom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: szatmari pal Hello guys, I have been silent for the last few days but I have been following the list with great amusement. I could not have topped your jokes so I just laughed my head off at my regular morning readings of the list. My greetings to all the newest members!!! (It was less than a month ago that I received a warm welcome on this very same list) One question (well, actually two): (attn: Nick, Dave & Morgan) What is Horns of doom and what does the 13/10/80 cdr contain? Thanks, Paul P.S. I am anxious to find out whether Jen has finally been convinced to obtain a multi-function penis... :o) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 6:59 am Subject: Sound & vision ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: szatmari pal Hello again, A new topic has just occured to me: Would you like to share your personal TD video clip? I mean: listening to a particular track do you see a certain color, shape, scene, happenings etc? For example Exit is now playing and every time I listen to it, I feel as if I were standing outside a bar somewhere on another planet. It is very dark but shreds of red light are shining down from above in the rain. Aliens are coming and going but I am gazing into the distance filled with hopes of leaving this dark place soon. Strange? Maybe. But somebody may have an even more obscure vision about it. I have earlier said that I am against influencing anyone with subjective perceptions but I do not want an overall interpretation of a composition, only interesting bits. So put pen to paper (or more precisely mouse to pad) and let us know your version of a dream. TDI might use one of our visions in a video... Best regards, Paul Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13377 Re: Sound & vision AOutland Sun 4/26/1998 3 KB 13412 Re: Sound & vision Greg Heil Wed 4/29/1998 3 KB 13465 Re: Sound & vision AOutland Thu 4/30/1998 3 KB 13468 Re: Sound & vision Greg Heil Thu 4/30/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 5:05 pm Subject: Re: Anyone heard of TD's Krankenschwester soundtrack? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: Antonio Nunes > > Gema Records (UK) spring 95 catalogue lists the Krankenschwester > soundtrack in its TD section. Anyone heard of this TD soundtrack? > I presume it's rare because subsequent catalogues don't list it anymore. > Unfortunately I didn't order it then... Krankenschwester in german means nurse so maybe is 'Deadly Care'? Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 4:13 pm Subject: Re: Kent guy and Birthdates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' > Actually, the listmembers are scattered throughout the globe, we're > just turning them INTO Americans. First we get you hooked on Coke, > then you start eating at McDonald's, wearing Levi's, watching > MTV, using words like 'Homey' and 'Dude' and interjecting expletives > with a decidedly Brooklyn accent into everyday conversation. As you all know, I'm trying with all my heart to become 'American' but, please, let me eat my beloved fish, shrimps and lobsters together with a fine white Albariño wine. I might, even, drink Coke or Pepsi but don't force me to eat a big Mac. Anyway, I do want to try those strange words, but since I don't know the exact meaning, I never got to use them right. ANd now, to become a bit in topic, How did you manage to Americanize Tangerine Dream ? -- Frank Iscoe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 6:13 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 19:22 199804.08 -0700, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: 'ROGER HELLIWELL' >I wonder just how many borders this TD list encompasses? I'm inclined to believe that California qualifies as crossing a border. Damn weirdos went and invented Levi's, the Personal Computer, BBQ Chicken Pizza, and the Burning Man Festival! (ob TD) Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12806 Re: Nationalities Paul Nagle Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 1:26 pm Subject: RE: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 08:17 AM 4/9/98 -0400, Scott wrote: >Me: April 18, 1967. Nine days and counting! So, what's everyone getting >me? I'd really like a canoe. . . Can you canoe? Oar would you like something else? Afloat? ROF (rowing on floor) Mike (sorry Daventura, I'll stop!) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 1:15 pm Subject: Re: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 12:22 AM 4/9/98 EDT, you wrote: Vicky was >born in '73? Geesh, I have vinyl older than that. That's all for now....David Hey David! Keep it up and Dr. Rosza, Craig Shipley, and myself will beat you to death with our AARP cards!;-) Mike Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12812 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12825 Re: YES Michael Fox Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12835 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12929 Re: YES Michael Fox Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 7:54 pm Subject: Andy Pickford ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Glenn Reinicke I've seen Andy Pickford's name thrown around on this list and I've checked out his web site. If there are any fans out there of this guy, let me know what his music is like and what to start with. You can email me directly. Also, does anyone know if there's a copy of Quinoa I can get my hands on? (I'm serious . . . quit laughing!). Glenn Reinicke glennr@f... American fan since '77 And yes, we build those ugly tract homes that look alike . . . another California invention. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12798 Re: Andy Pickford DAVENTURA Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB 12802 Re: Andy Pickford Glenn Reinicke Thu 4/9/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:12 pm Subject: Re: Andy Pickford ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA > Glenn Reinicke > glennr@f... > > American fan since '77 > And yes, we build those ugly tract homes that look alike ... > another California invention. Don't forget the ugly apartment buildings, too....David N.P. EO Disc 3...Dolphin Dance...On repeat, over and over From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:24 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > >Looks like we're never going to agree on too much, eh Marcel? I agree :-) But I think it is nice to see people have a different taste. (which is definitely not a bad taste, don't get me wrong) It may look like when you say A I will say B (like Ages) but thats really not it. I really like Ages. I'm sure we agree on many things, Gabe. Time will tell. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 6:30 pm Subject: Re: Birthdays ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' >On the birthday-coincidence topic, in a group of 31 people, there >is a 27% chance that no two people will have the same birthdays, >i.e., there is a 73% chance that at least two folks share the same >birthday. (For any two people to _not_ share birthdays, the chance >is 364/365, but for the next person to come along, the chance is >(363/365)*(364/365), and so on, until you're at >(335/365)*(336*365)*...*(364/365) ). Boring math, but it shows >that on tadream, there could be plenty of folks with the same >B-day Yes, this is a good and valid proof, although all the rigorous details do not figure - but it will be boring doing maths in a serious music mailing list, won't it? (Old nightmares for someones, eh?). Note that I didn't understand the first 'proof' someone tried to give recently. And everyone may also understand that if there is on our list more than 400 people, then there is more than 365 (or 366) people and thus it is CERTAIN than at least two people share the same B-Day! Cheers, Fred Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12803 Re: Birthdays Marcel Engels Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:29 pm Subject: Typo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Last post should have read: N.P. EO..Disc 3..Dolphin Smile..Repeat, over and over From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 8:41 pm Subject: RE: Andy Pickford ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Glenn Reinicke Nope, that's the William Lyon company. Shame on them. > > Glenn Reinicke > > glennr@f... > > > > American fan since '77 > > And yes, we build those ugly tract homes that look alike ... > > another California invention. > > Don't forget the ugly apartment buildings, too....David > > N.P. EO Disc 3...Dolphin Dance...On repeat, over and over From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 9:08 pm Subject: Re: Birthdays ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>On the birthday-coincidence topic, in a group of 31 people, there >>is a 27% chance that no two people will have the same birthdays, >>i.e., there is a 73% chance that at least two folks share the same >>birthday. (For any two people to _not_ share birthdays, the chance >>is 364/365, but for the next person to come along, the chance is >>(363/365)*(364/365), and so on, until you're at >>(335/365)*(336*365)*...*(364/365) ). Boring math, but it shows blah blah blah............ Is this a music-list or what?!? Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... (i find very very few TD/music-related messages these days) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 9:20 pm Subject: Completely Useless Message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Just wanted to tell you all that I'm currently listening to Encore. I'd forgotten how much Coldwater Canyon kicks ass. If you haven't heard this for a while, crack it open, crank your amp up to 11, annoy the hell out of your neighbours/children/pets and get grooving to some of the best TD around! :-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12808 Re: Completely Useless Message Gabe Yedid Thu 4/9/1998 3 KB 12815 Re: Completely Useless Message Greg Heil Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 5:25 am Subject: Re: NEW TD RELEASES and a rant! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: dan.cor@v... Re: >Since everyone with the info seems to be keeping most of it secret for the >time being, why don't we have some fun speculating about what might be >released in this upcoming block of 25-36 CDs that Jerome mentioned on >Electrobeats? >MJ Call me an old cynic but I really don't believe this for a moment. OK, I only joined the list recently and you may have discussed this already, but look how long it has taken them to NOT have The Keep/DM2/AM generally available, and they think they can get 'even' 25 CD's out in a year? Who is going to buy them even if they could do this, certainly not me. OK, in a fantasy world they will put out a Schulze-type 10 box set, but the reason most of this material has not seen the light of day before is that it is not up to scratch, and all the digital fixing cannot improve on a bum track! I read about their plans to flood the CD market in the risible 'Focus on the Facts' I laughed so loudly that I nearly cracked my monitor! (But I suppose you've all done this subject to death before I came along as well. Ho hum.) Daniel (male, capricorn dates 6401162230, married 1 kid, grey hair, not enough money for a DCD, let alone 26) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12816 Infinite Horizons and Macula Transfer Brian E. Kirby Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 13406 Re: Macula Transfer Brian E. Kirby Wed 4/29/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 4:36 am Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: paul@s... (Paul Nagle) On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:13:11 -0700, tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) wrote: >'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our >studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the >road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' I've seen this little message a lot and it occurs to me that any equipment that has survived three such falls will probably die horribly the next time you as much as breathe on it! I can only guess that by 'functioning properly' in the gigging sense that the maestro means 'the lights still work'..... And yes, of course, I worship the ground Edgar has walked on but I don't necessarily believe every quote literally.... ;-) Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------ www.softroom.demon.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 9:57 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > > >Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > I don't own Stuntman, but have heard on a few occassions. It doesn't do too > much for me a bit too 'poppy' for me. Can't comment on the production quality. > Out of the Froese solos I have (Aqua, Epsilon, Kamikaze 1989, Pinnacles and now > Ages), Ages comes first, closely followed by Pinnacles. > > Of course, that may change after a few more listens. It may just be that since I heard _Stuntman_ first, I expected _Ages_ to be of the same standard. But I think I've been through each one enough times now that I have decided that, as far as I am concerned, the overall quality of _Stuntman_ is quite superior to that of _Ages_. > >Macula...is different. It sort of picks up where _Epsilon_ left off, but > >is darker, more psychedelic, with a a few hints of _Force Majeure_ and > >hardly anything that sounds like _Stratosfear_. It has another great > >Mellotron piece in 'qantas 611', which, IMO, is highly evocative of the > >land of Mordor from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings (at least, i thought so > >when I got _MT_ the same summer I was determined to finish LOTR once and > >for all.) > > > > What year is it from? I'm pretty sure it's 1976. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Apr 9, 1998 10:00 pm Subject: Re: Completely Useless Message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > > Just wanted to tell you all that I'm currently listening to > Encore. I'd forgotten how much Coldwater Canyon > kicks ass. If you haven't heard this for a while, crack it > open, crank your amp up to 11, annoy the hell out of > your neighbours/children/pets and get grooving to > some of the best TD around! :-) That it will do. It annoys the hell out of me. I just think it's one of TD's most 'robotic', tick-tocky, time-beating pieces; I've just never seen what so many other people seem to hear in it. Then again, I can also say I truly do NOT enjoy _Logos_, either. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 11:35 pm Subject: Re: Anyone heard of TD's Krankenschwester soundtrack? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: stephan bischoff Hi! The German TV title was 'Krankenschwester des Todes' (Nurse of death) so I assume it's only 'Deadly Care' Stephan >I'm on this list for almost 2 years now, and as far as I remember I've >never seen this title mentioned here. Is this soundtrack widely known >under a different name, or is it another 'The Keep LP' case? ;-) Well, >at least I have that catalogue! _____ __________________________________________________________ / || \ |E-mail|| Stephan.Bischoff@H... | \_____||____________________________________________________ | / || | | Home ||http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/5464/index.html | \_____||__________________________________________________________/ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Well, it seems to me that it would be really nice if we got some of the following soundtracks: o RED NIGHTS \ o RED HEAT \ o FORBIDDEN / all four of these are supposedly among the 25 already o THE KEEP / o THE MAN INSIDE (since it went out of print so quickly) o STREETHAWK (c'mon, if the KEEP rights could be ironed out, this shouldn't be any harder) o RAINBOW DRIVE o THE SWITCH I just hope to God that a lot of the 25 CDs-worth of stuff is not on par with ZEIT, DESTINATION BERLIN, OPTICAL RACE, 'House of the Rising Sun,' or . . . (gag) . . . 'Lost Tale.' -- Steven Feldman - - - - - - - - - - - - Leo, August 1958. Sorry, no date. I've heard too much bad stuff from astrologers about my chart and don't want to get another dose of it here. Suffice to say, I'm about as much a Leo as Leos get. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't give a damn on what the journalists are saying. If some dog pees at a tree, the tree won't fall down!' -- Klaus Kinski Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12824 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Gabe Yedid Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12833 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Elias Granillo, Jr. Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12840 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Gabe Yedid Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12852 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 4/12/1998 3 KB 12859 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Hermes Guzman Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB 12860 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Elias Granillo, Jr. Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB 12872 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Jim Moore Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB 12866 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Plumer, Scott Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 12:30 am Subject: RE: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 12:00 AM 4/9/1998 -0400, Vic wrote: [......] >'Ricochet' before the concert! Chastain Park is fantastic! Open air medium >size venue. Like I said earlier, PARTY at my house before the concert. Let You sure it's still there. :-)) Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 12:41 am Subject: Re: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 01:15 PM 4/9/1998, Dr. Fox wrote: >Really-From: Michael Fox > > >At 12:22 AM 4/9/98 EDT, you wrote: > Vicky was >>born in '73? Geesh, I have vinyl older than that. That's all for >now....David > >Hey David! Keep it up and Dr. Rosza, Craig Shipley, and myself will beat >you to death with our AARP cards!;-) Don't you believe her, David. Dr. Fox is a woman and she is 29 years old. Her real name is Michelle. Mike is only an affectation that she has assumed ever since she has been stalked. She made the mistake of revealing that she had an original 'The Keep' LP. Now she knows better than to brag. Or does she? Andrew Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12825 Re: YES Michael Fox Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12835 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12929 Re: YES Michael Fox Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 4:14 am Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka I have all the Froese solo albums on vinyl and on CD, except for Ages, which I have neither seen nor heard. Recent discussion on this list has led me to believe it was a double album. Is this correct? The CD, however, does not include all the tracks from the album, if I understand correctly? Macula Transfer is, in my opinion, one of the weaker albums--it just sounds like the tracks are generally outtakes or second-rate material, which is not to say that it isn't good....it just isn't of the best quality. I agree with the comments about Stuntman being too pop-oriented. Although I like the album, it still sounds a little bit too sickly sweet, a little trite, in its melodies. Overall I think the best Froese album is Epsilon In Malaysian Pale. This album far far outdoes the others, I think. John Majka flossbac@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 4:34 am Subject: Greetings from Florida! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Roger Smith' Some intro-put from this long-time lurker: Poland, and of course, Thief set me on this tangerine trail that accompanies my daily doings for some time now. This boy is among the elder fans (49 years old) who follows all of Tangerine Dream's output, with a preference for that freework of the late 1970s and those gothic compositions of the Schmoelling era. I work as the underwater archaeologist for the State of Florida, which, accompanied by occasional Underwater Sunlight, allows me to visit a dimension well suited to the appreciation of electronic music. We have been investigating an early Spanish galleon at the bottom of Pensacola Bay, which for us is very cool. You can join us on a web-tour of the site, that is being updated on a regular basis: http://www.dos.state.fl.us/dhr/bar/ep I was raised listening to the classical music of European composers; a natural introduction to the post-war experimentation that extended this tradition alongside but invisible with the pop-world of the Stones and Beatles (which we all listened to). For me, the 'Berlin School' is a continuation of an aural cognition of compositions that makes sense to a boy that came out of the acid acuteness of the sixties (Pink Floyd notwhithstanding). Joining today's ranks of the international Tadream clan, I've met many internet friends (Spect Le, Marcel, Lars, Vic, Tom W., etc.) who've generously turned me on to the wider world of this unique band and shared their enthusiasm for this unsung music with open arms. For those who want to become aquainted with the lyrical legacy of Tangerine Dream, I'd recommend obtaining the 1995 Tangents 5CD box set. Nitpicking aside, this is the composer's (Froese) taste of the epitome of the essence of this music. Earlier experimentional music is represented in another 2CD set called Book of Dreams, which I like very much. Check out the videos of these films: The Keep, and the Soldier, for classic TD gothic Logos music Near Dark, and Miracle Mile, for wonderful musical scores Firestarter, and Heartbreakers, for more Forbidden, also. There are several new composers who follow this musical tradition; their products are very welcome,a nd are worth your support. I've been honored by an invitation to Portugal to present our findings on the 16th-century Spanish shipwreck in Pensacola at a roundtable in conjunction with the Expo'98 world's fair at Lisbon in September of this year. My wife and I will be traveling to Portugal, Northern Spain, France, Southern England, and Northern Ireland during the month of September. We'd like to meet with those European fans of Tangerine Dream to share comraderie and similar musical adventures. Roger C. Smith, Ph.D. State Underwater Archaeologist Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0250 U.S.A. now playing: Digital Times (1982) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 5:15 am Subject: Re: Completely Useless Message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > > Just wanted to tell you all that I'm currently listening to > Encore. I'd forgotten how much Coldwater Canyon > kicks ass. If you haven't heard this for a while, crack it > open, crank your amp up to 11, annoy the hell out of > your neighbours/children/pets and get grooving to > some of the best TD around! :-) > > You bet! I think I'm liking the Baumann era more and more over any other era. Truly dynamic, fresh, and looong! 'Encore' has had the longest staying power of any album I own.. I usually have the track you mentioned on repeat.. ending and starting with crowd noise.. it never gets boring.. which is something I don't understand.. In fact, I think TD had it's most promiseing pinacle here right before Baumann left. Oddly enough, my favorite TD albums are 'Poland' 'Encore' and 'Oasis' but 'Encore' is really the 'dreaming' of the three. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 1:40 am Subject: Infinite Horizons and Macula Transfer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' Here's an update for those of you who may have noticed that it is no longer March and that your copy of Infinite Horizons has not yet arrived (for those of you who didn't notice, ignore this message). The original shipping date had delays for the artwork already included, so of course the artwork ran into more problems than usual. At this point we expect to start shipping them by the end of the month. If that situation changes, I'll be certain to let everybody know. As always, you can simply EMail me with further questions. While I'm on the topic of CDs, I'd also like to announce that Horizon Music will have copies of Macula Transfer to order for both subscribers and non-subscribers. The price before shipping for subscribers is $15, and non-subscribers $18. Those of you who need shipping or address information should contact me off-list. These discs should be ready for shipment within 4-6 weeks. We know return you to your regularly scheduled list discussion. -B. Kirby PS - I'm out of town until Sunday night, so replying before then will be difficult (as you might imagine). Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13406 Re: Macula Transfer Brian E. Kirby Wed 4/29/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 5:47 am Subject: Re: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: Vicky Rudd > > > > > > OK, since it appears that I started this, my birthday is May 7, 1973. I'm > > Taurus. LOL Anybody else? > > I'll bite. > Sept. 8, 1975. Virgo. Also year of the rabbit. > What is this kind of combination supposed to mean? > > > > Victoria > > Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon > > replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... > > You ever seen a real moonset? Bloody ominous if you ask me. > > Gabe Hmm, I guess it's time to let everyone know I'm older than I act, heh heh. Jan, 28, 1969 (The space shuttle blew up on my B-day! Cool!). I don't dig that astrological crap, I'm a non-denominational Christian...who'd have guessed? Heh heh. Hey Gabe...are you british? You keep saying bloody..I thought you were an american. You should be saying 'dude' & soforth. Well, end the confusion, dude! Heh heh. Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12823 Re: B-day Gabe Yedid Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 8:35 am Subject: Tape Tree 1 & 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Wouter Bessels Hi Tadreamers, Today, I got the tapes from Hilmar, who is the digital branch of the trees 1 & 2. That means that I can go on dubbing now for my leaves. I expect to send off all tapes to the leaves probably by the end of next week. How's the trees 1 & 2 going so far in the US ?? I propose starting the D:LIVE discussions in the first week of May, when everybody will have their tapes (hopefully !!) and everybody could have an opportunity about the material (there's some very weird stuff, folks !!!). How about this, US branches ?? Lars and Tom, what do you think of it ?? Cheers, Wouter np. White-Out Conditions - Bel Canto (one of the best Norwegian records ever made) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12831 Re: Tape Tree 1 & 2 TWeibre361 Fri 4/10/1998 3 KB 12850 Re: Tape Tree 1 & 2 AOutland Sun 4/12/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 10:22 am Subject: RE: Edgar moonlighting again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Nicola Adams wrote ( :-) ) > lawry wrote she saw edgar moonlighting as a cab driver in paris my answer is > she cant have done, hes been masquerading as my brother in law for the past > couple of years hehehe. Hmmm..... Lawrence Edward Simm Esquire. (just to be sure) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 11:53 am Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jinsuk Kim unsubscribe tadream-digest jindor@m... ------------------ jinsuk Kim jindor@m... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 2:46 pm Subject: Re: Anyone heard of TD's Krankenschwester soundtrack? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes 'Francisco Salgado C.' wrote: > Krankenschwester in german means nurse so maybe is 'Deadly Care'? Yes possibly, but the same catalogue also lists 'Deadly Care'. Perhaps 'Krankenschwester' is a german edition and 'Deadly Care' is the Silva Screen release. Antonio np: Deadly Care From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 11:14 am Subject: Nice photos of boots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello TaDreamers, I've just found out that 'Danger Live' boots took his front cover from the back of the LP 'Atem'. Neither Relativity edition, nor SBM remaster version show this picture. Hope this is 'useless, indispensable' Fred np : track#18 from 'Pacific Blue' ; wouldn't guess it's CF. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 4:41 pm Subject: Re: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > > > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > > You ever seen a real moonset? Bloody ominous if you ask me. > > > > Gabe > > Christian...who'd have guessed? Heh heh. Hey Gabe...are you british? You > keep saying bloody..I thought you were an american. You should be saying > 'dude' & soforth. Well, end the confusion, dude! Heh heh. No, I'm Canadian born and bred. That said, the British influence in my English probably does tend to be a bit stronger than most Yanks might expect. Perhaps I've watched too much Python and Red Dwarf? > Dano Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 4:44 pm Subject: Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > o STREETHAWK (c'mon, if the KEEP rights could be ironed out, this > shouldn't be any harder) So we can get an album of music that never appeared in the series? ;) > o RAINBOW DRIVE I saw this *years* ago on HBO...don't at all remember the music... Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 11:43 am Subject: Re: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 07:41 PM 4/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >Don't you believe her, David. Dr. Fox is a woman and she is 29 years old. >Her real name is Michelle. Mike is only an affectation that she has assumed >ever since she has been stalked. She made the mistake of revealing that she >had an original 'The Keep' LP. Now she knows better than to brag. Or does she? I couldn't help but notice you failed to mention the child I bore for you some years ago in Germany when I was a young innocent Fraulein. Have you heard from 'Jerry', as we called him, recently? I hear he is some kind of musician. 'Michy' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12835 Re: YES Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12929 Re: YES Michael Fox Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 5:36 pm Subject: Re: Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: John Majka > > I have all the Froese solo albums on vinyl and on CD, except for Ages, which > I have neither seen nor heard. Recent discussion on this list has led me to > believe it was a double album. Is this correct? Yes. The CD, however, does not > include all the tracks from the album, if I understand correctly? Yes. One track is missing. C.B. Vincent Goudreault autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957 online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 15192 Ages Ken Beal Thu 7/2/1998 2 KB 15194 Re: Ages RBrown4856@a... Thu 7/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 7:20 pm Subject: B'days, midi, EM and Edgar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley) Hey all, Up from the depths of lurking. Being a 4/17/62 dude, I came to think that the reason I meet so many other spring babies, is that there are more of us. I've never seen the statistics, but the rest of the creatures on earth seem to like spring for babies. Thank for the midi files Lawry, I'm saving my pennies for the stuff to play them. I really want to understand the sequences that make me feel like I'm going somewhere. Man, I love that feeling! Trains, horses, and clocks. I've got logostype, Pickford, Redshift on the way, so soon I'll see whether you all are full of shit or not ;-) Some of you people have been getting ahold Edgars Ages CD. Where should I look for it? I met the Norse God once at a Joe Satriani concert. Had to corner him, I told him how much I've enjoyed his music and how well its integrated with my life. He said 'Yah Joe's very gud!'. Kind of reminded me of when playing soccer and your doing well. Someone trys to talk about how good your doing before the game is over, and you blow them off for your games sake. I always thought Canada was good for the Pinery and Bradors (sp?) Cheers mates nw (now waiting) for some new music, HURRY! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 8:03 pm Subject: RE: NOTD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS AND SO ON, AND SO ON, AND SO ON, AND SO ON....... In the word's of the monkey man in Dr. Moureau..... 'FATHER!' Christopher ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, April 10, 1998 7:54 AM To: tadream@c... Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jinsuk Kim unsubscribe tadream-digest jindor@m... ------------------ jinsuk Kim jindor@m... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 9:48 pm Subject: Re: np Rubycon and other stuff ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Steve Yensen' Happy Easter to all of you! >Finally there´s someone else who prefers Ricochet to Rubycon. :-D > >Stephen, did you already got Redshift´s stonking 'Ether' CD ? >It comes with tracks I´ve been waiting for ages, the track 'Ether' >fits most perfectly to Ricochet Part II (all IMO, of course). I've never heard any Redshift, Pickford or whatever, so I will start looking for these... Ricochet ousted Rubycon from my ultimate favourite spot as soon as I first heard it. The sure sign that a piece of music touches me to the heart is when I get serious goose bumps, that and a feeling of my hair standing on end, almost like a very heavy static charge. Never heard Ricochet until July last year. A colleague of mine was clearing out his attic. Knowing my love for obscure music (his opinion), he gave me a Ricochet vinyl. Other gems included Yes, Ange, Curved Air, Jefferson Airplane, Gryphon, Fairport Convention, Wakeman, Vangelis... all on vinyl.. >Just wanted to tell you all that I'm currently listening to >Encore. I'd forgotten how much Coldwater Canyon >kicks ass. Another excellent album IMO, but it's funny how I didn't notice it when it first came out. It was the TD list that got me going on this. Thanks Craig. My ultimate TD concerts were Bradford 1974, and Nottingham 1976 (those who have the fan tape can probably hear coughing in the background - sorry, but that was me!) Yes, I'm definitely pro Baumann era, for me the glory years ended when Peter left, and total disillusionment set in when Chris departed. I believe that his use of the sequencer made TD a force to be reckoned with. Having said that, I do like Oasis and TimeSquare, which I bought at the Nottingham 1997 concert. My impression of the concert? Goose bumps and static! >So put pen to paper (or more precisely mouse to pad) and let >us know your version of a dream. Do you mean dream or hallucination? Or does it really matter? Bye for now. Steve. HOME: WORK: syensen@i... Stephen.Yensen@s... Siemens GEC Communication Systems Ltd, 1 Honingham Close, Technology Drive, Arnold, Beeston, Nottingham NG5 6SG, Nottingham NG9 1LA, United Kingdom. United Kingdom. +44 (0)115 953 7219 +44 (0)115 943 2523 Current top five: Ricochet, Rubycon, Encore, Phaedra, Epsilon (in that order) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 9:57 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-09 03:21:38 EDT, you write: << (I don't know about you, but coming from a Californian, I'd rather remember Canada for Neil Young, Rush, Bob & Doug McKenzie & The Kids in the Hall, not those twerps.) >> canada = NASH THE SLASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn he was good.... tom w np: nash the slash - palladium, nyc 1981 (wrapped in gauze and in chains) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 10:31 pm Subject: Re: Tape Tree 1 & 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-10 04:42:50 EDT, you write: << How's the trees 1 & 2 going so far in the US ?? blossoming.... I propose starting the D:LIVE discussions in the first week of May, when everybody will have their tapes (hopefully !!) and everybody could have an opportunity about the material (there's some very weird stuff, folks !!!). yowzaa.... How about this, US branches ?? Lars and Tom, what do you think of it ?? >> i cant think right now...its a long weekend, im starting my third beer, i just heard that ambiant otaku (fax, bfd for all u naysayers) is gonna be re-issued in a limited 300 run, and im listening to live orb...but, whatever u decide is fine by me.... tom w np: orb - denver 97 (space is the place) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 9:51 pm Subject: Re: B-day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > Perhaps I've watched too much Python and Red Dwarf? Python's Life of Brian and ...Holy Grail are like ice-cold Corona: good to the last drop and when you're done, you still want more!!!!!!!! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Apr 10, 1998 9:53 pm Subject: Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > > o RAINBOW DRIVE > I saw this *years* ago on HBO...don't at all remember the music... This would make a killer release! I loved the music while watching this flick. You can rent it, too. E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12840 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Gabe Yedid Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 3:00 am Subject: Surface 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: thesmitter@j... (Larry E Smith) Is Surface 10 the group that did their version of Phaedra on the TD tribute cd? Is their cd any good? Comments? Thanks, Larry _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12842 Re: Surface 10 Hermes Guzman Sat 4/11/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 4:38 am Subject: Re: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 11:43 AM 4/10/1998, Foxy Lady wrote: > >>Don't you believe her, David. Dr. Fox is a woman and she is 29 years old. >>Her real name is Michelle. Mike is only an affectation that she has assumed >>ever since she has been stalked. She made the mistake of revealing that she >>had an original 'The Keep' LP. Now she knows better than to brag. Or does >she? > >I couldn't help but notice you failed to mention the child I bore for you >some years ago in Germany when I was a young innocent Fraulein. Have you >heard from 'Jerry', as we called him, recently? I hear he is some kind of >musician. > Please, Michy....it is not sightly to air our linen in public. Especially not now when the fruit of our love is about to drive everyone to the poor-house with his mass of new old releases. BTW, don't you think it is about time you returned all the original LPs and CDs of 'L'Affair Walraff?' I know we had our differences, but you can keep one of each. The rest are overdue. And 'The Keep' was mine, lest you, conveniently, forget it. Sheeesh...I sure could use Steven's $500 right now. Andreas Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12929 Re: YES Michael Fox Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 3:47 am Subject: Re: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > At 11:43 AM 4/10/1998, Foxy Lady wrote: > > > >I couldn't help but notice you failed to mention the child I bore for you > >some years ago in Germany when I was a young innocent Fraulein. Have you > >heard from 'Jerry', as we called him, recently? I hear he is some kind of > >musician. > > > > Please, Michy....it is not sightly to air our linen in public. Especially > not now when the fruit of our love is about to drive everyone to the > poor-house with his mass of new old releases. Heeeee-larious!!!!!! :-) :-) E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 9:40 am Subject: D:List Addendum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' As we are still holding off for a short while before starting the D:Live discussions, I thought I'd open up the whole of the D:List Addendum for another week or two to keep us going. So, for the new people or for the ones that missed the boat last time round, here's your chance to spark up some 'on topic' discussions. Anyone remember what they are :-) The topics covered were Oasis 1997 World Tour CD (Das Madchaen Auf Der Treppe) Tournado Der Meteor (Jim & Pablo) Ambient Monkeys TimeSquare: Dream Mixes II If you have comments/thoughts/reviews of any of these albums, please send them to the list, we'd like to hear them. Don't be shy. Happy typing, Lawry Oh, PS... please make your subject line read D:Oasis D:World Tour CD D:Tournado D:Der Meteor D:Ambient Monkeys D:TImeSquare as required. Thanks. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 5:53 pm Subject: Re: Encore ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: dan.cor@v... > Really-From: 'Steve Yensen' > > Happy Easter to all of you! > > >Finally there´s someone else who prefers Ricochet to Rubycon. :-D > > > >Stephen, did you already got Redshift´s stonking 'Ether' CD ? > >It comes with tracks I´ve been waiting for ages, the track 'Ether' > >fits most perfectly to Ricochet Part II (all IMO, of course). > > I've never heard any Redshift, Pickford or whatever, so I will start > looking > for these... > > Ricochet ousted Rubycon from my ultimate favourite spot as soon as I first > heard it. The sure sign that a piece of music touches me to the heart is > when I get serious goose bumps, that and a feeling of my hair standing on > end, almost like a very heavy static charge. > > Never heard Ricochet until July last year. A colleague of mine was > clearing > out his attic. Knowing my love for obscure music (his opinion), he gave me > a > Ricochet vinyl. Other gems included Yes, Ange, Curved Air, Jefferson > Airplane, Gryphon, Fairport Convention, Wakeman, Vangelis... all on vinyl.. > > >Just wanted to tell you all that I'm currently listening to > >Encore. I'd forgotten how much Coldwater Canyon > >kicks ass. > > Another excellent album IMO, but it's funny how I didn't notice it when it > first came out. It was the TD list that got me going on this. Thanks > Craig. > > My ultimate TD concerts were Bradford 1974, and Nottingham 1976 (those who > have the fan tape can probably hear coughing in the background - sorry, but > that was me!) > > Yes, I'm definitely pro Baumann era, for me the glory years ended when > Peter > left, and total disillusionment set in when Chris departed. I believe that > his use of the sequencer made TD a force to be reckoned with. > > Having said that, I do like Oasis and TimeSquare, which I bought at the > Nottingham 1997 concert. My impression of the concert? Goose bumps and > static! > > >So put pen to paper (or more precisely mouse to pad) and let > >us know your version of a dream. > > Do you mean dream or hallucination? Or does it really matter? > > Bye for now. > > Steve. > It's really good to know there are others who love Coldwater Canyon as much as I do! This is my all time favourite TD track and the whole album rates highly as well. Do you know Paul Stump's book 'Digital Gothic'? He also rated that album highly but I was upset he did not mention this track. With respect to my earlier'rant' about unreleased TD I don't think everything they have hidden is worthless, but EF has resisted releasing this period live material for a long time now. He says he does not want to be the kind of artist to bow to fans pressure and just give them what they want, but he is coming round to the idea !(?) There may be a few gems awaiting us 70's retro freaks still! Yep, for me TD=EF/CF/PB BTW if you like Encore, you will love redshift (www.users.dircon.co.uk/~redshift/ also check out /~rmi if you have not heard anything from the massacre boys you're in for a treat!). Are you into AirSculpture/Node? Andy Pickford has a site at www.picko.demon.co.uk. Reagrds, Daniel Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 29748 Re: Encore Synthhtnys@a... Wed 10/24/2001 2 KB 29751 Re: Encore mengels@w... Wed 10/24/2001 2 KB 29752 Re: Encore Synthhtnys@a... Wed 10/24/2001 2 KB 29754 Re: Encore Dennis Nigbur Wed 10/24/2001 2 KB 33829 Re: Encore John Vertical Sun 5/12/2002 3 KB 33830 Re: Encore Synthhtnys@a... Sun 5/12/2002 2 KB 33841 Re: Encore Dennis Nigbur Mon 5/13/2002 5 KB 33863 Re: Encore richter_arne Tue 5/14/2002 3 KB 33866 Re: Encore mars103nl Tue 5/14/2002 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 1:43 pm Subject: Re: VIC in Atlanta HEY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 ok did I miss something VIC??? Whats this about tdream at Chastain Park!!! TRUE or another false alarm.. I check paper every weekend and have heard nothing about dream... Only Vanni(he sucks) Yes Chastain would be great Lakewood the other outdoor Amp. SUCKS let me know where did this info come from Steve Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12851 Re: VIC in Atlanta HEY AOutland Sun 4/12/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 4:27 pm Subject: Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > o RAINBOW DRIVE > > I saw this *years* ago on HBO...don't at all remember the music... > > This would make a killer release! I loved the music while watching this > flick. You can rent it, too. > > E-Man Wouldn't this date from the Lily-Melrose era? I remember I saw in '91, I think...it was still 'new' then, so shouldn't it sound like what TD was doing at the time? Or is it quite different, compared to stuff like _L'Affaire Wallraff_? Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 5:02 pm Subject: tape trees (update info also) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> >Really-From: Wouter Bessels >Hi Tadreamers, >Today, I got the tapes from Hilmar, who is the digital branch of the trees >1 & 2. That means that I can go on dubbing now for my leaves. >I expect to send off all tapes to the leaves probably by the end of next week. >How's the trees 1 & 2 going so far in the US ?? -- I think everyone except the US digital people have their material... I image the us digital people should be getting their stuff any day now? >I propose starting the D:LIVE discussions in the first week of May, when >everybody will have their tapes (hopefully !!) and everybody could have an >opportunity about the material (there's some very weird stuff, folks !!!). >How about this, US branches ?? Lars and Tom, what do you think of it ?? -- OK, that sounds about right. Since Lawry is near the bottom of the food chain (no offense Lawry ;-) I told him/her ;-) earlier this week that the trees could start a week after he/she ;-) received his/her ;-) tapes. Lawry will post an announcement when the tapes are in his/her ;-) hands. I think we just need to be sure everyone has the first set of tapes since it wouldn't be fair to start the discussion otherwise. There's no harm in delaying a little bit and better now than in the midst of things. this brings me to another subject at hand. one can always expect a few problems in the first trees but I think we have ironed most of these out. the material for trees 3-4 is in the mail to the branches so those trees are moving too. additionally, the branches also will receive the material for trees 5-7 at the same time which means that distribution will be greatly expedited for subsequent trees since they will effectively begin at the branch level. this should save about 2-3 weeks and it will allow the branches to dub/burn well in advance of the deadlines--this should especially help the european branches. Soon, the majority of the material for trees 8-15 (up to 1987) will also be in the mail to the branches -- so we can be sure that the trees WILL stay ahead of the D:LIVE! discussions. this brings me to the next and final subject: if you have any high quality / low generation material for trees 5-15 (1977-1987) please contact me off-list ASAP! thanks lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 5:18 pm Subject: Re: Surface 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) Howdy! >Really-From: thesmitter@j... (Larry E Smith) >Is Surface 10 the group that did their version of Phaedra on the TD >tribute cd? Is their cd any good? Comments? Yep, it's the same guy (Dean De Benedictis-who also did the 'Exit' cover on the same disc.) If you liked those covers as much as I did (IMNSHO they were the standout tracks!) then you will *love* his CD! It is really quite good! 77 min. of e.m. that pays homage to (instead of cloning) TD's sound. Three of the tracks are over 10 min., and everything flows together quite nicely. Only one possible caveat here: some may feel that the next to last track is a little jarring, with it's sample and insistent sequencer and guitar contrasting in style a little to what has gone before it. But if you like contemporary prog rock (i.e: Ozric Tenticles, Porcupine Tree) it shouldn't bug you at all. Buy this disc now! goozer P.S: Also highly recommended from the same label: The Brain/The Brain- Berlin meets Dusseldorf e.m....and it's pure analog! Xylon/Mooncafe- More contemporary in it's sound, but it goes down a treat! --------------------------------------------------- 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring at the line between black & white for so long that their vision has blurred.' --------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 5:29 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-09 14:20:01 EDT, you write: << I'm inclined to believe that California qualifies as crossing a border. Damn weirdos went and invented Levi's >> Hmm, I believe Levi's were invented by someone of that name in New York for the purpose of giving cowboys a tougher pair of pants to wear on their long trail drives. At that time California would have been part of Mexico. I think. Now how to make this relate to TD? Well, to continue another thread I could swear I saw Mr. Froese hot walking horses at Hialeah. 8-) Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12848 Re: Nationalities PENFOLD Sat 4/11/1998 3 KB 12865 Re: Nationalities Plumer, Scott Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 6:07 pm Subject: Re: Rainbow Drive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean A few months back I asked the TD office about the possibiltity of releasing the Soundtrack.... They responded politely but mysteriously stating something to the effect they won't comment on unconfirmed rumors or works in process... So who knows? I for one hope it is released... MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 24053 Rainbow Drive rbrown4856@a... Thu 9/21/2000 2 KB 32170 Rainbow Drive Scott Wed 2/13/2002 2 KB 32173 Re: Rainbow Drive michaeljean@e... Wed 2/13/2002 3 KB 36698 Rainbow Drive Morgan Feldon feldon23 Thu 10/17/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 6:10 pm Subject: Re: more on new albums ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Sources who wish to remain anonymous have informed me there will be at least two totally new (97-1998) albums of material in the upcoming bulk of releases.. MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 6:41 pm Subject: Luminous Vision:alternate music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Just for kicks we tried viewing the new LV video while playing some early 70s TD and Redshift...Suprisingly they fit very well too! MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 9:31 pm Subject: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' If anyone want's this one, hot of the press, then mail me off list please. If you've had the others, you'll get this one automatically. Cheers, Lawry lawrysimm@u... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12856 Re: Force Majeure Midi File feldon@p... Sun 4/12/1998 3 KB 12862 Re: Force Majeure Midi File Antonio Nunes Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB 12864 Re: Force Majeure Midi File feldon@p... Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB 12902 Re: Force Majeure Midi File Lawry Simm Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12917 Re: Force Majeure Midi File PENFOLD Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12948 Re: Force Majeure Midi File Stephen Yensen Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12958 Re: Force Majeure Midi File Lawry Simm Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 13031 Re: Force Majeure Midi File feldon@p... Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13067 Re: Force Majeure Midi File AOutland Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Apr 11, 1998 9:43 pm Subject: Re: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 13:29 199804.11 EDT, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: AOutland > > >In a message dated 98-04-09 14:20:01 EDT, you write: > ><< > I'm inclined to believe that California qualifies as crossing a border. > Damn weirdos went and invented Levi's >> > > Hmm, I believe Levi's were invented by someone of that name in New York >for the purpose of giving cowboys a tougher pair of pants to wear on their >long trail drives. At that time California would have been part of Mexico. I >think. Actually Levi Strauss was a dry goods dealer who sought to make tougher pants for the California Gold Miners. The 501 are referred to as such as they originally had 501 rivets holding the fabric together in addition to stitching. (ob TD) I thought I saw Edgar's visage in a flour tortilla at El Torito Grill..... Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 12:44 am Subject: Tangerine Dream 70-80 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: patricdonaghy@w... (Patric Donaghy) I have just secured an abssolute mint copy of this box set. It appears the records have never been played...as the grooves in the records are scratch and dust free....and the records themselves are shiny and fingerprint free. The box and 28 page booklet are also in pristine condition. The sticker on the box indicates that the set was mastered ,processed, and pressed by Nimbus records of Great Britain for maximum fidelity. Nimbus is well known in audiophile circles as top notch. Evan the paper and plastic sleeves containing each of the records have no tears, wrinkles etc. If you are into serious sound ...and your turntable and cartridge are highend.....this set could be a terrific addition to your collection. I will accept bids for this set offline to my email indicated above. Thanks. Finally, I still have the unplayed Dream Roots collection cd and 60 booklet for sale. I am keeping the 5th cd of unreleased material...but I will tape it for you. I am now asking $30.00 (which includes return postage by priority mail) for this 4 cd set. Patric Donaghy Printing Impressions From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 2:16 am Subject: Re: Tape Tree 1 & 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-10 04:42:50 EDT, you write: Wouter << How's the trees 1 & 2 going so far in the US ?? >> I'm doing fine; got these re-recorded so I could listen to them in detail in my car; will hold further comments for now until we are in a formal discussion of them. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 2:34 am Subject: Re: VIC in Atlanta HEY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-04-11 09:44:37 EDT, you write: Steve << ok did I miss something VIC??? Whats this about tdream at Chastain Park!!! >> Not TD; a group called Yes as reported by Vicky Rudd. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 3:43 am Subject: Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Gabe Yediditagain > > > > > o RAINBOW DRIVE > > > I saw this *years* ago on HBO...don't at all remember the music... > > > > This would make a killer release! I loved the music while watching this > > flick. You can rent it, too. > > Wouldn't this date from the Lily-Melrose era? > I remember I saw in '91, I think...it was still 'new' then, so shouldn't > it sound like what TD was doing at the time? Or is it quite different, > compared to stuff like _L'Affaire Wallraff_? I do believe it's late 80s/early 90s, in the vein of The Man Inside and Dead Solid Perfect (Riley's favorite!), and just as good. E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 7:26 am Subject: live concerts on tape... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TradinCrds is anyone out there willing to trade some tapes with me?? i have several 1000 live tapes of many many bands.. but very little td... and i am interested in getting anything i can.. that is of excellent quality... also.. does anyone know if there are any pro shot live videos that are in the collectors circles?? i know of one.. sights and sounds fest eng 81 40mins are there others?? if so.. can anyone help me obtain some for myself.. ?? im in the usa.. so i need em on ntsc vhs only... and im only interested in pro shot shows.. of vg or better quality... thanks for ur help... whoever writes... in advance.. note... check out my web page.. http://members.aol.com/mediajunki/page1.html there is one link.. at the bottom.. for those psychedelic image lovers out there... i have 1100 more of such images.. lastly... i have a book that i got about 8 yrs ago.. that was immense.. and dealt with td and all the material that they had done... each page was devoted to an lp or cd... and there was a wealth of info in it.. i think it went for $50 or so but i got it used and unexpectedly for $5 or less... has this book been reissued.. or updated?? does anyone know where i can get a newer version of it? thanks for ur time... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 1:42 pm Subject: Re: YES in ATLANTA ?????? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 ahhhhhhh 'YES' on of my all time favs... I've seen them 11 times over the years.. I would watch for them too. But I have seen nothing on them either coming to Atlanta anyone know any REAL details on this or just hearsay???? Steve From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 12:59 pm Subject: What's On? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda What's on tap for TD these days? They canceled (or never even planned on having?) the US tour this summer... thanks for nothing Miramar! I thought I read that Linda Spa and Zlatko Perica were dropped from the line-up, but they were still with them in the October/November UK Tour? So if they toured this year, would they need to recruit new band members? If so, what direction would that take them? Edgar and Jerome are currently consumed with studio work... remixing and remastering all the upcoming releases of the older material, I presume... or are there any new studio releases planned this year?? I see they moved their studio to another location in Berlin... any idea why? They are now on the TDI Music label and they are considering releasing music by other artists... any hints of who? Is Edgar going to retire anytime soon? If so, what would Jerome do with the 'group'? I really don't see anything on either the Official TD Homepage or members' webpages or even the Dream Collector newsletter concerning any of this... or if it is, maybe this would be a good thread to start again here?! Regards, Mark American/Male/Scorpio(10-24-56)... first heard TD in 1975 (Rubycon) np: Ashra - Sauce Hollandaise Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12869 Re: What's On? Lawry Simm Mon 4/13/1998 4 KB 12873 Re: What's On? Gabe Yedid Mon 4/13/1998 4 KB 12871 Re: What's On? Marcel Engels Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB 12903 Re: What's On? Lawry Simm Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 2:34 pm Subject: Re: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:31 PM 4/11/98 +0100, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > >If anyone want's this one, hot of the press, then mail me >off list please. If you've had the others, you'll get this one >automatically. This MIDI file is really awesome. You guys need to listen to this. May I suggest 'WinGroove Player' for Win95/NT? If you don't have one of those fancy soundcards which have a megabyte of sound samples on it, this card plays MIDI files with a huge library of sound samples. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 3:25 pm Subject: Happy Easter (no TD) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) Greeting all! I would just like to wish everyone a most Happy Easter! May this day indeed bring new beginnings to us all! goozer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'He came to pay a debt He didn't owe, because we owed a debt we couldn't pay.' ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Apr 12, 1998 3:51 pm Subject: sorry and other ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: NAdams43 to lawrence edward simm i herby formerly apologise in front of witnesses, for calling you a girl. Right that out the way, ive just got hold of a copy of mark shreeves red shift ether and i can honestly say if anyone is dithering over getting this then stop it and buy it now, you will not be disapointed honest it is shit hot.also got a copy of peter mergeners instinctive traveller,another great album. i am after a couple of dream boots called phaedream and absulutely mesmorised can anyone help. regards nick fave albums ricochet and cyclone b side From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 2:45 am Subject: Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) Greetings all- Well, I know for certain that four of them are the Private Music releases! goozer (stirring the pot...) --------------------------------------------------- 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring at the line between black & white for so long that their vision has blurred.' --------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 2:19 am Subject: Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) > > Well, I know for certain that four of them are the Private Music releases! Well, ain't that friggin' fine 'n' dandy! OR, MM, LotB, & Melrose: been there, done that!!!!!!!!!!! > > goozer (stirring the pot...) E-Man (nukin' the Maruchan...) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12872 Re: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs Jim Moore Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 9:46 am Subject: Pretenders to the Throne?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' Over the last few days, I've been decorating the place - kids and wife sent away to her mothers......so it gave me an opportunity to listen to lots of cd's. I went through RMI, Redshift, TD (of course), Pink Floyd (Wow!! - this music really stands the test of time - 'Wish You Were Here' - was magical and 'The Wall' - powerful!! ), Camel and other more obscure sounds. Of the TD, I went through Ricochet, Cyclone, Tangram, Stratosphere, and then switched to cassettes of Melbourne 75, Albert Hall 76 and a few more. Whilst listening to the comparative (relatively speaking) sounds of Redshift and TD, I couldn't help thinking that Redshift was SO professionally produced and contained brilliant sequencing etc, technically superb, yet for all that I couldn't get the nagging thought out of my head that it was an imitation of TD and that put side by side, TD's early music had that certain SOMETHING which for me captured the spirit - maybe it was because I well remember listening to the TD tapes in my first flat when I had music wired to the bedrooms and was woken up by the birdcall and flute start of Liverpool 76, and how passionate I was about those concerts - I don't know! The question I asked was - WAS TD 76 actually better than Redshift 1997/8, or is it merely my perception. Is Redshift merely a pretender to the throne or does it actually produce superior music to TD in their heydays?? This brings me to a second point - after the great debate about using pre-sets etc - after hearing Redshift - and Ricochet - it seemed to me that BOTH used a typically sounding Moog sound - I mean - instantly you KNOW thats a Moog! - So isn't that the same as using a pre-set?? (I accept that one Moog sound varies from another - indeed, the same sound varies from day to day, hour to hour - but not to the point that you dont know which sound it is and where its coming from!. Anybody else care to explain their thoughts on TD vs Redshift?? Ash Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12876 Re: Pretenders to the Throne?? Jens Peschke Mon 4/13/1998 5 KB 12895 Re: Pretenders to the Throne?? Flemming Larsen Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12931 Re: Pretenders to the Throne?? Jens Peschke Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 10:47 am Subject: Re: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes feldon@p... wrote: > This MIDI file is really awesome. You guys need to listen to this. Totally agree. Very well done, Lawry! > May I > suggest 'WinGroove Player' for Win95/NT? If you don't have one of those > fancy soundcards which have a megabyte of sound samples on it, this card > plays MIDI files with a huge library of sound samples. Another alternative is the Yamaha soft synth S-YXG50. This software 'converts' any cheap 16-bit sound card into a high quality midi playback system, XG/GM/TG300B compatible, but you'll need at least a Pentium 166. See details at http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/xg/s-synth/syxg50/yxg50_e.html Antonio Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12864 Re: Force Majeure Midi File feldon@p... Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 1:36 pm Subject: SMD and Gold Collection CD w/Streethawk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Hi Dreamers, Just last week I received a mailer from SMD (Synth Music Direct) with a TD and related sale from David Law's private collection. Many nice items were (and maybe still are) there! What caught my interest was the 'VA - Gold Collection CD with Streethawk' on it. This has been on my want list for quite a while. So I wonder if anyone on this list beat me to this item and if so, would they be willing to trade it for something that will make it worth their while?!? Anyone else willing to part with this sampler CD? Any help greatly appreciated :-) BTW, my server was down for a few days due to the tornado that hit the South. I went driving this weekend through central Georgia and saw a section of forest (and some homes) just ripped to shreds by these powerful winds. Pictures can barely capture the devestation. I hope I never have to deal with a tornado face-to-face, I'll stick to Tournado instead ;-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 1:41 pm Subject: Re: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... Well, I definately know where Lawrysimm got his sources for Tangram and Force Majeure... These are the Tangentized versions from the Tangents boxed set if my ears do not deceive me. They are excellent work... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 1:48 pm Subject: RE: Nationalities ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > Hmm, I believe Levi's were invented by someone of that name in New York >for the purpose of giving cowboys a tougher pair of pants to wear on their >long trail drives. At that time California would have been part of Mexico. I >think. The story I always heard was that Levi Strauss went west with a wagon load of canvas to make & sell tents. After riding that long distance, he discovered his pants would wear out rather quickly, and so decided to make pants with his canvas instead. Originally, they had a rivet in the center of the crotch, but when cowboys would sit around the campfire, the rivet would heat up and burn what made the cowboys boys. Thus, Herr Strauss got rid of the crotch rivet. > Now how to make this relate to TD? Well, to continue another thread I >could swear I saw Mr. Froese hot walking horses at Hialeah. 8-) Dell Well, Strauss was German, and TD wore a lot of jeans. . . Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 2:37 pm Subject: RE: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> Well, I know for certain that four of them are the Private Music >releases! >Well, ain't that friggin' fine 'n' dandy! OR, MM, LotB, & Melrose: been >there, done that!!!!!!!!!!! Don't get yer panties in a bunch, Eli, I doubt even Ed knows what's going to on those CD's. I think they just said that to keep drawing people to their site for info. Unless they're releasing stuff completely as-is, unmodified, etc., I don't think they'd have the time to release 25 CD's-worth of material. I just hope one of them contains the lost 45 min. from Sorceror. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 3:06 pm Subject: To(u)rnado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Vic Rek > >BTW, my server was down for a few days due to the tornado that hit the >South. I went driving this weekend through central Georgia and saw a >section of forest (and some homes) just ripped to shreds by these >powerful winds. Pictures can barely capture the devestation. I hope I >never have to deal with a tornado face-to-face, I'll stick to Tournado >instead ;-) I really can't imagine how I would feel, when my home is blown away. Everything gone, pictures/memories from the past, all synthesizers and equipment gone (argh). Thank god, there aren't any tornado's here. We've got windforce 12 or 13 a couple of times. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12868 Re: To(u)rnado Vic Rek Mon 4/13/1998 3 KB 12870 Re: To(u)rnado Plumer, Scott Mon 4/13/1998 2 KB 12878 Re: To(u)rnado Hermes Guzman Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12890 Re: To(u)rnado Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 3:59 pm Subject: Re: To(u)rnado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > I really can't imagine how I would feel, when my home is blown away. > Everything gone, pictures/memories from the past, all synthesizers and > equipment gone (argh). > Thank god, there aren't any tornado's here. We've got windforce 12 > or 13 a couple of times. Yes, I may have to build a basement or move my collection at least downstairs. But if I was unfortunate enough to get hit by one then once the storm passed there would be TD stuff strewn all over the South, maybe some of it even still playable. I bet TD sales here would then pick up as these people discovered this strange music that dropped from the sky (as I was franticaly scanning all the used CD shops).... I guess TD would have to come here and stage a benefit concert? Kind of reminds me of that time when Edgar dropped from a helicopter 3 crates of 'Exit' LPs (each containing 1000 copies) around the Moscow metro area ;-) Keep dreaming... Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 2:38 pm Subject: RE: What's On? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Questions questions.... :-) > I thought I read that Linda Spa and Zlatko Perica were dropped > from the line-up, but they were still with them in the October/November > UK Tour? Linda Spa has indeed gone, and she did not tour with TD in the UK. The Z-Man was still there though. > Edgar and Jerome are currently consumed with studio work... > remixing and remastering all the upcoming releases of the > older material, I presume... or are there any new studio releases > planned this year?? From what I hear, there are 2 new studio release planned this year along with all the reissues/remasters/live shows/soundtracks that are supposed to see the light of day too. > They are now on the TDI Music label and they are considering releasing > music by other artists... any hints of who? Johannes Schmoelling for one. Giving rise to the rumour that JS is to rejoin TD for a new collaboration. If you ask me though, that's a big load of bollocks. > Is Edgar going to retire anytime soon? If so, what would Jerome do > with the 'group'? Ed claims to be retiring in the year 2000. Hopefully, in the direction Jerome has hinted at through some of the recent TD releases, and through his one off radio show. Regards Lawry lawrysimm@u... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12873 Re: What's On? Gabe Yedid Mon 4/13/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 5:16 pm Subject: RE: To(u)rnado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Kind of reminds me of that time when Edgar dropped from a helicopter 3 >crates of 'Exit' LPs (each containing 1000 copies) around the Moscow >metro area ;-) Huh? Is this true? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 6:08 pm Subject: Re: What's On? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > >> They are now on the TDI Music label and they are considering releasing >> music by other artists... any hints of who? > >Johannes Schmoelling for one. Giving rise to the rumour that JS is to >rejoin TD for a new collaboration. If you ask me though, that's a big load >of bollocks. Hmm, I don't think that would happen. Although it would have been very very nice if it was true. Now if they only can find a third person to make it complete again :-) And buy some new technology (virtual synths etc....) and maybe then they will be playing some good music again. (all in my opinion!!!) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 6:48 pm Subject: RE: Speculation About the Alleged 25 1998 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >> Well, I know for certain that four of them are the Private Music >releases! >Well, ain't that friggin' fine 'n' dandy! OR, MM, LotB, & Melrose: been >there, done that!!!!!!!!!!! I believe that those titles have been deleted from the Private Music lists, (i.e., they're no longer being pressed), so anyone who just started listening to TD and wanted to have these albums might have an easier time of finding them... - jim 'If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes...' -- Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) Blade Runner, 1982 ----------------------------------------------------- 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www.jimbo.vivid.net From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 6:53 pm Subject: RE: What's On? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > > Questions questions.... :-) > > > I thought I read that Linda Spa and Zlatko Perica were dropped > > from the line-up, but they were still with them in the October/November > > UK Tour? > > Linda Spa has indeed gone, and she did not tour with TD in the UK. > The Z-Man was still there though. Zlatko rejoined TD after a 2-3 year hiatus. Seriously, though, I think he fits in better with the new TD direction than Linda ever did. Her performance at the '96 London concert, was, IMO, a key factor in her 'dismissal'. > > Edgar and Jerome are currently consumed with studio work... > > remixing and remastering all the upcoming releases of the > > older material, I presume... or are there any new studio releases > > planned this year?? > > >From what I hear, there are 2 new studio release planned this year > along with all the reissues/remasters/live shows/soundtracks that are > supposed to see the light of day too. > > > They are now on the TDI Music label and they are considering releasing > > music by other artists... any hints of who? > > Johannes Schmoelling for one. Giving rise to the rumour that JS is to > rejoin TD for a new collaboration. If you ask me though, that's a big load > of bollocks. WHAAAAAT???? Where did you hear THAT one, Lawry? I'm sorry, but I just can't picture Johannes getting along *in* the new TD. Even if Jerome might be a pleasure to work *with*, Johannes simply has no groove in him (as much as I respect what he has done). If there is one ex-TD musician who is supremely maladapted to Jerome's compositional tendencies, it's Johannes. Paul Haslinger I could definitely see working. Franke....maybe. Baumann...if he could remember what to do with a synth. But Johannes??? (cue picture of Dream Mixes III--feature track '3 A.M. at the Virtual Chipmunk Rave') > Regards > Lawry > lawrysimm@u... Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 7:34 pm Subject: temp unsub ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Gerry Fox' unsubscribe tadream gerryfox@e... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12875 Re: temp unsub Gerry Fox Mon 4/13/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 8:31 pm Subject: Re: temp unsub ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Gerry Fox' oh damn ! I know.....I know....I know I hit the wrong label in the address list OK ! ---------- > Really-From: 'Gerry Fox' > > > unsubscribe tadream gerryfox@e... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Apr 13, 1998 9:23 pm Subject: Re: Pretenders to the Throne?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'ashok prema' >The question I asked was - WAS TD 76 actually better than Redshift 1997/8, > or is it merely my perception. What exactly are you asking ? The production of Redshift is surely better than the old TD stuff, no surprise as it´s produced 20 years later, bloke ! Musically the TD stuff was almost improvised rather than composed (Ricochet/Encore) as in the case of some of the Redshift tracks. Even Redshifts sequences are *composed* and musically more interesting/varied than the old TD stuff, IMO. I prefer the original to the imitation, though. Maybe because of the improvised guitar solos like on Coldwater Canyon. On the other hand I agree, Ether is a stunner ! >This brings me to a second point - after the great debate about using >pre-sets etc - after hearing Redshift - and Ricochet - it seemed to me >that BOTH used a typically sounding Moog sound - I mean - instantly you >KNOW thats a Moog! - So isn't that the same as using a pre-set?? (I accept >that one Moog sound varies from another - indeed, the same sound varies from >day to day, hour to hour - but not to the point that you dont know which >sound it is and where its coming from!. Err. Do you mean all the sequences are from a Moog Modular ? Nope. The Moog modular system is able to provide a single 8 step sequence, TD used two systems, Redshift one. The Moog is used for the enormous base line sequences of Ricochet/Ether, btw. What do you think TD did with their other sequencers ? Used on Encore: Modular Moog (2*), Projekt Elektronic Sequencer (2*), Computerstudio digital sequencer, Oberheim sequencer- I don´t know what other sequencers Redshift were using, but Mark Shreeve used a 19'' rack full of modules incl. Sequencers during the ARC concert in Huizen/Netherlands. Maybe the booklet of the next Redshift release on *your* Champagner Lake label will offer a gearlist to enlighten the anoraks in our midst. ;) Speaking of presets I agree with you, btw. >Anybody else care to explain their thoughts on TD vs Redshift?? Mmh, there´s no TD vs Redshift. Redshifts output is way better than all the stuff TD released after 1984 (all IMO). But there are many more excellent *retro* acts like AirSculpture (improvised!), ARC (completely composed), FSP, Node (scary), Stephen Parsick, RAMP, RMI (lack of melodies), UtD, btw. Others like The Nightcrawlers and Dwellers of the T... aren´t that good, IMHO. Even JMJ *imitates* his own style of the 70s, I doubt that TD will ever release a retro album, though. Kind Regards Jens np: Ether... again and again.. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: Pretenders to the Throne?? >Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:46:12 +0100 >Really-From: 'ashok prema' > >Whilst listening to the comparative (relatively speaking) sounds of >Redshift and TD, I couldn't help thinking that Redshift was SO >professionally produced and contained brilliant sequencing etc, >technically superb, yet for all that I couldn't get the nagging thought >out of my head that it was an imitation of TD and that put side by side, >TD's early music had that certain SOMETHING which for me captured the >spirit [. . .] Of *course* it's an imitation of TD (1974 era TD for the first album and 1974-1977, 1983 era TD for the second album)! Did you ever think otherwise?!?!? That's why info about these CDs has been and will continue to be posted here, and why lotsa folks buy them and are as happy as pigs in shit about it: because it's great. For those pining for 'old style' TD, this is the best prior-era TD retread this side of OASIS! >[. . .] Was TD 76 actually better than Redshift 1997/8, or is it merely my perception. Is Redshift merely a pretender to the throne or does it >actually produce superior music to TD in their heydays?? Sounds like flamebait to me! ;) Seriously, though, play some of the tape tree live tapes from the 1975-1977 period, and you'll see that Redshift is a good copy, but not an improvement. Still, one wonders how many tapes of the tape tree sort Mark Shreeve (the leader of Redshift, for those who don't know) and company have heard and committed to memory. >Anybody else care to explain their thoughts on TD vs Redshift?? Errr . . . both are great. I know: lame. But that's how I feel about it. >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: Re: Pretenders to the Throne?? >Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:23:21 +0200 >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > >I prefer the original to the imitation, though. Maybe because of the >improvised guitar solos like on Coldwater Canyon. > >On the other hand I agree, Ether is a stunner ! Yep. When the closing guitar sequence began near the end of the (twenty-seven-minute-long!) title track, my jaw was on the floor. >>Anybody else care to explain their thoughts on TD vs Redshift?? > >Mmh, there's no TD vs Redshift. >Redshift's output is way better than all the stuff TD released after >1984 (all IMO). I take it you don't like MELROSE, DEAD SOLID PERFECT, THE DREAM MIXES, and OASIS, then. >Others like The Nightcrawlers and Dwellers of the T... aren't that >good, IMHO. How much Nightcrawlers have you heard? Their third album (which is on their TRAVELLING BACKWARDS CD) and many of their mid-to-late 1980's cassettes are really good. In fact, I would rank 'Crawlers cassettes like MIDWINTER DAYDREAM, EVENING REPOSE, 2031 AD, and CYBERSUN 231 up there with Eno's best and would place them not too much lower than -- dare I say it? -- RUBYCON and EPSILON IN MALYSIAN PALE. When it comes to the drifty, abstract, spacey stuff, the Nightcrawlers often beat out TD -- with the exception of 'Desert Dream' (ENCORE) and 'Remote Viewing' EXIT) -- and *certainly* Redshift. (How's *them* fer fightin' words?) >np: Ether... again and again.. I know what you mean. -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unidentified flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts the Air Force has silenced it personnel.' --Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, the 1st director of the CIA, quoted in THE NEW YORK TIMES, February 28, 1960. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12885 Re: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) Vic Rek Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12886 Re: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) Dan J. Schulte Tue 4/14/1998 4 KB 12889 Re: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB 12892 Re: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) Jens Peschke Tue 4/14/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:14 am Subject: RE: To(u)rnado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) Speaking of the twisters...anyone hear from our Alabama contingent yet? goozer --------------------------------------------------- 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring at the line between black & white for so long that their vision has blurred.' --------------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12890 Re: To(u)rnado Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Steven Feldman, Splittin' Hairs Agin' Hi, I just received copies of Redshift's ETHER and the Champagne Lake Records sampler, IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE? the other day (Thanks Ash!) and noticed that the excerpt of ETHER on the sampler is listed as being a track that was slated for inclusion on an upcoming release -- and yet, here's some data that seems to contradict this: o From the Champagne Lake Records sampler, IS HERE ANYBODY OUT THERE?: 'Ether' (excerpt), by Redshift 7:32 Live at Jodrell Bank Dec '96 o From the second Redshift album, ETHER: 'Ether' [the title track] 27:29 Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96 So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed before? -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12900 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Stephen Yensen Tue 4/14/1998 4 KB 12923 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12901 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Lawry Simm Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB 12908 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12909 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Marcel Engels Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12980 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Michael Fox Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12926 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12927 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Plumer, Scott Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12928 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman The first Redshift album, called REDSHIFT, sounds moslty like a combination of PHAEDRA and RUBYCON, but with kick-ass guitar dissimilar to that of 'Coldwater Canyon' from ENCORE. The second Redshift album, ETHER -- which I've only listened to *parts* of *once* (that's right, I have yet to play it all the way through . . . Lars!) -- sounds like mostly like RICOCHET, but with parts of PHAEDRA, RUBYCON and . . . HYPERBOREA?!? Yes, it's true. There are sounds and passages much like 'Sphinx Lightning' on ETHER! Hell, I really should play this sucker from beginning to end when I get home. Even though I hate wearing headphones, I think I'll put them on and crank the volume for this sucker. Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: , and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Redshift, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, R. Carty, Serrie +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12881 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like SRiser3600 Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB 12887 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB 12899 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like Vincent Goudreault Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12907 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12910 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like Vincent Goudreault Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12913 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12914 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like Marcel Engels Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12915 Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like Marcel Engels Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:35 am Subject: Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 WHERE CAN ONE FIND THESE???? ARE THEY REGULAR RELEASES?? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:40 am Subject: RE: YES in Atlanta.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vicky Rudd >ahhhhhhh 'YES' on of my all time favs... >I've seen them 11 times over the years.. >I would watch for them too. >But I have seen nothing on them either coming to Atlanta >anyone know any REAL details on this or just hearsay???? > >Steve > YES will be at Chastain Park on August 6th. There has been no information released on when tickets will go on sale (possibly mid-April). Tentative opening act is Alan Parsons. Yes alumni Billy Sherwood will join Jon, Steve, Chris, and Alan on this tour to promote Open Your Eyes, available now with a surround sound version available in March/May. In addition Igor 'Ivan' Khoroshev is playing keyboards on this new album and current world tour. Need any more info?? Victoria Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 2:27 am Subject: New vs. Old ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vicky Rudd I've noticed that everyone here has been a fan of TD for many years and is thusly put off by any of the new music. I don't believe the new music is any better or worse than the old music, IMVHO, of course. After all, it was the new music that attracted me to TD in the first place. And I still haven't been exposed to a whole lot of the old music. Yet I still love TD. My favorite CD would have to be ToB. And I started with Legend, which would be my next favorite. My extremely small (but growing as I have the $$$) collection consists of Canyon Dreams, 220 Volt Live, Rockoon, Goblin's Club, Turn of the Tides, Private Music, Dream Mixes 2, and the 2 I mentioned above. Through a friend of mine, I have been exposed to some of the older stuff as well, like Rubycon and Phaedra. It's all in your perception. And I do realize that perception is 99% of reality. True, the new stuff is different, but that's all it is...different. Give the new stuff a break... you might find you actually enjoy it. I certainly have. Victoria Sunset: That moment in which the luminous aura of the moon replaces the last blazing remnants of the sun... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12884 Re: New vs. Old Vic Rek Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12891 Re: New vs. Old Jens Peschke Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12906 Re: New vs. Old Jeffrey Au-Yeung Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 13002 Re: New vs. Old Colin Knowles Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13018 Re: New vs. Old Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13078 Re: New vs. Old Colin Knowles Fri 4/17/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 3:53 am Subject: Re: New vs. Old ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Vicky Rudd >It's all in your perception. And I do realize that perception is 99% of >reality. True, the new stuff is different, but that's all it >is...different. Give the new stuff a break... you might find you actually >enjoy it. I certainly have. Very well stated, but it takes time for some of us... Please be patient - it's a virtue, really :) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 3:53 am Subject: Re: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek OK, I've held back long enough on this. Even though I'll offend some friends and fellow listeners, I just have to say that I really don't give a crap about Redshift or Mark Shreeve on this list. I listen to both these artists but I'm tired of hearing all this comparison stuff between them and TD. They're all very good, but TD is still the best... Shreeve is electronic-rock and Redshift is his hope to gain confidence from the salty ole EM crowd; but I'm not biting, not yet at least :-) Too much beat, then 'ahhhhhhhh' then beat, then beat then 'aahhhh' then space,,,, I'm just tired of this stuff. I think I'm starting to like Dream Mixes TOO! Later, Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 4:32 am Subject: Re: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Vic Rek > > OK, I've held back long enough on this. Even though I'll offend some friends > and fellow listeners, I just have to say that I really don't give a crap > about Redshift or Mark Shreeve on this list. I listen to both these artists > but I'm tired of hearing all this comparison stuff between them and TD. > They're all very good, but TD is still the best... Shreeve is > electronic-rock and Redshift is his hope to gain confidence from the salty > ole EM crowd; but I'm not biting, not yet at least :-) Too much beat, then > 'ahhhhhhhh' then beat, then beat then 'aahhhh' then space,,,, I'm just tired > of this stuff. I think I'm starting to like Dream Mixes TOO! > > Later, > Vic Hehheh, Vic's getting old in his age..er...I mean..heh heh. To compare TD & Shreeve is, I must admit, pretty lame. It's like comparing Cheap Trick's cover of Elvis' 'Don't Be Cruel'. Same song, different era, they're both good in different aspects but one thing will always remain...the original is the classic and is almost always the best. To sit around & compare two songs done 20 years apart is, IMO, just plain useless. It's a cover...nothing more. 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The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > >Subject: Pretenders to the Throne?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I prefer the line 'Defenders of the Faith,' to borrow J.P.'s album title :-) ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:49 am Subject: RE: To(u)rnado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 08:14 PM 4/13/1998 -0500, goozer graciously wrote: > >Speaking of the twisters...anyone hear from our Alabama contingent yet? We are fine. Thanks for asking. It is appreciated. Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 8:04 am Subject: Re: New vs. Old ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Vicky Rudd > > >I've noticed that everyone here has been a fan of TD for many years and is >thusly put off by any of the new music. Nah, I´m not put off by their new music, just prefer the older stuff. I´ve discovered TD (and KS, Ashra, JMJ) in 1979 at the age of 13, bought my first synth with 14. I´ve been pre-programed by their music. ;-) >It's all in your perception. And I do realize that perception is 99% of >reality. True, the new stuff is different, but that's all it >is...different. Quite, pre-programed perception. > Give the new stuff a break... you might find you actually enjoy it. Well, I wouldn´t stay on this list if their 90s stuff *would* be crap in my pocket. Keep on dreaming Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 7:50 am Subject: Re: Redshift vs. TD: the Fight is On! ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Steven Feldman >>Redshift's output is way better than all the stuff TD released after >>1984 (all IMO). > > I take it you don't like MELROSE, DEAD SOLID PERFECT, THE DREAM >MIXES, and OASIS, then. Nah, I just prefer Ricochet, Encore, Tangram and Poland, that´s all. Speaking of imitations, well, 'The Dream Mixes' is an imitation of modern 90s EM with Trance/Techno elements. Nicely done, perfectly produced, but not as asskicking as such a hybrid can be. (I prefer DMI/II to JMJ´s techno remixes (yuk!), btw.) Ever heard Mind~Flux´s 'Trancefloor' from 1994 ? I´m a bit biased, I know.... 'Oasis' actually is 'Canyon Dreams II', both are excellent, IMO. Excellent yes, classics no ! >>Others like The Nightcrawlers and Dwellers of the T... aren't that >>good, IMHO. > > How much Nightcrawlers have you heard? The 2CD set 'Travelling backwards'. >Their third album (which is on their TRAVELLING BACKWARDS CD) and many >of their mid-to-late 1980's cassettes are really good. In fact, I would rank 'Crawlers cassettes >like MIDWINTER DAYDREAM, EVENING REPOSE, 2031 AD, and CYBERSUN 231 up >there with Eno's best I´m not a huge fan of Eno, that´s maybe the reason why I don´t *love* the slow experimental bits of 'Travelling Backwards'. Sorry for the off topic stuff, Vic (and others). Back to the most interesting topics of the last weeks: 'birthday permutations', 'I have a penis, am I an alien ?', 'Canuckle-Heads and other nationalities'. Let´s guess if the re-releases of TD´s Private Music stuff will have bonus tracks or not ! Kind regards Jens np: The Nightcrawlers: Traveling backwards (Modulus 4 and Tanzwut ARE good, IMO) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 8:32 am Subject: TD versus ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA OK, here's my three cents worth. Inflation, you know. I have yet to hear any Shreeve or Redshift. Someone was supposed to send me a tape, can't remember who. Comparisons aside, I can't see why we must debate these facts. I prefer chocolate ice cream to vanilla, but you can eat all the vanilla you like. My life does not revolve around Tangerine Dream. I must admit that, at any given time, there is more TD in my CD player than any other band, but I still listen to other artists. To make comparisons, to me, is pointless. Sure Rush is like Triumph and they both have 3 members and both are from Canada, but that's where the similarities end. Kraft macaroni and cheese is better than generic, but hey, if all you can afford is the facsimile, enjoy it. Tangerine Dream is THE pioneer, or at least, they used to be. Sure, we can fight about which TD era is the best, but we all know that when Johannes left, it was the beginning of the end. No offense to Baby Jerome, but hey buddy, you're no Chris Franke. That being said, I encourage people to listen to other artists and to draw their own conclusions. To say this band is better than that band is an exercise in futility. Of course, that's just my wife's opinion, and she can't be wrong....David N.P. Sounds of the Seventies...1979 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12894 Re: TD versus ? Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 7:59 am Subject: Re: TD versus ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > OK, here's my three cents worth. Inflation, you know. I have yet to hear any > Shreeve or Redshift. Someone was supposed to send me a tape, can't remember > who. Me. ::E:: P.S. You're still going to get it :-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 9:59 pm Subject: Re: Pretenders to the Throne?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Flemming Larsen Jens Peschke wrote >Nope. The Moog modular system is able to provide a single 8 step >sequence, Uhm, that depends on what modules you have in you Moog Modular. The Moog Modular can easily produce 2 (or more) 8 step sequences. All you need is two analog sequencer modules, and a Moog system capable of playing polyphonic, which I think it was from the beginning. In theory a Moog Modular can play as many sequences and notes at the same time as you want. You decide ! It's a modular ;-) Do you know the excact layout of TDs Moog systems perhabs ? ;-) Flemming, Denmark. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Hi tadreamers, if there is no news, it's the time to create news... According to this motto, some of the discussions of the last weeks have turned into a strange direction. Most of the items which have caused the so-called 'speculations on the forthcoming 25 TD albums' discussion on this list could be read in 'Dream Collector' two months ago, so actually there should be no reason for 'speculations' or 'rumour'... > I really don't see anything on either the Official TD Homepage or members' > webpages or even the Dream Collector newsletter concerning any of this... This is probably because both consider reliable facts only and do not take part in the speculations on this Mailing List. By the way, a lot of the speculations get pushed forward not only by people who have reliable information but also by some who do not even read 'Dream Collector' but speculate about its contents. This reminds me of acting like politicians: 'I do not know what the subject is, but this does not matter as long as something to say comes to my mind...' ;-) Perhaps it's the time to take the discussion back to a serious base. Thus, for the first time, a whole 'Dream Collector' article can be read here, answering questions or regarding statements from the Mailing List like these: > Edgar and Jerome are currently consumed with studio work... remixing and > remastering all the upcoming releases of the older material, I presume... > or are there any new studio releases planned this year?? > I just hope one of them contains the lost 45 min. from Sorceror. > Sources who wish to remain anonymous have informed me there will be at > least two totally new (97-1998) albums of material in the upcoming bulk of > releases.. > Well, I know for certain that four of them are the Private Music releases! > Don't get yer panties in a bunch, Eli, I doubt even Ed knows > what's going to on those CD's. I think they just said that to keep > drawing people to their site for info. Unless they're releasing stuff > completely as-is, unmodified, etc., I don't think they'd have the time > to release 25 CD's-worth of material. > Edgar and Jerome are currently consumed with studio work... > remixing and remastering all the upcoming releases of the > older material, I presume... or are there any new studio releases > planned this year?? > From what I hear, there are 2 new studio release planned this year > along with all the reissues/remasters/live shows/soundtracks that are > supposed to see the light of day too. --- Quote from 'Dream Collector' #21, February, 16th (!), 1998 ---> 25 CDs to be out soon TDI label offers old and rare material TD collectors, 1998 turns out to be an interesting and expensive year... Tangerine Dream's new Berlin based label TDI Music will release some 36 CDs containing well-known and rare old as well as new material, Edgar and Jerome Froese said to Dream Collector in Berlin. The TDI catalogue scheduled for the next few months announces some 25 CDs. About half of them are re-releases of TD material mostly recorded in the nineties; most of the other CDs feature previously unreleased compositions from earlier times, including a lot of live rarities. The TDI Music catalogue is subdivided into the following periods: - The pink years: unreleased material from the very early TD decade 1970-1973. - The Virgin years: unreleased concert performances and rehearsal material from 1974-1984. - The Hollywood years: Unreleased material from productions which never saw daylight or were not used by the director's request. - The Private years: All of TD's albums recorded with Private Music, the company of former band member Peter Baumann, in 1988-1990. The rights have been reverted back to TD. - The Seattle years: Material from 1991-1995 which had been released in the USA by the Seattle based Miramar company. - The millenium years: 'As this century draws to a close, we find the band in a more creative mood than ever', the TDI promotion flyer says. This period will feature new material. On TDI's first promo sheet, the following CDs have been announced: Back catalogue - Optical Race (1988) - Lily on the beach (1989) - Dream Mixes Vol. I (2-CD-version by TDI, 1995) - Melrose (1990) - Rockoon (1991) - 220 Volt live (1992) - Turn of the tides (1993) - Tyranny of beauty (1994) - Oasis (1997) - Tournado - Live in Europe (1997) Old rarities - Soundmill navigator - Live at the Philharmonics (Berlin concert, 1976) - The Hollywood years Vol. I (unreleased soundtracks) - The Hollywood years Vol. II - Quinoa (extended Fan Club release, 1990) - Live Dream Encores (encore music from various concerts) - Sohoman - Live in Sydney (1983) [should be read: 1982] - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) - Twilight folder (rare unreleased material 1983-1997) New material/compilations - Ambient monkeys (pre-concert ambient background music, 1997) - Time Square - Dream Mixes II (1997) - Transsiberia (motion picture soundtrack, 1997) - Atlantic walls (compilation I, 1988-1991) - Atlantic bridges (compilation II, 1988-1991) - Star trooper - The classical edge of Tangerine Dream (Mozart, Bach, Sibelius played by TD, 1997) - Lions share (new studio album, 1998). The catalogue numbers of all these releases have not yet been published. 'Time Square - Dream Mixes II' should go on sale within the next days. 'Ambient monkeys' and 'Transsiberia' should follow within the next weeks, TDI Music announced. Pre-sale copies of 'Ambient monkeys' and 'Time Square' have already been available at TD's merchandise stalls during their U.K. concerts in autumn 1997. All of the new CDs do have abstract computer cover artwork based on ideas by Edgar and Jerome Froese. Some of the well-known covers have been slightly changed, especially the text types and layout. With rights reverting and licenses expiring, the TDI Music catalogue will be enlarged in future, Edgar and Jerome said. For example, one of the projects not included in this 25-CD-list but scheduled for the first 36-CD-bulk is the previously unavailable material for the soundtrack 'Forbidden' (German original: 'Versteckt'). And more: TD have the idea also to release music by other artists on the TDI Music label. <--- End of quote --- Regarding some more questions from the Mailing List: > I see they moved their studio to another location in Berlin... any idea why? Right now, the Tadream Production office and the studio are in one building in Berlin. With the TDI activities, they need more room for the office, and thus the studio has to move to another place. > > They are now on the TDI Music label and they are considering releasing > > music by other artists... any hints of who? > > Johannes Schmoelling for one. Giving rise to the rumour that JS is to > rejoin TD for a new collaboration. If you ask me though, that's a big load > of bollocks. Ooh, stop that rumour! TDI will probably re-release some of Johannes Schmoelling's music on their label, perhaps with some previously unreleased tracks, but NO ONE has ever talked about Johannes re-joining the band. Hope this helped to return the discussion to the serious information and to stop at least some of the speculations. Or, as Edgar would probably say: 'Focus the facts...' ;-) Peter Stoeferle 'Dream Collector' editor ------------------------------------------- 'Dream Collector' information/subscription: Peter Stoeferle Fax: +49 / 821 / 155 118 eMail: peter.stoeferle@t... ------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12897 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' DAVENTURA Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB 12911 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 4 KB 12918 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Plumer, Scott Tue 4/14/1998 2 KB 12920 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Jens Peschke Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12921 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Sean Montgomery Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12922 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Plumer, Scott Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12925 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12937 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Tdune Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12939 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Brian E. Kirby Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 11:38 am Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Thanks Peter, how can I subscribe to this Dream Collector? Just wondering again....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 12:55 pm Subject: The Pink Years ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Sharp on the heels of getting EF's Ages last week, I succumbed to the temptation of buying The Pink Years this weekend. Don't ask why - the money was burning a hole in my pocket. Clearly, I knew what I was getting - I have (or had) all five albums which have extracts on this compilation - Green Desert currently eludes my collection by choice, having swapped it some time ago. For those not familair with this fairly new (yet uncannily familiar) CD, it features 8 tracks : 1 from Elecronic Meditation, 1 from Alpha Centauri, 1 from Zeit, 2 from Atem and 3 from Green Desert. Two tracks are excerpts from their respective full-length equivalents, and the others are presented in all their short-lived glory. All tracks are in their 'original' form - that is, they are tangentized and are not the same as appear on Dream Roots disk 1. My biggest gripe over this album is the fact that it only runs 50 minutes. Unless their planning a small vinyl release, I can see no reason for not including another 20 minutes of music. This seems particularly strange given that, as I said above, two tracks are excerpts. Other than the over-use of GD tracks, I'd say those chosen work quite well, and it's partially refreshing to see a compilation that doesn't have Wahn on it. The liner notes, apparently written by Edgar (although he refers to TD in the third-person rather than first-person) are interesting, and different from the norm. I guess The Blue Years will find its way into my collection shortly, despite already being aware that it will be short and offer nothing new (except the liner notes, I assume). NP : Ether - is this really kicking up a fuss? - I can't see it myself, I was listening to stuff like this twenty years ago! Oh well. ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12905 Re: The Pink Years TWeibre361 Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12949 Re: The Pink Years Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12912 Re: The Pink Years Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12938 Re: The Pink Years Tdune Wed 4/15/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 12:16 pm Subject: Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > > > WHERE CAN ONE FIND THESE???? > > ARE THEY REGULAR RELEASES?? > > http://www.eurock.com And, for those of us without web access... ? C.B. Vincent Goudreault autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957 online since early 1993, TD fan since 1977 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 11:33 am Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Stephen Yensen ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ----------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- >Really-From: 'Steven Feldman, Splittin' Hairs Agin' > >Hi, > I just received copies of Redshift's ETHER and the Champagne Lake >Records sampler, IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE? the other day (Thanks Ash!) >and noticed that the excerpt of ETHER on the sampler is listed as being >a track that was slated for inclusion on an upcoming release -- and yet, >here's some data that seems to contradict this: > > o From the Champagne Lake Records sampler, IS HERE ANYBODY OUT THERE?: > 'Ether' (excerpt), by Redshift 7:32 > Live at Jodrell Bank Dec '96 > > o From the second Redshift album, ETHER: > 'Ether' [the title track] 27:29 > Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96 > > So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is >listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed >before? > > -- Steven Feldman Slap my wrists if I'm wrong or insultin' yer intelligence, but couldn't it be taken to mean 7th December 1996 in true Brit style? Steve. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'You don't frighten me, I've got clean underwear on' - Bluebottle. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12923 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:20 pm Subject: RE:The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Steven, Steven.... To us... 7.12.96 is 7th December 1996. It's you Yanks that have got it all wrong! :-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:29 pm Subject: RE: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > Really-From: feldon@p... > Well, I definately know where Lawry got his sources for > Tangram and Force Majeure... These are the Tangentized > versions from the Tangents boxed set if my ears do not deceive > me. They are excellent work... > Morgan > feldon@p... Well spotted Morgan... do you want a prize or somthing? :-) Anyway... as I'm not thrilled by my Stuntman one, I may have to Tangentize it as in the Beyond The Storm version. Am I the only person here that _actually prefers_ some of the Tangents stuff to the original? Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:14 pm Subject: RE: What's On? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >>> They are now on the TDI Music label and they are considering releasing >>> music by other artists... any hints of who? >> Johannes Schmoelling for one. Giving rise to the rumour that JS is to >> rejoin TD for a new collaboration. If you ask me though, that's a big load >> of bollocks. >WHAAAAAT???? Where did you hear THAT one, Lawry? TDI are due to release Schmoellings 'Zoo Of Tranquility'. That's the bit I don't dispute. Other people (I think it must have been in the TD guestbook) were discussing this as a sign of JS's possible return to TD. As I said before though...I think that's a big load of bollocks. Look's like I inadvertenly put the cat amongst the pigeons! > Gabe Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:56 pm Subject: RE: I thought you might be interested ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Would you like to earn an extra $700 a week... $2,800 a month just by No. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 2:17 pm Subject: Re: The Pink Years ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-04-14 08:03:52 EDT, you write: << Sharp on the heels of getting EF's Ages last week, I succumbed to the temptation of buying The Pink Years this weekend. Don't ask why - the money was burning a hole in my pocket. >> hehe...i did the same thing...good thing was, tower had/has it on sale for $ 6.99... tom w np: lou reed in montreal 89 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12949 Re: The Pink Years Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 3:23 pm Subject: Re: New vs. Old ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >Really-From: Vicky Rudd > >I don't believe the new music is any better or worse than the old music, IMVHO, of >course. After all, it was the new music that attracted me to TD in the first place. I find it rather paradoxical to say it, but on the basis of comparing with the music/artists of its times, TD in the 90s may be even more outstanding than TD in the 70s. Of course, I still prefer TD in the 70s, well, the early 80s :) Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 2:34 pm Subject: Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vincent Goudreault > > > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > > > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > > > > > WHERE CAN ONE FIND THESE???? > > > ARE THEY REGULAR RELEASES?? > > > > http://www.eurock.com > > And, for those of us without web access... ? Give Archie Patterson, a.k.a. Eurock, a ring (or fax) at: 503-281-0247 Mailing address: P.O.B. 13718 Portland, Oregon 97213 USA E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 2:39 pm Subject: Re: RE:The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > Steven, Steven.... > > To us... 7.12.96 is 7th December 1996. > > It's you Yanks that have got it all wrong! :-) Yo-yo: What day is it, today? Ma: The 14th April. (Realizing how cumbersome it is to say it that way, Ma resolves to pronounce it simply 'April 14' from now on.) :-) ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 3:48 pm Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: 'Steven Feldman, Splittin' Hairs Agin' > Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96 > > So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is >listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed >before? It's been played, recorded, produced etc etc in Europe and these are European dates. first day, then month and then year (from small to big, makes sense to me :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12980 Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampl Michael Fox Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 3:49 pm Subject: Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: Vincent Goudreault > > > > > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > > > > > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > > > > > > > WHERE CAN ONE FIND THESE???? > > > > ARE THEY REGULAR RELEASES?? > > > > > > http://www.eurock.com > > > > And, for those of us without web access... ? > > Give Archie Patterson, a.k.a. Eurock, a ring (or fax) at: 503-281-0247 > Mailing address: P.O.B. 13718 Portland, Oregon 97213 USA > > E-Man Is there an e-mail address? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 2:49 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' Thanks for posting, Peter :-) > Old rarities > - Soundmill navigator - Live at the Philharmonics (Berlin concert, 1976) > - The Hollywood years Vol. I (unreleased soundtracks) > - The Hollywood years Vol. II I got a woody over these! > - Quinoa (extended Fan Club release, 1990) Thought so... > - Live Dream Encores (encore music from various concerts) > - Sohoman - Live in Sydney (1983) [should be read: 1982] Crying tears of joy over the ones above... > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) > - Twilight folder (rare unreleased material 1983-1997) These two will be undoubtedly be priceless, even if there may be a few dogs in the bunch... > New material/compilations > - Ambient monkeys (pre-concert ambient background music, 1997) > - Time Square - Dream Mixes II (1997) > - Transsiberia (motion picture soundtrack, 1997) > - Atlantic walls (compilation I, 1988-1991) > - Atlantic bridges (compilation II, 1988-1991) > - Star trooper - The classical edge of Tangerine Dream (Mozart, Bach, Sibelius ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now THAT'S what I call a surprise! > - Lions share (new studio album, 1998). :-) > included in this 25-CD-list but scheduled for the first 36-CD-bulk is the > previously unavailable material for the soundtrack 'Forbidden' (German original: ^^^^^^^^^^^ Schmoelling-era. 'Nuff said. ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 4:21 pm Subject: Re: The Pink Years ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Aha, the danger of the missing word : >Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 [snip] >All tracks are in their 'original' form - that is, they are >tangentized and are not the same as appear on Dream Roots disk 1. Yes, they are NOT (that is NOT) tangentized, and therefore are NOT (that is NOT) the same as on Dream Roots disk 1. Sorry for any confusion caused by my bad typing. [another snip] >Unless their planning a small vinyl release, Yes, this should be 'they're' (that is THEY ARE) and not 'their'. Sorry for any confusion caused by my lack of basic English grammar. ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 3:17 pm Subject: Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vincent Goudreault > > > > > http://www.eurock.com > > > > > > And, for those of us without web access... ? > > > > Give Archie Patterson, a.k.a. Eurock, a ring (or fax) at: 503-281-0247 > > Mailing address: P.O.B. 13718 Portland, Oregon 97213 USA > > > > Is there an e-mail address? Yes...sorry about that: apatters@t... E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 4:58 pm Subject: Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >> > > WHERE CAN ONE FIND THESE???? >> > > ARE THEY REGULAR RELEASES?? >> > >> > http://www.eurock.com >> >> And, for those of us without web access... ? > >Give Archie Patterson, a.k.a. Eurock, a ring (or fax) at: 503-281-0247 >Mailing address: P.O.B. 13718 Portland, Oregon 97213 USA Oh, and while you're at it, you can order my 2CD package as well from him. :-) Just a thought. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:02 pm Subject: Re: What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Vincent Goudreault > >> > > http://www.eurock.com > >Is there an e-mail address? Yep, it's apatters@t... Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... (now, don't you forget to order my 2CD package from him! :-)) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 4:57 pm Subject: REDSHIFT Albums ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' Hi, All the dialog about the REDSHIFT album got me interested enough to go looking. CD-NOW has it listed at $39.99 (They also list three other albums by other artists with the same name). Now, somebody tell me....is that a normal price? Is it a multi-CD set, is CD-NOW out of line, or is it just bloody expensive? Thanks. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12919 Re: REDSHIFT Albums Jens Peschke Tue 4/14/1998 3 KB 12941 Re: REDSHIFT Albums Dan J. Schulte Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:09 pm Subject: RE: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 14:29 199804.14 +0100, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >Am I the only person here that _actually prefers_ some of the >Tangents stuff to the original? No. I happen to like the Tangentized _No_Man's_Land_. Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:22 pm Subject: RE: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) OK, everyone, chant with me: Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror. . Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:28 pm Subject: Re: REDSHIFT Albums ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'John M. Poer' >All the dialog about the REDSHIFT album got me interested enough to go >looking. > >CD-NOW has it listed at $39.99 (They also list three other albums by other >artists with the same name). Wot ? That´s bloody expensive. http://www.eurock.com offers both single CD albums (Redshift: Redshift & Redshift: Ether) for $18 each. I got my Ether copy for about $16 (30 Guilders) at the last Alfa Centauri festival, which is quite cheap if you´re living in Europe. ;-) FYI: Marcel Engels (aka FSP) set is offered for $22, don´t miss it ! J.P. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:32 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > >> > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) > OK, everyone, chant with me: Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, >Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror. . Is the missing stuff *that* good ? Really love the Sorcerer OST but never saw the movie. Someone (was that you ?) mentioned 45 minutes of unreleased material. Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:34 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery Thanks for being so open Peter, by making this information available to everyone on the list. It seems that we will all be erecting an additional shelf this year to hold the forthcoming deluge of shiny aluminum disks emmenating from Berlin. As for what's reputedly on the way (did you notice that 'The Keep' isn't one of the 25 listed?)... Past experience leads me to believe that the 'Private Music' albums will indeed have bonus tracks. Especially since they announce that the album artwork may be 'slightly changed'. But perhaps these bonus tracks will also appear on the compilation disks. > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) > - Twilight folder (rare unreleased material 1983-1997) These items particularly intrigue me. Does this mean totally unreleased (as in Dream Roots Disk 5) or just *rare* (like Ultima Thule)? Well, either way, I'm not complaining! > - Atlantic walls (compilation I, 1988-1991) > - Atlantic bridges (compilation II, 1988-1991) I presume that these are 'best of' collections for the Private Music Years? Well, all this speculation will be put to an end soon enough. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:07 pm Subject: RE: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >>> > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) >> OK, everyone, chant with me: Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, >>Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror. . >Is the missing stuff *that* good ? Really love the Sorcerer OST but >never saw the movie. Someone (was that you ?) mentioned 45 minutes of unreleased >material. Well, everyone has to have their obsessions. Steven has the Keep LP, I have the missing 45 min. of Sorceror. Of course, I have proof: the back of the LP says htat they sent Friedkin a 90 minute tape. The LP is 45 minutes (roughly), leaving 45 minutes somewhere. The more I think about it, though, the more I think that the tracks on the ST may just be shortened versions of the originals. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 4:33 pm Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: Stephen Yensen > >Slap my wrists if I'm wrong or insultin' yer intelligence, but couldn't it be >taken to mean 7th December 1996 in true Brit style? > > Yer beat me to it, Steve! Shouldn't get serious flames, Steve (Feldman's) just being a typical Yank - viewing the world through star-striped glasses. Remember folks, if you want to produce something for world-wide consumption, make sure its recorded on or after the 13th of any month. That way, even the Yanks should be able to work the date out. ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:23 pm Subject: TD at the R&R Hall ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' No, sorry, they haven't been inducted yet. I dropped by there Saturday evening to take in the laser show they projected on the side of the building. Accompanying the show were dozens of brief snippets of songs. Right after an excerpt of Pink Floyd's 'Money' was a brief cut from 'Betrayal!' Scott E. Plumer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:18 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > > - Antique Dreams (rare unreleased material 1970-1982) > OK, everyone, chant with me: Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, > Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror, Sorceror. . > > Scott Come to think of it, every album, or line-up, at the very least, seems to have unreleased music from said session(s) 'tucked away.' Are 'Force Majuere,' 'Cloudburst Flight,' and 'Thru Metamorphic Rocks' all that really came out of the FORCE MAJUERE sessions? I hope not! Even if there's only another scant portion of music unreleased by that brief F/F/Kruger line-up, I want it. That would really be the icing on the cake for me. Otherwise, that album remains 'perfect' in its electronic/prog hybrid state. ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:38 pm Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > > Remember folks, if you want to produce something for world-wide consumption, > make sure its recorded on or after the 13th of any month. That way, even the > Yanks should be able to work the date out. Must you be so condescending toward Americans in your humor? By the way, 'Yank' is a *very* outdated term. If you're Scottish, then I'll refer to you as Scottish (or British), while I'm American, or specifically Californian, whichever you prefer. ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 7:08 pm Subject: RE: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> Remember folks, if you want to produce something for world-wide >consumption, >> make sure its recorded on or after the 13th of any month. That way, even >the >> Yanks should be able to work the date out. >Must you be so condescending toward Americans in your humor? By the way, >'Yank' is a *very* outdated term. If you're Scottish, then I'll refer to >you as Scottish (or British), while I'm American, or specifically >Californian, whichever you prefer. Gees, Eli, must be your time of the month! I don't care if the Brits make fun of us, or call us Yanks. If we really wanted to get their collective goat, there are plenty of opportunities. Let's not start an international flame war, shall we? Scott > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:28 pm Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > >Must you be so condescending toward Americans in your humor? By > the way, > >'Yank' is a *very* outdated term. If you're Scottish, then I'll > refer to > >you as Scottish (or British), while I'm American, or > specifically > >Californian, whichever you prefer. > > Gees, Eli, must be your time of the month! I don't care if the > Brits make fun of us, or call us Yanks. If we really wanted to get their > collective goat, there are plenty of opportunities. Let's not start an > international flame war, shall we? > > Scott But...how do you know I *wasn't* joking around...as usual? ;-) ;-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 2:24 pm Subject: Re: YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 11:38 PM 4/10/98 -0500, Andreas 'yeah, it's my harp--so what'? wrote: >BTW, don't you think it is about time you returned all the original LPs and >CDs of 'L'Affair Walraff?' I know we had our differences, but you can keep >one of each. The rest are overdue. And 'The Keep' was mine, lest you, >conveniently, forget it. Sheeesh...I sure could use Steven's $500 right now. Andreas lovey, I moved all those icky old boxes of 'The Keep' some time ago. I thought you had some. I have a question--what should I do with those big cases marked 'TD-Stage Left', 'TD-Stage Right', and 'TD-Centre'? They are very heavy and do take up SO much room! The only thing I have of ''L'Affair Walraff' are two boxes marked 'master tape'. I assume they are worthless as your pledges of love. Michy From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 1:30 pm Subject: Re: The ETHER excerpt on the Champagne Lake Sampler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 09:07 PM 4/13/98 EDT, you wrote: > o From the second Redshift album, ETHER: > 'Ether' [the title track] 27:29 > Recorded live at the Jodrell Bank Planetarium 7.12.96 > > So, December 1996 is listed on the sampler, while July 12, 1996 is >listed on Redshift's second album (ETHER). Has this been discussed >before? Erm....might flip those numbers around, old boy, and you'll find it to be Dec. 7, 1996. Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 9:29 pm Subject: Re: Pretenders to the Throne?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Flemming Larsen [8 step sequencer Unit of the modular Moog] >Uhm, that depends on what modules you have in you Moog Modular. >The Moog Modular can easily produce 2 (or more) 8 step sequences. >All you need is two analog sequencer modules, and a Moog system >capable of playing polyphonic, which I think it was from the beginning. You´re right, Flemming. Dunno how many units TD were using, but Mark Shreeve´s Modular Moog has only a single 8 step unit, at least the one I studied after the ARC gig. ;-) If you´re interested to look at pictures of his MM system (and his other gear), please ask off-list, this list should be anorak free zone. ;-) Kind Regards ->J<- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Changing Headers: Is It That Much to Ask? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'A Blast from Molasar's Gauntlet' Folks, Admittedly, posting three different messages re Redshift as I did was a tad excessive, but I wanted to separate the messages because of their contents. Little did I realize what would happen. I just slogged through six or seven replies to the 'What the Two Redshift Albums Sound Like' thread that never once addressed what either of these albums sound like!!! :( :( Jesus H. Christ, if you must prattle on inanely, please at least change the header so that we can all know that it's a flame and deal with it accordingly. When I make a blatant flame, I tend to identify it as such, often putting the word 'flame' in the header, even. Basically, I consider flames to be optional reading--and mostly expendable. Finding out what Redshift is like is an important thing to those who might be thinking about spending the almost $5.00 it would require to obtain them. Let's please try to make headers match their contents, shall we? Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: , and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Redshift, Nightcrawlers, R. Carty, Ozrics, Serrie +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12962 Re: Changing Headers: Is It That Much to Ask? PENFOLD Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Yes's 'Shoot High Aim Low' and TD's 'Twilight Brigade' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman I've mentioned this before, but since we've got Yes fans on this list, now, I'll do so again: am I the only one who thinks that the Yes song, 'Shoot High, Aim Low' (from their BIG GENERATOR album) has a hook that presages the hook in Tangerine Dream's song, 'Twilight Brigrade' (from their TURN OF THE TIDES album)? I love both songs, and so the similarity between the hooks is not a source of displeasure, for me. DISCLAIMER: I am generally not a Yes fan. -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12940 Re: Yes's 'Shoot High Aim Low' and TD's 'Twilight Jim Moore Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12942 Re: Yes's 'Shoot High Aim Low' and TD's 'Twilight Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Old TD vs. New TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:27:52 -0400 >Subject: Re: New vs. Old >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Vicky Rudd > >I've noticed that everyone here has been a fan of TD for many years and >is thusly put off by any of the new music. [. . .] Not me. I greatly like TD from all periods except perhaps 'The Pink Years,' which I tolerate more than actually like (sorta like how I treat Klaus Schulze, hee hee). >I don't believe the new music is any better or worse than the old music, >IMVHO [. . .] Well . . . yes and no. In many ways, TD's most recent albums feature the most complex music the 'group' has ever produced. > My favorite CD would have to be ToB. And I started with Legend, which >would be my next favorite. [. . .] Ouch. Those are two of Lars Jones's faves . . . and two of my least fave. I find the cumulative effect of Hornby's guitar on TYRANNY OF BEAUTY to be overwhelming--and not in a good way. As for LEGEND, I admit that this album features some of the best production values to grace a TD album this side of THE DREAM MIXES and GOBLINS' CLUB, but I find the compositions uniformly lacking. (I am not a fan of Classical music.) Well, I've got my 'Desert Train,' and Lars has . . . LEGEND. ;) >[. . .] My extremely small [. . .] collection consists of Canyon >Dreams, 220 Volt Live, Rockoon, Goblin's Club, Turn of the Tides, >Private Music, Dream Mixes 2, and the 2 I mentioned above. Through a >friend of mine, I have been exposed to some of the older stuff as well, >like Rubycon and Phaedra. Try FORCE MAJEURE, TANGRAM, LOGOS, and LE PARC. They are all very different and all high points of a sort. (A warning, though: I seem to be in the minority in prefering LE PARC and the HEARTBREAKERS soundtrack [the two albums are similar to each other] to the LEGEND soundtrack.) >[. . .] I do realize that perception is 99% of reality. [. . .] This statement is a dangerous generality and relatively meaningless if one plays devil's advocate. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, it does make a sound. 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(tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:29 am Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tdune In a message dated 98-04-14 07:09:38 EDT, you write: << Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Hi tadreamers, if there is no news, it's the time to create news... According to this motto, some of the discussions of the last weeks have turned into a strange direction. Most of the items which have caused the so-called 'speculations on the forthcoming 25 TD albums' discussion on this list could be read in 'Dream Collector' two months ago, so actually there should be no reason for 'speculations' or 'rumour'... >> Well, some people on this list (including me) do not subscribe to 'Dream Collector' so it is news to us!! Marcelo G. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:32 am Subject: Re: The Pink Years ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tdune In a message dated 98-04-14 08:03:52 EDT, you write: << short-lived glory. All tracks are in their 'original' form - that is, they are tangentized and are not the same as appear on Dream Roots disk 1. >> If they are tangenized, how can they be in their 'original' form? Marcelo G. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 10:17 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' > On TDI's first promo sheet, the following CDs have been announced: > > Back catalogue > - Optical Race (1988) > - Lily on the beach (1989) > - Dream Mixes Vol. I (2-CD-version by TDI, 1995) > - Melrose (1990) > - Rockoon (1991) > - 220 Volt live (1992) > - Turn of the tides (1993) > - Tyranny of beauty (1994) > - Oasis (1997) > - Tournado - Live in Europe (1997) Alright, I'm opening myself up for some abuse for this (in all probability), but I'm sure as hell hoping that there will be the rumored 'missing tracks' from Melrose that supposedly were cut to get the running time under an hour. -B. Kirby From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:34 am Subject: RE: Yes's 'Shoot High Aim Low' and TD's 'Twilight Brigade' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > I've mentioned this before, but since we've got Yes fans on this >list, now, I'll do so again: am I the only one who thinks that the Yes >song, 'Shoot High, Aim Low' (from their BIG GENERATOR album) has a hook >that presages the hook in Tangerine Dream's song, 'Twilight Brigrade' >(from their TURN OF THE TIDES album)? Yes. 'If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes...' -- Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) Blade Runner, 1982 ----------------------------------------------------- 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www.jimbo.vivid.net From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:59 am Subject: Re: REDSHIFT Albums ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > > FYI: Marcel Engels (aka FSP) set is offered for $22, don´t miss it ! > > J.P. Sheesh, you brits sure promote each other's work. ;-) Hey, don't forget Decapolis, from the red, white & blue jazzmaster flash! Riley's got some great stuff there. Don't let that over-done berlin school stuff clog your brain so you forget about the emusic with a jazz twist! I listened to Riley's CD when I was in PS visitng Eli & if you like Air Sculpture, yer gonna love Decapolis, especially since Riley's CD is actual music...not just a droning FX sweep with a barely noticable sequence in the background. Dano ;-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:01 am Subject: Re: Yes's 'Shoot High Aim Low' and TD's 'Twilight Brigade' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > > > > > I've mentioned this before, but since we've got Yes fans on this > >list, now, I'll do so again: am I the only one who thinks that the Yes > >song, 'Shoot High, Aim Low' (from their BIG GENERATOR album) has a hook > >that presages the hook in Tangerine Dream's song, 'Twilight Brigrade' > >(from their TURN OF THE TIDES album)? > > Yes. Hahahaha!!!!! I have to agree with Jimbo, Steve, I think you're in the minority! I know 'Shoot High, Aim Low' backwards & forwards and I really hear no similarities shared by the two tunes. Just my $0.01999999 cents... ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:43 am Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' > > > On TDI's first promo sheet, the following CDs have been announced: > > > > Back catalogue > > - Optical Race (1988) > > - Lily on the beach (1989) > > - Dream Mixes Vol. I (2-CD-version by TDI, 1995) > > - Melrose (1990) > > - Rockoon (1991) > > - 220 Volt live (1992) > > - Turn of the tides (1993) > > - Tyranny of beauty (1994) > > - Oasis (1997) > > - Tournado - Live in Europe (1997) > > Alright, I'm opening myself up for some abuse for this (in all > probability), but I'm sure as hell hoping that there will be the > rumored 'missing tracks' from Melrose that supposedly were cut to get > the running time under an hour. > > -B. Kirby I'm sure the unreleased stuff was the stuff that didn't actually eat corn. Let's hope there are no more 'Turning of the Wheels' out there...sheeeowwweee. Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12944 What's in the Box? Pain. Sean Montgomery Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 13034 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' feldon@p... Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13169 Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' Brian E. Kirby Sun 4/19/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:43 am Subject: What's in the Box? Pain. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I'm sure the unreleased stuff was the stuff that didn't actually eat > corn. Let's hope there are no more 'Turning of the Wheels' out > there...sheeeowwweee. Oh, you can be sure that there are plenty of those in the TD vaults! Yet, I remain...cautiously optimistic. It could well be that there were pieces cut from albums over the years because they just didn't fit in with the other songs. Heh heh...what if they did an all-analogue Rubycon sequel in 1988 and shelved it because it would have seemed out of place on 'Optical Race'? SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:08 am Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > > I'm sure the unreleased stuff was the stuff that didn't actually eat > corn. Let's hope there are no more 'Turning of the Wheels' out > there...sheeeowwweee. > > Dano I'm hoping/praying for more knockoffs a la 'Turning,' 'Twin Soul Tribe,' 'Gecko'....hehe. ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:09 am Subject: Re: What's in the Box? Pain. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > I remain...cautiously optimistic. It could well be that there were pieces > cut from albums over the years because they just didn't fit in with the > other songs. Heh heh...what if they did an all-analogue Rubycon sequel in > 1988 and shelved it because it would have seemed out of place on 'Optical > Race'? And I'll bet it was Ralf who perpetrated it!!!!!! ::E:: From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:26 am Subject: Tangerine Ambience II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' I've just finished listening to Tangerine Ambience II, courtesy of Dan, and all I can say is....hot damn!!!!!! This is better than Volume I...'Tangram Set 1' by Joseph (that's what it says, haha!), 'Tangram Set 2' by Aquatic Ghost, and two tracks by returning contributors: 'Logos, Part 1' by Supersonic, and Rey's rendition of 'Cloudburst Flight' make this disc a winner!!!! Also on this CD are 'Rubycon, Part1' & 'Part 2,' both by TD Experience (maybe this is Riley, haha!), 'Stratosfear' (another winner) by Token Angle, 'Phaedra' (again!) by Mikael Bondee, and 'White Eagle' by Kenton Files. This disc is a must-have! ::E:: Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12957 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Lawry Simm Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12961 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Kees Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12964 Re: Tangerine Ambience II feldon@p... Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12966 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Sean Montgomery Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 13004 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Flemming Larsen Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13054 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Lawry Simm Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13516 Re: Tangerine Ambience II K.E Sun 5/3/1998 3 KB 13958 Tangerine Ambience II Lawry Simm Tue 5/26/1998 3 KB 32827 Tangerine Ambience II Kent Eskildsen Tue 3/19/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:59 am Subject: Re: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Stephen Yensen I've just received the Stuntman, Force Majeure and Tangram midi files from Lawry. At work yesterday, unfortunately, so I couldn't listen to them until last night... In a word, stunning! On the strength of Stuntman, I'm going to search for the album, as I've never heard this one. Don't tell me, it's unavailable. Damn. Get the midi files now. Recommended. Lawry, let's have some more! Please!!! Steve. NP: Guess! To my employers, if they're eavesdropping on this (I doubt it - they're probably still in bed): Sorry, but I've installed the NT4 MIDI drivers on my work PC. Work will never be the same again :-)) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12958 Re: Force Majeure Midi File Lawry Simm Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 13031 Re: Force Majeure Midi File feldon@p... Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13067 Re: Force Majeure Midi File AOutland Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 8:35 am Subject: Re: The Pink Years ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: TWeibre361 > >hehe...i did the same thing...good thing was, tower had/has it on sale for $ >6.99... > >tom w $6.99? I paid £9.99 for it - which is how much? $16? Sheesh! ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 9:17 am Subject: white eagle cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Meshy I got out my old WE cd t'nite, and noticed it was dropping out all over the place (kinda like pausing it for a half sec. or less and then unpausing it-) this is the first disc I've noticed this with. It is the old virgin cd (I bought this cd in 89), anyone else notice this with old td cd's? I know my WE, and logos has pinholes (hold up one of these data side facing you to a bright light and you'll see what I mean.), so this may be the problem. my 'main' cd player is over 10 years old so it may not have good error correction either. I'll check it out on another player also. later on rr decapolis (goldtri cd's at:www.ratfink.demon.co.uk/stonker ) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12951 Re: white eagle cd TangerineC Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 13003 Re: white eagle cd Flemming Larsen Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13032 Re: The Pink Years CD feldon@p... Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13050 Re: white eagle cd Antonio Nunes Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13060 Re: white eagle cd DAVENTURA Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13109 Re: white eagle cd AOutland Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13119 Re: white eagle cd Michael Fox Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 9:34 am Subject: Re: white eagle cd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC I've heard of this problem, but never experienced it. I've looked at my first Cd I bought in 1987 and not one pinhole. And I played the hell out this disc! It plays just as well as the first day I bought it. Maybe the problem you guys are experiencing is the cd players themselves. I also take very good care of my Cd's. I get kind of anal when it comes to the care of them. Maybe this is why none of them have pinholes either. I dont know. What do you guys think? Tom In a message dated 98-04-15 04:34:16 EDT, you write: << I know my WE, and logos has pinholes (hold up one of these data side facing you to a bright light and you'll see what I mean.), so this may be the problem. >> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Incest Website at www.trueincest.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jill@c... (Dr. Incest) Hi, Do you know there's and INCEST SITE at http://www.family-orgy.com ? We have all in REAL INCEST, home-made videos and pics, Illustrated REAL incest cases, stories, also INCEST chatboard, where you can meet people in to incest and Incest Videoconferencing How do you know they are a real family?, go to: http://www.family-orgy.com/picpost/sisters1.jpg http://www.family-orgy.com/picpost/aunt_nieces1.jpg And LOOK THEY FACES!! You will not regret!! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12954 Re: Incest Website at www.trueincest.com Plumer, Scott Wed 4/15/1998 2 KB 12963 What kind of Orgy is it, exactly? Sean Montgomery Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12968 Re: Incest Website at www.trueincest.com TangerineC Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:14 pm Subject: RE: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > - Dream Mixes Vol. I (2-CD-version by TDI, 1995) > > - Turn of the tides (1993) > > - Tyranny of beauty (1994) > > - Oasis (1997) > > - Tournado - Live in Europe (1997) > Hasn't TDI already released these? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:24 pm Subject: RE: Incest Website at www.trueincest.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Do you know there's and INCEST SITE at http://www.family-orgy.com ? Um, uh, no I didn't. Aw heck, I'm not touching this one with a 20 ft. pole. You ever wonder if the police set up sites like these and then track down who looks at them? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:38 pm Subject: Trumpet Blowing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > Really-From: 'Dan J. Schulte' > >>> FYI: Marcel Engels (aka FSP) set is offered for $22, don4t miss it ! >>> >>> J.P. > > Sheesh, you brits sure promote each other's work. ;-) Hey, don't forget Well, hurry up and get your CD out so we can all sit around blowing your trumpet too! (oo-errr) :-) Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:20 pm Subject: Eurock / Ether / Marcel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Marcel said.... > Oh, and while you're at it, you can order my 2CD package as well > from him. :-) > Just a thought. and... > (now, don't you forget to order my 2CD package from him! :-)) Now, okay. He might be a bit biased, but I'm not. I bought both of these CD's from Marcel and they were such a great bargain. Excellent sound quality and composition. Anyway.. they are called 'Impulse' and 'Substance' and go under the artist name of Free System Projekt (FSP) in case you were wondering. Regards Lawry (Marcel... should I just e-mail you the advertising invoice? :-) ) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:49 pm Subject: RE: Tangerine Ambience II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' E-Man said... > I've just finished listening to Tangerine Ambience II, courtesy of Dan, and > all I can say is....hot damn!!!!!! I've never seen either of the TA CD's over in the UK, but I've been dying to buy them. Does anyone know whether they made it here, and if so, where I can get them from? Failing that, any european suppliers? I'm fed up being stiffed for import duty from the US for CD's, so I'd rather not have to buy them from there. TIA, Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12961 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Kees Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:59 pm Subject: RE: Force Majeure Midi File ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > On the strength of Stuntman, I'm going to search for the album, as I've never > heard this one. Don't tell me, it's unavailable. Damn. In case you didn't know... it's a 1979 Edgar Froese solo album... released by Virgin (at least in the UK). 4 of the 6 tracks appear on the EF double album, Beyond The Storm , 1995 also by Virgin, and IMHO is a must have double album. Warning: It has been Tangentized. The albums worth it for the unreleased tracks alone though. > Lawry, let's have some more! Please!!! Well, I still have about half a dozen that I've started... but they may take a while to finish as I have a new one I want to do, which will take some considerable time I'm sure. Maybe I'll just box off the 2 that are almost finished first... but I'm an impatient bugger. Cheers, Lawry TD Midi File sequencer - available for weddings, bar mitzvahs, funerals, children's parties..... :-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:31 pm Subject: Old TD vs. New TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > Try FORCE MAJEURE, TANGRAM, LOGOS, and LE PARC. They are all very > different and all high points of a sort. (A warning, though: I seem to > be in the minority in prefering LE PARC and the HEARTBREAKERS soundtrack > [the two albums are similar to each other] to the LEGEND soundtrack.) A small minority that also includes me... great choice of albums. Lawry PS - Vicky.. two of the midi files I sent you are Tangram and Force Majeure, so should give you a very basic idea of what to expect... though, of course, the real thing is far superior. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:34 am Subject: My CD, 'Visitation', Released... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' Greetings, all! Finally, after many months of scrambling to collect enough money to press it, my CD 'Visitation' is for sale. The CD contains six tracks, filling up over 50 minutes of music. The complete track listing is available at http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/cd.html. This is an exciting adventure for me, as it's my first CD. All of the songs are originals, influenced by such musicians as Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Tangerine Dream, and The Orb. Many people think my music is similar to that of Pete Namlook. If you would be interested in obtaining a copy of this CD, please contact me. I would be happy to get a copy right out to you. The CD costs $12, plus shipping costs, which are $2 for US/Canada, $3 for UK/Europe/Asia/Africa, and $4 Pacific Rim. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, -- Brian Frick frickblj@w... http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:06 pm Subject: RE: Tangerine Ambience II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Kees At 14:49 15-04-98 +0100, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >E-Man said... >> I've just finished listening to Tangerine Ambience II, courtesy of Dan, >and >> all I can say is....hot damn!!!!!! > >I've never seen either of the TA CD's over in the UK, but I've been dying to >buy them. Does anyone know whether they made it here, and if so, where >I can get them from? Failing that, any european suppliers? I'm fed up >being stiffed for import duty from the US for CD's, so I'd rather not have >to >buy them from there. > >TIA, >Lawry Check out: http://mcs.nl/groove/catalog.html Kees From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:30 pm Subject: Re: Changing Headers: Is It That Much to Ask? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 18:34 199804.14 EDT, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: 'A Blast from Molasar's Gauntlet' cute send them to Flamewar To subscribe to flamewar@g... send mail to autoshare@g... with 'sub flamewar' in the body of the mail. it's currently quiet @ the moment, just a buncha friends playfully toasting each other. ob TD Continents: Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America This is the world Past time Present time Future time Peace, this is peace To be understood To ask To answer To talk To contemplate To guess not knowing Transfer To associate with friends To exchange opinions Borderlessness Reasonable living Talk Conversation Continents: Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, America This is the world translated from the Russian by Irina Lazakova. excerpt courtesy of Alan V Michaels' out-of-print book; _The_Dream_Lives_On!:_The_Unofficial_Collector's_Guide_To_The_Music_Of _Tangerine_Dream_ Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:12 pm Subject: What kind of Orgy is it, exactly? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Do you know there's and INCEST SITE at http://www.family-orgy.com ? I wonder if it's an *electronic* orgy? SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:25 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Ambience II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:26 PM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > >I've just finished listening to Tangerine Ambience II, courtesy of Dan, and >all I can say is....hot damn!!!!!! Just wanted to wholeheartedly recommend that anyone who doesn't already have it, get Tangerine Ambience II. #1 it's 100% analog according to the cover. Their version of Logos is amazing. All the tracks are great, IMNSHO. This from a Tangerine Dream 'purist'... =) Morgan feldon@p... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12966 Re: Tangerine Ambience II Sean Montgomery Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:01 pm Subject: Re: Put an end to TD 'speculations' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda Peter Stoeferle wrote: > if there is no news, it's the time to create news... According to this motto, > some of the discussions of the last weeks have turned into a strange direction. > Most of the items which have caused the so-called 'speculations on the > forthcoming 25 TD albums' discussion on this list could be read in 'Dream > Collector' two months ago, so actually there should be no reason for > 'speculations' or 'rumour'... Peter, I subscribe to Dream Collector and I was looking for facts, not speculation... although opinions are always welcome here. You and others provided us with the following facts which were either not available for the last issue of DC or were not included for some reason: > Right now, the Tadream Production office and the studio are in one building in > Berlin. With the TDI activities, they need more room for the office, and thus > the studio has to move to another place. > TDI are due to release Schmoellings 'Zoo Of Tranquility'. That's the bit I > don't dispute. Other people (I think it must have been in the TD guestbook) > were discussing this as a sign of JS's possible return to TD. As I said > before though...I think that's a big load of bollocks. > Zlatko rejoined TD after a 2-3 year hiatus. Seriously, though, I think > he fits in better with the new TD direction than Linda ever did. Her > performance at the '96 London concert, was, IMO, a key factor in her > 'dismissal'. Would TDI (or Dream Collector) prefer that we ask them these questions directly, or can we just continue to use this mailing list as a resource for getting information and working out things without bugging the artists or their office staff? Besides, if TD was not so elusive about their music and their music-related news we wouldn't have to be in the dark. > Hope this helped to return the discussion to the serious information and to stop > at least some of the speculations. Or, as Edgar would probably say: 'Focus the > facts...' ;-) I appreciate the facts that were presented... but what do you consider serious information? I am very interested in who the current band members are, what new releases will be issued this year, etc. Just let us have our little discussions and you can stick to 'just the facts' in Dream Collector and we'll all be just fine. :-) Mark Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12970 TD elusive? Sean Montgomery Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 4:57 pm Subject: Re: Tangerine Ambience II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Their version of Logos is amazing. All the tracks are great, IMNSHO. My favourite song on TA2 remains Tangram Part 2, which is given a 'Dream Mixes' type treatment, but only insofar that it shortens it, and punches up the beats to levels that provoke drumming on your desktop or steering wheel. It remains relatively true to the original, and has a nice organic feel...whereas a couple of the other tracks are a bit jumpy, like TD's own 'Thief Yang and the Tangram Seal'. At the same time, Aquatic Ghost gives Tangram a contemporary sound. All in all, it's a good disk, but for the most part doesn't offer anything new. It'll just make you want to hear the originals. It would have been nice if the interpretations had been a bit more daring. This obviously would bring with it the risk of producing horrendous results...or of angering fans..but I think the potential rewards would be greater as well. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 5:08 pm Subject: A question about Luminous Visions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Gibbons, Conrad' Just wondering if anyone in the UK/Europe has purchased 'Luminous Visions' yet? If so where can one get it? Regards, Conrad From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 5:09 pm Subject: Re: Incest Website at www.trueincest.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC Gee! Is 'Incest Site' one of the TD albums slated on that 25 album release deal? This would give new meaning to the song 'Little Blond In The Park Of Attractions'. Tangerine Dream is getting racy in their old age! I pray that Edgar has nothing to do with this web site. Tom In a message dated 98-04-15 09:01:45 EDT, you write: << Hi, Do you know there's and INCEST SITE at http://www.family-orgy.com ? We have all in REAL INCEST, home-made videos and pics, Illustrated REAL incest cases, stories, also INCEST chatboard, where you can meet people in to incest and Incest Videoconferencing How do you know they are a real family?, go to: >> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman I just found the following two posts in the guestbook at the TDI website. Poor bastard, this Sutekh: he not only held the 1984 cassette release of THE KEEP in his hand once but *several times*, only to spend the rest of his life having to hear most of the rest of TD fandom say that he's wrong. (When you hold something in your hand *several* times, it is pretty fucking A well hard to convince yourself that you did otherwise, fer crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) -- Steven Feldman + + + + + + + From , April 15, 1998: From Sutekh at Mon, 13/Apr/98 13:27: THE KEEP! FINALLY! HURRAH! I saw the Keep in the theatre as a young boy and the music was the best I had heard in my life. It haunted me. My local music store carried the soundtrack on cassette (contrary to what many people say, this was released on cassette) but when I went to purchase it it was gone! Years later I finally found a bootleg cd import of the soundtrack but the audio quality was virtually unlistenable on all tracks. And now my quest comes to an end with the re-release. Thank you, Tangerine Dream, from the bottom of my heart. From Sutekh at Mon, 13/Apr/98 13:50: (A follow up now that I've read the 'focus the facts' section.) Ah, sweet controversy. The elusive truth. How reliable is memory. When someone says 'this is absolutely true' they are right, but only in terms of what they have experienced in their own mind... The same week I saw The Keep in movie theatres I went to my local music store in Oklahoma City, OK, USA. There, in shiny shrink wrap, in the soundtrack section of the cassette section (this was way before cd's) sat one lonely copy of The Keep. I picked up that cassette about 100 times over the next month, wanting it despeartely but not having the money to buy it. Finally, my father said he'd get it for me, so we went to the store and... yep, you guessed it... it was GONE! Now, many many people have insisted that The Keep was NEVER released. But I held that little cassette in my hot little hands several times over a month. So, either soemthing is terribly wrong with my brain (perhaps a brain tumor, or schizophrenia), or, all of you 'experts' who have the 'facts' are (gasp) wrong. One more possible solution is that there was rampant back door cassete production in the 1980's from supposedly law abiding record companies, but I think that is highly unlikely. All I can say is that I didn't just see that cassette tape, I held it numerous times. You can spout 1000 pages of documented facts at me from the band members, the album producers, the record companies, the film companies or Jesus Christ himself, but it won't change the fact that I saw the cassette. Now, how's that for putting spice into these message boards. By the way, Tangerine Dream will go down in history as one of the greatest bands the earth has ever known. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12977 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Marcel Engels Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12978 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Vic Rek Wed 4/15/1998 3 KB 12995 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Dan J. Schulte Thu 4/16/1998 5 KB 12997 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13006 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Plumer, Scott Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13024 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Dan J. Schulte Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13049 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Michael Fox Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13055 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Lawry Simm Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB 13058 Re: An Eyewitness to the 1984 THE KEEP Cassette Sean Montgomery Thu 4/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 5:35 pm Subject: TD elusive? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Besides, if TD was not so elusive about their music and their > music-related news we wouldn't have to be in the dark. I don't find that they're particularly elusive. They keep us all informed via the website, and magazines such as Dream Collector. Obviously, they're hesitant to make news known until things are *official*... otherwise, you end up with situations such as the aborted U.S. tour and the long delay getting The Keep to market. I'd rather wait for something concrete than be teased with rumours. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 3:59 am Subject: Put This List's Archives on the Web! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Howdy, Groovy Guys 'n' Gals, It just occurred to me that if this list's archives were available on the web for anyone and everyone to read, all the folks who access the web but don't have a proper e-mail account (i.e. those with hotmail.com accounts) would be able to read the messages from our little list and reply. This is the predicament of many of the folks who post regularly to the guestbook on the TDI website. If everything that we see here was also available for reading on the web, things would really pick up. The list I used to run made all its postings available via ftp before the web existed, and quite a few people accessed the list this way rather than subscribing. Now that the web is here, folks can access the list via ftp, or via the web, or subscribe. Wouldn't it be nice if such could be done for our little list? Even better, there is a kick-ass search engine on the list I just mentioned: it can search the entirety of the list's archives by keyword! Now *that* is something we all could benefit from. Steven Feldman ^ ^ ^ SUBSCRIBED TO: Space Music, ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ________ ^ ^ 33 Brook St #3 ^ ^ ^ Tadream, CNI News, P.E.E.R. ^ ^ ^ __--- ---_ Brookline Mass ^ ^ ^ Perspectives, The MUFON UFO ^ ^ - _ \ 02146-6913 USA ^ ^ ^ Journal, the Nausicaa list, ^ ^ | /_/ \ | (617) 232-3876 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ and Nutrition News. ^ ^_- __/_// __ |/ BITNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ - (|/ '()` <()/ ^ INTERNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ \_ O .> | ^ HAYAO MIYAZAKI DISCUSSION GROUP: nausicaa@b... ^ /--_/ -__ -- / ^ <*> Address for subscribing: listserv@b... <*> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ --- ^ ^ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12972 Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web! Jens Peschke Wed 4/15/1998 4 KB 12976 Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web! David Datta Wed 4/15/1998 2 KB 12996 Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web! OIK Thu 4/16/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 6:36 pm Subject: Re: Put This List's Archives on the Web! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Steven Feldman [...] [The tadream list archives, www access] > Even better, there is a kick-ass search engine on the list I just >mentioned: it can search the entirety of the list's archives by keyword! >Now *that* is something we all could benefit from. Yummi ! Great idea, Steven. Just go for it ! :-D I´ve already talked with Vic Rek off-list about setting up such a www archive just a few days ago. The most important thing is that we need someone (or a group of people) who care about such an archive. I don´t have time left. NO. Anyone, anyone, Lawry Simm ? What I actually did was to reserve a 3 MB *free* web space on http://www.geocities.com and build up a quick and dirty 1st draft with no content so far. Choose 'File manager' on the geocities web site, the membername is 'tadreamlist', the password 'rocks' to upload or edit files. tadreamlist rocks, eh ? The crappy 1st draft is to be found at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3748/ The only important thing is to include a geocities link on each HTML page. if ASCII files are used (*.txt) there´s no need for any geocities advert. So Steven, now it´s your ball... ;-) Delete and/or edit the stuff. ;-) Kind Regards Jens